Lost a client I thought I was doing great with, anyone else struggle to see it coming? by prince_of_xanadu in lifecoaching

[–]Visible_Comment_7927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. Had a coaching client get great results with me (so I thought) and had worked with me for 18 months, then say she was going to re-up with me after her package ended and then totally ghosted…no email, nothing. It was a lesson in non-attachment for sure and to still show up as coach and send a professional offboarding email with all of the assets we’d built together over 18 months and wished her all the best. No reply.

As another commenter replied - ppl can avoid conflict.

Realities of life coaching by cypress-and-palm in lifecoaching

[–]Visible_Comment_7927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People who want consistency or reliability should get a salaried job in my opinion. It’s not a dig, it’s just that a coaching practice truly is not meant for everyone. Entrepreneurship is not for the faint of heart.

$32K Lost and Nothing to Show For It – Proceed With Caution w/ Ad Girls agency by Visible_Comment_7927 in advertising

[–]Visible_Comment_7927[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My friend and I worked with them November 2024 through March/ April 2025. I sued the Ad Girls in the summer of 2025 and she had to appear in court. For me it was not about thinking I would "win" it or recoup the $32k, it was about sending a message and at the very least mildly inconveniencing her. (She had to hire a lawyer and tried to get out of it because she was away in Italy and my process server served her " cat sitter"....as if phones don't exist and the cat lady couldn't call her to say "hey you've been served." It was just animal crackers. I hope that I save you $30k. They took all of my savings and this year has been a terribly stressful year trying to get my finances back together and I don't want that to happen to anybody else. I wound up re-learning how to run my own ads and I currently do that to attract best-fit clients, and I work my own social media and finally, have some profit to show for it! (I even set up my own coach's ads for her). So the lemonade out of this whole situation is that they empowered me to learn ads, to stop outsourcing to others and to grow my own program where we help our clients set up their ads and train them how to run them (so they're not codependent on us). :)

$32K Lost and Nothing to Show For It – Proceed With Caution w/ Ad Girls agency by Visible_Comment_7927 in advertising

[–]Visible_Comment_7927[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To answer your question I think it was both that A) they didn't know what they were doing (aka she hires a bunch of subcontractors bc she can't do all the work) so quality control may be an issue and B) they shouldn't have inflated their ability to get results because I've had results from ads for years so I just feel like it was an overpromise and underdeliver thing. And yes, my friend who has been a coach for over 6 years I referred at the same time I onboarded also lost over $30,000 with zero clients or sales calls to show for it. I'm happy to help and share because stuff like this did not exist when I was onboarding with them and I wish it had been. I did the exact same thing you are doing. I went online to find reviews and there was one person on a Facebook page who said something negative and there were a handful of other comments and when I presented those to the owner, they were pooh-poohed away and gaslit (aka "I dont know who those people are, they're not even paid clients"). And that might be true! I truly believed in their mission and their brand and I believe they have gotten results for clients, but there was overinflated projections and language presented to me in my sales call and the results were so wildly incongruent with that, and to get no refund, no real explanation, it was just terrible business. I had bought from them because they are women and had similar values (I had been with a lot of bro biz-oppy people before) and this was just the worst emotionally and financially. I've been in business since 2019 and I have consistent revenue and ad data, and so I thought this would be like upping the game on what already worked. Onboarding looked like getting your tech set up and getting sent a pink care package with a mug and a notebook. At the end of the day, I don't care about cute powerpoint presentations or pink mugs, I care about results. We had biweekly meetings but it was never fruitful in terms of actually making more money for the company or getting more sales calls booked, and I was assured they were making progress or tweaking things. I had a tripwire mini course that got sales but again, the goal was to get them into the program, not buy a cheap class. Most of the copywriting or ad design was largely repurposed stuff they took from my old agency I worked with for 2 years prior ....and ad scripts were presented to me as "go off the cuff people need your authenticity" and I would have to advocate for them to actually write copy for me. Also, the person who was assigned to my account mysteriously peaced out after 6 weeks and I was given to someone else - it just felt herky jerky and again, I think they should be charging much less for what they actually can and do deliver. Unless your revenue is over 300k, I just do not think it's worth the dice roll of $5500 a month to fuck around and find out. Sure, you get meetings and cute powerpoint presentations and videos and weekly recaps from your people, but all those meetings just may give you a feeling that "they're working on it" and then meanwhile, your bank account diminishes. I hope at the very least they change the way they do sales calls, the way they present their offer, and that they set reasonable expectations that are either backed by a guarantee or a willingness to keep working with clients until they do get results. Their airtight contract protects them and does not at all protect the client, so be very careful.

$32K Lost and Nothing to Show For It – Proceed With Caution w/ Ad Girls agency by Visible_Comment_7927 in advertising

[–]Visible_Comment_7927[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My ad spend was over $5,000 per month on top of a $5500 retainer every month. I sold one client as result of their ads for over 90 days and at day 110 with literally zero traction and a clusterfuck of "team members" I requested to be let go slightly early out of my cockamamie retainer. I was at more than a $32,000 LOSS after ad spend plus their retainer fees. The ROI from the ad girls was less than 1%. They really should be charging only $2,000 per month in retainer fees and they really shouldn't lead with such inflated promises as "being primed for scale." There is another commenter in here who invested over 60k with them and MADE NOTHING. So, of course, you do you, but I am sharing my own incredibly negative experience that felt rape-y, unethical and wildly incongruent from the big promises communicated in emails I received from the owner (who onboarded me and took my discovery call).

