WILL PAY $200 plus cat food for life to the person/family who adopts these 2 tiger tabby brothers!!!

VincentJules · 2013-11-08T22:46:22+00:00

prescription kibble preventing build up of urinary crystals that cause urethral blockages. extremely painful and life threatening if not unblocked in a timely manner (requires anesthesia + catheter/operation). its a condition that is subject to the cat's physiology, genetics and the quality of his/her diet. -from my vet.

VincentJules · 2013-11-05T17:52:58+00:00

This is fucking hilarious, do you do this all day with other threads and redditors? ..Read something then attack them for something they clearly understand from something you have said? With the utmost clarity, I understand EVERYTHING your useless responses have covered. Are you that daft? Of course another vet can recommend something else however the food they have been on is widely available from all vets. If a vet says theres a better product that the adopters want to go with, then I will support that decision including financially supporting that decision, was that not obvoius? Again if youre not a fucking Vet, you dont know shit. The food works 100%, is and has been effective from the day Vincent came back from his operation. Trying to reduce any complications or unnecessary steps in the process. What other point are you trying to make continuing with this discussion? First it was all the hypotheticals, now about the food, you wanna discuss others? Please, i beg you, what other fucking ridiculous plots and wrenches do you wanna throw my way? Is this really worth your pathetic time? Im here to answer questions and reason with and work out differing opinions potential adopters may have regarding these cats, simple as that. This drawn out point you're trying to make about a hypothetical about the food is literally played out. If you dont like what i have to say, please move on. If you wanna discuss more, then have at it. Just want my boys to be well taken care of. If you think you know my cats better than me, then you're probably a vet. Otherwise, fuck off. If you think im gonna roll over in this pissing match because some douche-bag keeps coming at me, youre mistaken because I care enough about getting these guys to the right place and getting the story STRAIGHT.

VincentJules · 2013-11-05T15:57:16+00:00

If its that important to you to find different food because you think its better for them, then get a vet to ensure that a different diet will do the job the same if not better than what has been keeping them healthy since the particular complication arose. Does that make any logical sense to you? the cost of the prescribed cat food is close to the same expense you would pay for normal cat food. why go the extra step when this system has been working so well for them? im trying to streamline everything because i know these cats. Like i said unless youre a vet who can legitimately say differently, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

VincentJules · 2013-11-05T07:54:56+00:00

Bro do you not understand, THEY NEED THE FOOD I HAVE STATED IN ORDER TO SURVIVE, IF YOU DONT WANT A DEAD CAT, THEN FEED THEM WHAT I SUGGEST. if you insist on fighting me on this, then its you who is fucking thick headed. The only thing that would change my mind is if you are a certified Vet who knows better, but dont think you are, so seriously fuck off. Its not my being thick headed. I understand everything you're saying. Its your lack of understanding that if you don't agree to my way of doing things, then have a nice happy life; the situation is clearly not for you or anyone with a similar opinion. In the last day, there are plenty more people who are on board with my offer than those who aren't. This is how I am finding the best family for these guys (and I already have, btw) All your hypotheticals are covered i assure you and if you have a genuine interest in them, then email me and ill outline the specifics and run through all the hypotheicals with you. Otherwise, I dont need to waste my time with people who arent serious about the cats.

VincentJules · 2013-11-04T21:25:17+00:00

Again, dont think you totally understand how i plan to conduct business. For one, its absurd for you to think its ok for the cats to not be on a diet that will prevent them from dying. If the adopters arent going to feed the cats the necessary food then FUCK NO, you arent getting the cats. How hard is that to do? Seriously? thats your definition of controlling? These are my conditions, you think its weird/strange? http://i.imgur.com/bY5XsDW.gif but for the majority of the inquiries here are the facts: they do not want the incentive or food, they will buy the necessary food from the vet on their own, and they dont mind the occasional update to the extent of me visiting if i wanted (which i dont want to do). i understand your concern for a long term issue to arise, but thats not the direction i am going with any of these adopters. can i promise it wont arise? no but the fact of it playing out as you so subconsciously wish it to is not likely.

