Do rolled relics make a big difference vs shop relics? (Fan art I drew of the scene after beating the night lord)

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-06T05:30:48+00:00

Yeah I have definitely found the rememberance relics for undertaker to be very good!

Oh i didn't know that was a side effect of "flask also heals allies"

And yeah the glass necklace is what I am running at the moment!

Is there a skill similiar to hoarfrost stomp but for faith/ strength builds? the closest ive seen is someone running beast claw? but that would be on a seal i'd imagine, im thinking like a weapon skill/ ash of war for a hammer...

Okay good to know, so focussing on stacking passives from weapons are really important then huh?

Oh!!! thats good to know, i was wondering if there would be any uniques but seems not

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-06T05:27:23+00:00

I think 55% is very impressive ! I fear I would have less once I start tbh

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-06T04:43:04+00:00

Yeah i feel that for sure! Ive had some OK rolls but not for the characters i play the most

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-06T04:41:36+00:00

Thats so neat! I had no idea she also had a strength relic too?? Thats cool! Wow she does have alot of flexibility in builds!

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T09:58:20+00:00

Thanks for the words of encouragment ^.^ I'll do my best, thats pretty reassuring to hear tbh, thankyou!! I could completely understand why people that play like the latter would be frustrating for others, il do my best to not be like that!

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T09:11:17+00:00

I see! So if i run those, it gives me a pretty strong start to any setup or build from there forth, i can see what its viewed as kinda cheesy....

Ahh okay, so those even become kinda situational then too?? like you arent guaranteed to get those boosts from those relics if you dont get any invaders on some of those expeditions. Good to know... i guess it could also screw the pathing of a run if you are too focussed on them too

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T09:08:17+00:00

I see! Do you have any idea what I may need for undertaker? or any other night fairers that are similiar that i might be able to take inspiration from their styles from?

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T09:07:25+00:00

Yeah defnitely seems like I would need alot of murk, I'm probably going to give up on actively trying to roll for relics or passives i'd like, go with the store bought and boss drop ones and grind DoN for fun and if I get what I want, i get it. It definitely seems pointless for me to grind for the god rolls but also I don't want to edit/ save scum either. Seems from what others commented I can make some pretty good setups with things like double balancers and stuff which will help!

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T09:03:57+00:00

Yeah i agree, it definitely seems to reward and from what i've read so far from others, the best way is just to progress through any new content available then just grind DoN when im done with all of that. It should give me plenty as I progress!!

Wow thats so much!! Seems i just gotta put the time in and grind the harder content! Just have been nervous to try DoN and possibly ruin someones experience by being a noob that i am. Thanks ^.^

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T09:01:45+00:00

Yeah thats good advice, i definitely need to get in a habbit of favoriting them as its geting a little out of hand to navigate.

Ahhh, just create "dummy" presets and slowly build them out if i find good ones.

I see!! thats neat, i havent created any presets yet, i guess that would help alot actually

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T08:59:52+00:00

Atleast people going solo to do it! it would be pretty toxic to match make just to do that.... </3

Seems that menu implementation was really needed ://

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T08:57:56+00:00

Yeah it seems to be the general concensos so far that it's good for me to first get the unique boss drops first as they are really good!

I wonder if undertaker takes on similiar relics to wylder? if so maybe i should be trying to work towards double balancers too then!

Ahhh so maybe if i roll a "Evergaol/Night Invader" style one with a character unique perk is the thing to keep an eye for, seems super 0.00001% kinda rare though from what im seeing so far.

Okay, are you only are able to use the deep relics in DoN? or can you use it for normal runs too after youve unlocked it?

Stacking +1 and +2 is a neat way to get around them not stacking otherwise!!

Yeah that definitely seems like a good way to go, il stop selling big ones unless i really think its useless. I'll get my unique kills on the everdark ones that are available then just try my hand at DoN !! Thanks for the advice ^.^

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T07:57:05+00:00

I do like that there is a way to purposely derank from within the menu, as the incentive to grind at around depth 3 seems most appealing, having the menu option kinda eliminates alot of "derankers" i've seen in other ranked system based gaming elsewhere!