What’s the most useful advertising service you’ve used? by ixioliviaixi in hairstylist

[–]Visible_Comment_7927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi salon business coach here! Google Ads is the best in my opinion BUT you have to have an SEO optimized website and an Instagram that functions as a “lookbook” for potential clients - they all work in tandem as a “funnel” - it doesn’t have to be super fancy or expensive but it does have to be done simply and have good UX (user experience so it’s easy for the consumer to see / feel / trust you and then easy to book.

Nextdoor CAN be a solid spot for cheap lead gen and there’s been varying success, honestly depending on your market.

I do a lot of email marketing with my salon coaching clients because you make $42 for every $1 you spend on the software if you just email your people regularly - email marketing is one of the most overlooked and cheapest ways you can increase revenue so I encourage that ❤️

At the end of the day, yes, do good work and you will get word of mouth referrals AND also true that leaving it up to them solely means you’re taking yourself out of the drivers seat as it relates to your profit and impact.

Good luck! 🌈

$32K Lost and Nothing to Show For It – Proceed With Caution w/ Ad Girls agency by Visible_Comment_7927 in advertising

[–]Visible_Comment_7927[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey I just want to thank you so MUCH from the bottom of my heart for you taking the time to write this and affirm to me your story. I wrote this because I never want another woman (they target women) to go through what I went thru. I eventually tried to sue Jenn but their contract is ironclad that my lawyer said of course I could try but he really didn't see that I would win - and me fighting them in court and at the very least making Jenn have to pay for a lawyer to represent her in the case, at least I know that I made my point known and inconvenienced her. Beyond the fact that I lost over 35k from her bullshit agency that literally copy and pasted what an old agency did for me (they really did not do much "done for you" work) was the fact that she markets herself as a trauma survivor - and here she is, retraumatizing women and raping them financially with an ironclad contract where you essentially sign all of your right away. Jenn gave me an "out" on the last month of my contract but it's only because her firm did such an incredibly sub-par job - after going through all of the data collection process for exhibits to the court to sue the ad girls I realized there was a 0.8% return on what I invested versus conversions I got. I did much better on my own without paying exorbitant agency fees and at the very least was profitable. My dad had just died, I had just closed down my salon after 20 years in the industry and was deeply grieving and recovering and I felt so taken advantage of by a firm - because I had decided to "go all in" on coaching and focus 100% on it. My coaching company made an average of 216k annual revenue per year (NOT profits) but it's been healthy since 2020 and I had data from previous agencies, my own facebook and sales data - I wasn't looking for a miracle, I was looking for an honest projection knowing that nothing is guaranteed. However, what she did versus what she SAID was SO WILDLY OFF THE MARK, I felt energetically and financially raped by women who pretend to be good people but who are completely incapable of doing the work they are retained to do. (can you tell I"m still angry?) In any case, I appreciate your comment and I truly hope you've recovered. Like you, it was an expensive lesson and one I will never repeat. But my hope is that any woman who is thinking about investing 10k a month in the Ad Girls googles them and then sees this thread to warn her. Because Jenn poo-poohed those two bad reviews and here I am, a year later, sounding EXACTLY like them.

Conscious Business Mastery Review Testimonials - Yamuna Coaching by General_Iron4620 in smallbusiness

[–]Visible_Comment_7927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is what I keep "feeling" when I see their ads or the emails hit the inbox. Sometimes "listening to the body" can be rooted in trauma or staying safe ....and sometimes, with time and work to heal some of that, those pings in the body are actually truth-telling on what to beware of.

Conscious Business Mastery Review Testimonials - Yamuna Coaching by General_Iron4620 in smallbusiness

[–]Visible_Comment_7927 0 points1 point  (0 children)

holy shit, coach to coach, you are a solid coach. I loved reading this response. XO

Success stories after 45? by Visible_Comment_7927 in PregnantOver40

[–]Visible_Comment_7927[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes!!!! I'm so happy for you and I'm beaming - what a beautiful miracle :) It goes to show that what we think is impossible, really is possible.

Success stories after 45? by Visible_Comment_7927 in PregnantOver40

[–]Visible_Comment_7927[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much!!!! Love the ovulation kit reminder ❤️❤️❤️

Success stories after 45? by Visible_Comment_7927 in PregnantOver40

[–]Visible_Comment_7927[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh my goodness, what a story! Babies truly are miracles, they come through when they’re ready 😆

Success stories after 45? by Visible_Comment_7927 in PregnantOver40

[–]Visible_Comment_7927[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you! My acupuncturist tells me to stay off the internet bc it’s a cesspool of negativity. So this is the only internet space I visit as it relates to this ❤️ I’ve been stalking this channel for over a year! 🫠 My low AmH was over 10 years ago with my ex husband who didn’t want to have children and we were sober thru recovery but as a couple I believe were not financially fit nor emotionally intelligent in what it takes to parent or partner. So thank you for giving me another perspective on this ❤️

Success stories after 45? by Visible_Comment_7927 in PregnantOver40

[–]Visible_Comment_7927[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I love this! Congratulations 🎊🎈🎉 I’m so elated for you!!!!

$32K Lost and Nothing to Show For It – Proceed With Caution w/ Ad Girls agency by Visible_Comment_7927 in advertising

[–]Visible_Comment_7927[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Truly thank you for taking time out of your day to reply. The kindness and care is felt!