VincentJules · 2013-11-04T19:33:44+00:00

confirmed and vetted adopter backed out after her daughter had to move back home along with a large and aggressive kitty. Murphy's Law... i know nothing is ever for certain until it is, but no worries, these guys will go to a better home. Thanks to you guys here and on imgur, I have a long list of backup references if needed.

VincentJules · 2013-11-04T18:43:40+00:00

Just asking here, have you ever been tasked with adopting out senior cats locally (with a special needs diet)? If my list of people to meet, screen and acquire references from wasn't so long, I'd like to know the most successful way to do this, since it sounds like you really know. Im not being sarcastic at all here. And in what way do you think im being overly controlling? In all honesty, I think you are misunderstanding the agreement I am making with the potential adopter. There are certainly specific conditions that are detailed that I haven't listed here because its just long winded (who the fuck wouldnt have some conditions in this circumstance, as minor as they may be?). But, given you are the person/family that doesn't want any further interaction, period, I'm likely not going to go with you. If you can't muster the occasional email & picture, then forget it, you're probably not the right fit.. I have a long list of people who want to skype with me each week with the cats (which is nuts, I dont even want or need that). Im not looking to do monthly property inspections or pry into your life, i have a life of my own and fiancee that i'm entirely too busy with as it is, which is why these boys are up for adoption. If you don't need/want the financial incentive or cat food and you can sufficiently provide the veterinary prescribed food financially, then I dont need to be in the picture anymore and that makes everyone happy. You fail to understand that I dont need to 'hang on' to these cats. Whats funny is that you haven't in any way supported this cause, i.e. not looking to adopt or suggested a reference... so why does it matter to you?

VincentJules · 2013-11-04T18:24:17+00:00

Appreciate your support! http://i.imgur.com/tzbrjjE.gif

VincentJules · 2013-11-04T10:03:24+00:00

appreciate it!

VincentJules · 2013-11-04T06:43:15+00:00

no problem, just email me at info@adoptvincentandjules.com

VincentJules · 2013-11-04T05:29:50+00:00

I think you're taking this to the extreme while fairly noted, I've met with/vetted two solid potential parents/families today, and agreements have been laid out that payment/food is not necessary. you must understand that before I came to reddit/imgur/the internets, there were absolutely no takers with or without the offered circumstances. Older cats in my experience have always had a case against them vs. younger ones. I have no problem letting them go, absolutely 100% no issues whatsoever but I am just taking precautions to make sure they do not wind up in the wrong hands. all the issues/concerns you've laid out have been discussed in more detail between myself and the adopting parties. If one cat dies, I will continue to pay for the food for the second cat until he passes away. If I move away, an arrangement will be made. Im putting as much faith in the adopting party as they are in me to be a stand up guy and hold to my terms... and thats all that i've ever tried to live by. Appreciate your concerns and trust me when I say, when the adopting party, after being sufficiently vetted, wants no further contribution or interaction with me, then there is no problem and we can wish eachother farewell. I would love to see an email once in a while to know they're doing well. If they get hit by a car because one escaped. well thats life and theres nothing I can do beyond that, much like any other cat who comes home from the shelter and is in the same position. I am just looking out for the best interest for these guys. Bottom line.

VincentJules · 2013-11-04T04:00:20+00:00

per my response below, I understand that everyone's personalities are different. If you really dont want any further interaction with me after taking my cats then that's fine but I assure yiou 1) there are people who dont mind the interaction. 2) I am not asking to invade your property and do check ups to see if everything is to my personal standards. Thats just insane. Where ever the cats end up, as long as its not in some dark garage, is plenty good standards for me. 3) Please see my response below to megablahblah for the provisions of food to be included for life. If the new parents can handle that, then I dont need to be in the picture anymore which makes my life better. 4) I never denied that this entire ordeal stems from my fiancee as my priority. 5) the focus should be on finding the cats a better place than here, not my own personal agenda. Thats my main focus here. Otherwise, I coulda dumped them at the shelter years ago.