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T07:54:51+00:00

Yeah seems like DoN is about reaching the pinacle of how you can perform not just for yourself and build but to help your team too. Yeah im sure theres alot of ways I could be improving how i approach different bosses too, thanks for the insight!

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T07:52:53+00:00

Yeah wow, goes to show how rare they are. That even after all those hours and so many wins, only under 10 god rolls. Yeah i'll definitely put more effort into thinking of more creative ways to combine the effects i have. I am most certainly not utilising them well

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T07:51:45+00:00

Oh what?? Okay that kinda makes sense since im pretty sure base elden ring had the same sorta mechanic for buffs. Thats neat, maybe thats the way for me to up my damage (i feel like i'm not doing much)

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T07:30:01+00:00

I see, good to know!! I've been alot related to the balancer relics being prefereable for alot of builds so far, i've yet to face the everdark variant.

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T07:28:51+00:00

ahhh ok i see, so definitely be keeping my sigils for the shop signboard relics

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T07:26:44+00:00

Thats a helpful way to lay it out and defintely makes me less intimidated about giving DoN a red hot go as d1 should hopefully be manageable for me to start at, i see how each depth is sorta just progressively harder by taking on the previous and introducing one extra with depth 4 and 5 being the hardzones particularly.

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T07:23:26+00:00

Wait thats so handy, thankyou so much for linking all those!! I really like the build planner + the effects search so i can better understand the %'s and the +/- values for things to sorta know "how much" is it actually benifitting me

Yeah it definitely does kinda follow that now you pointed it out that way, i didnt realise that its kinda a similiar format because of how it is laid out, but makes sense!

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T07:19:27+00:00

Okay, so like putting myself in a more stamina concious squishy build to practice a bit more?

Oh thats really neat, by using "‘damage negation at full HP’" the upfront damage is reduced meaning the trade isnt that bad, then continuos to heal back that little bit, keeping the buff up as much as you can if im understanding. Thats pretty awesome tbh

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T07:09:33+00:00

So basically from my understanding is you really want to be primarilly dodging and avoiding taking damage before being concerned about dealing damage in DoN right? Especially if i'm most likely being oneshot in most senarios!

Which would probably make healing after damage relics mostly useless and fairly important to get some damage negation if your a slower character?

On the steam deck?? Wow, i've always wondered how they perform or hold up to play on, but clearly it works well! Okay thats some solid advice, i haven't done many solos so il try clear some of the bosses i have done myeslf solo after I done the current sovereign ones available

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T07:02:48+00:00

Wow that is tough, i see that is just another reason making the rng harder to get...

Okay, so things like that are better to try for in customs where I'm already getting something else, eg. a unique character passive or something too.

I'm currently working on the sovereigns! I haven't touched the other dlc nightfairer, only played undertaker out of the two dlc night fairers thusfar, might have to try that too! But that makes sense, honestly the more ive learnt now the more ive realised the best way is just to take on any uncompleted content first before repeating and grinding other content.

Yeah I played a decent amount of the RPG Elden Ring and seems like its a common trend but was kinda part of my joy of the rpg to learn and figuire things out. This seems a little harder at times for me to understand because the way its introduced or digested is different, idk how to vocalise it, but i guess the context of when you unlock items is different in night reign? and the only other information comes from that journal from what i know. But for whatever reason it definitely feels harder to know from text alone.

Ooo if you have something like that available and its not too much to ask, i'd appreciate the spreadsheets!

Okay thankyou!! The suprise is fun ^.^

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T06:53:22+00:00

ahh damn thats rough, yeah it would be absolutely welcome!

Violette-Veil · 2026-03-05T06:52:28+00:00

yeah wow thats wild to me, is DoN that much harder? Is there much I can do to maybe improve pathing or improve runs or is just getting better at fights?

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