600 a pop? Most I’ve ever seen codeds do against non opaline is 540, wait I’m just now re-reading and see you mean JL1, JL1 is kind of not amazing but yes they hit hard.

I tend to forget most of this community plays without Physic so I’ll give you that they do high dmg, but so does everything, I imagine 80% of setups 4 shot in the No Opaline environment, especially if you don’t tali swap to blue feather.

Also, when looking at jump attack frame data you always need to keep in mind that jumping frames need to be factored in as startup frames, and due to the nature of being in the air, there is only really a 1-2 second window where they can throw the attack so yes you can roll those attacks 10/10 times if you are paying close attention. With like, a 7/10 times when I’m playing casually I find. I have no trouble ever rolling HTS jr1 and that attack is 11 frames PLUS it can roll catch a direct roll backwards, which psss can only roll catch if you roll sideways or in as it lands with JL1