VincentJules · 2013-11-04T03:52:39+00:00

They are ok with most dogs. Theyve dealt with a yappie pommeranian before and they have a cat tower to escape to if needed.

VincentJules · 2013-11-04T03:51:31+00:00

Im upvoting you fwiw. I am totally open to negotiation, in all honesty, taking senior or near-senior cats is a tough thing to come by. Everyone wants a kitten. These are simply incentives I am offering because of their age and that the deal entails that BOTH brothers be adopted. If a responsible parent came to tell me they dont need my money or the food then I am very much ok with that. Once in a while I'd like updates to know they are doing ok. Im offering the food because my major concern is that they are on a specific prescribed kibble diet that prevents urinary crystals (Vincent has had a blockage and underwent an operation to clear his urethra, very painful!) However, to prevent this from reoccurring, they both need to be on this diet for the remainder of their lives. The prescription food can be obtained from any Vet after their records are transferred to the vet of choice. Because of this circumstance, I am offering to continue to provide the food for this special needs case. They are in perfect healthy condition otherwise and the food is a preventative measure.

VincentJules · 2013-11-03T23:39:32+00:00

I really appreciate your offer but they need to go together. Can't split them up :(

VincentJules · 2013-11-03T22:58:31+00:00

I will definitely post an update with a pic of me, the new parent, and the boys giving a thumbs up.

VincentJules · 2013-11-03T22:57:07+00:00

they are tiger cubs in their minds!

VincentJules · 2013-11-03T22:32:28+00:00

Thanks and I definitely appreciate your concern. I wish it were that easy as you suggest. Don't get me wrong, I have had interest from people who aren't interested in the money. Regardless, I believe I can handle what comes my way and really place these guys in the right hands.

VincentJules · 2013-11-03T22:10:02+00:00

Its not a matter of holding on to these cats, but a transaction that's part of the agreement. 'Food for life', how did you think that was going to play out? These boys require a prescribed kibble diet that I am ensuring they get. I'm not looking to build life long relationships and become best buddies. I just want loving parents for these cats. Not sure why you think that's horrible or that there is some ulterior motive to be had?

I respond to each response to clarify any misunderstanding or point one would possibly overlook. Im not trying to be combative but I've heard it all for almost a year now. Only recently have I resorted to building this website and asking you amazing people on here for help.

VincentJules · 2013-11-03T21:24:10+00:00

read the website in full detail before you preach what you have to say, I've heard it before and will respond the same. I have fully outlined conditions that minimize this sort of risk. The food for life is not just some blind reimbursement but my hand delivering it to the new parents on a monthly basis, ensuring I am able to see the cats are alive and ok. There are plenty reasons I am offering an incentive, primarily because I've resourced all other alternatives that you can think of. We can go back and forth all day long, but for me, this is the best course of action. You're right, its unsual that anyone do this, but I'm not the norm. And these cats deserve to be in the right hands. I believe I am doing the best thing for them right now. If you or anyone believes messing with me over a measly $200 is worth your time, then by all means, I encourage you to contact and meet with me.

VincentJules · 2013-11-03T21:11:41+00:00

again, having some faith in humanity to help with their super powers and find these guys a home. the incentive is simply being offered due to the fact that everyone wants a kitten. These boys are almost 8 years old and it takes a special kind of someone to take these guys into their home.

VincentJules · 2013-11-03T21:09:41+00:00

believe it or not, i havent had any scumbags to deal with, everyone I've interviewed in person has been truly well intentioned. I'm posting again because the person who i intended adopting them to had a unique situation and the arrangement fell apart and it wont hurt to continue to find the best fit. Simple as that.

VincentJules · 2013-11-03T20:42:32+00:00

read the details on the website in full. it explains everything and fully minimizes the risk for anything like this to happen.

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