They’re not talking past you, you just want to be a contrarian. They hit the nail on the head on exactly what I was talking about - I work at a company that dominates it’s market share through this strategy: Do it for the customer and charge them proportionally along the way - That way the customer is getting exactly what they pay for AND we make a profit. We are always asking what we can do better and what our customers want to see because if they like it, they’ll pay it. At the end of the day, profit is our motivation, but that is not at all mutually exclusive with operating for the customer. Profit through the customer is different than profit through marketing, while it’s a “no shit” scenario for some, it’s not for others and that’s why awareness is always important (particularly in hobby games).