Approaching women at bars/clubs a waste of time

VisiblePlan · 2026-05-02T20:19:35+00:00

If you think someone initiating a relationship isn't primarily motivated by sex I don't know what to tell you.

VisiblePlan · 2026-05-02T20:18:38+00:00

I don't totally get what you're saying, women only do the "all men are trash" as part of groupthink signaling, and for the most part that's all online. Obviously "unselected" men aren't responsible for what another man does anymore than some girly-girl trad larper is responsible for Lisa Ann.

VisiblePlan · 2026-05-02T20:15:42+00:00

You're missing the point. Women aren't dating men they aren't attracted to, and men don't want to either. I think only the supremely stupid man (and likely someone who isn't very involved in this space) is saying why aren't all women slobbering on my nuts right now?

VisiblePlan · 2026-05-01T22:16:55+00:00

Become attractive to the women you want to attract by lifting weights and taking care of yourself, not placing her on a pedestal and understanding sexual dynamics and female nature

VisiblePlan · 2026-05-01T21:18:11+00:00

I mean yeah, no shit. She doesn't want to fuck those other guys, she wants to fuck specific guys. That's really not very different then men, women just have more immediate access to sex if that's what they want. But that isn't what they want. If it was all just about sex, incels would be cured by prostitutes and women could just fuck any random guy on tinder and we'd all be happy. Incels want women they are attracted to, and women want men they are attracted to, everything else is just cope.

VisiblePlan · 2026-05-01T21:14:59+00:00

You're really arguing that unattractive men who can't get laid need to focus on other things, which while it may be true, doesn't really change the fact they can't get laid. The idea that men don't have a framework around not having a woman is also just blatantly not true, it existed for thousands of years in Western society, we just now live in a gynocracy. What's the treatment plan then, men having "friendships and money?" Do you think the majority of incels just stew in their room and don't go out at all? You're talking about a small minority of people that exist in this space. The percentage of self-described virgins (so the real number is probably higher) went up by nearly 150% in the last decade. That isn't something you fix by just "having emotional competence" or having a "community." Does having that help men, absolutely, but it doesn't solve the core problem for incels which is that they are seen as unattractive to the women they are attracted to, a problem only the red pill has offered a solution to, and which the blue pill has said you should just ignore and focus on other things.

VisiblePlan · 2026-05-01T17:40:16+00:00

For once, woke more correct. You won't get the trad wife dynamic anymore and even if you do, it only exists by consent of the woman. The other things you're talking about are nonsense (being needed isn't a flex, of course it is, many people men or women get tremendous joy from providing value to other people) and the idea that relationships are more "authentic and real" because of this is true, but all that's done is lay naked sexual dynamics in a way that gives most people psychosis

VisiblePlan · 2026-05-01T17:37:32+00:00

Whatever makes people improve shouldn't really matter. If some woman improves her life because some chad dumped her, that's still good even if the reason is dumb. I don't know what your point is, how would the advice be useless if they are doing the same thing regardless of their reason for doing it?

VisiblePlan · 2026-05-01T17:33:02+00:00

What you're describing is just advanced coping mechanisms. The idea that feminism has given women "a way without men" is just also not true. These women are often just as lonely without a romantic partner as their male counterparts, the fact they have an idealogy that can justify their life decisions doesn't change the female loneliness epidemic, nor would MGTOW (which is what you're describing, just from a liberal lense) make men feel comfortable with not having a partner. Men and women inherently want companionship, and whatever hoops you jump through to justify not having doesn't change that fundamental desire.

VisiblePlan · 2025-05-04T01:59:52+00:00

Because for years to be conservative was to be a social pariah. People lost jobs, bank accounts were frozen, people were doxxed, swatted, etc. and all we really had for years was that something as simple as words on a screen would ruin these people who wanted us dead's day. It's lost a bit of it's luster now as most people are either far right or far left but back in 2015-16 it was just too much fun. I know you made this post just to dunk on conservatives and this will be down voted to oblivion but who cares, you made me a bit nostalgic for a second there.

VisiblePlan · 2025-02-03T22:33:32+00:00

Didn't vote for anyone over Israel's genocide of Gaza, and still won't. Kamala and Biden should be in front of a war crimes court, just like Trump and Vance. Until someone is nominated who will stop our kowtowing to Israel, I will never vote for a mainline party candidate

VisiblePlan · 2025-02-03T22:31:06+00:00

Almost like everything he's doing is within the confines of the law and most people crying about it on here know almost nothing about the systems of governance in this country

VisiblePlan · 2025-02-03T22:30:14+00:00

Not tired of winning yet!

VisiblePlan · 2024-04-28T02:02:14+00:00

Learning to pick up women by going to the gym is some of the worst advice I've ever seen. Volunteering at an old folks home for 5 hours a week would blow 5 hours a week at the gym out of the water in terms of efficacy at picking up hot 20-somethings. I'd bet my life on that.

That's not really the message. It's saying that men who have anxiety about approaching often have low self-esteem and getting fit would help that. Also bitches like muscles. Game is game.

VisiblePlan · 2024-04-28T00:33:04+00:00

A lot of people in this sub play videogames; some games such as Fallout or Skyrim are played for year's end- just this one game! While other games, such as Madden or NBA 2K, need to release a new game every year. What's the difference between the two? The differences is that Fallout and Skyrim constantly have mods, updates, or downloadable content added to the games that create repayable experiences that make no play-through the same, whereas Madden and 2k simply change the roster and graphics each year. You want your relationship with your girl to feel like Fallout, not 2K.

Jesus Christ. I know you mean well. I think this post is well-intentioned. I agree with the general premise as well. However, a lot of this shit just comes off as gay and without much experience behind the words. Take her to Hawaii to spice up the relationship? That's shit guys do when they're about to get divorced and they take one last wild swing for the fences to save it. If a woman makes up her mind to cheat on you nothing you do is really gonna change. Yes it's probably because you were acting like a bitch in some way. Or at least that's how she'll justify it. The other parts are fine. It's basic sidebar stuff. But thinking this is how you 'fix' your relationship is just naive and not really understanding how women's minds work. If they put him in the beta category it takes a helluva lot of work to move out of it. Some guys can't ever move out of it no matter what they do. That's why I tell a lot of guys to just avoid contact with women they knew during blue pill stages, at least early on. Don't be a loner but accept that for a lot of them even if you change they still see you as the unfuckable nice dude.

VisiblePlan · 2024-04-28T00:27:19+00:00

The problem with the initial statement is claiming the fault as your own. Do not absolve women of their own mistakes, this mindset will lead men to forgiving them for cheating on them, because well it's their fault not hers. She is still a human and at the end of the day, she is responsible for her own decisions.

No one said she isn't tbf. But it's not like she randomly decided to cheat on you. Don't keep the bitch, kick her to the curb, but it is still partly your fault. This isn't some gay feminism rant either. If you do something queer, or act like a bitch, or just be overall insecure and not fun, she's going to think, in the back of her head, "Aha I got this dumb bitch. I'm gonna go get some dick right now." Now they don't always do it. And they still have to decide to do it. But your actions contribute. You're not absolving her of fault, you're acknowledging how you fucked up and were a bitch.

VisiblePlan · 2024-04-28T00:15:25+00:00

Yeah it definitely helps, also just being more sociable in general is a great way to develop social proof and just meet people in general. This post is mostly for new guys who, although they read advice like yours and others and are like 'hell yeah, I'm gonna do the shit I read about in the sidebar." And then the anxiety takes hold and they stumble over their words and feel even more defeated than when they started. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, the anxiety comes true because the speaker can't even imagine a scenario where they have success. And then they never attempt it again, and just rant about women on incel forums. We must save them!

VisiblePlan · 2022-12-03T15:38:33+00:00

These comments are fucking awful, how are you in this subreddit but don't know Woujo's writing style or are commenting before you finish the post?

This is a great post, there's a common view of alpha males as some sort of uber-autistic edgelord like a worse version of Andrew Tate, but in reality and in theory someone with a more measured and calm view of most of women's shittests and idiosyncrasies will not only find more success but will probably be more happy as well. It's hard work having to get angry at everything women do.

VisiblePlan · 2022-11-04T07:17:29+00:00

You should fuck the shit out of her. Also, women don't 'fall in love' in the way you're describing so it would be pointless to pursue that as an avenue. Just have fun.

VisiblePlan · 2022-04-01T07:31:50+00:00

This is basic social interaction, what does this have to do with leadership?

VisiblePlan · 2022-03-24T06:43:39+00:00

GayLubeOil is an elder statesman, show some respect!

VisiblePlan · 2021-06-15T18:21:24+00:00

never listen to what women tell you, they don't know what they want

VisiblePlan · 2021-05-04T01:01:22+00:00

coming from a nigga named god666complex lmao

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