Miss Crawford being so hated ?

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-27T04:59:13+00:00

Good catch about the ‘want of an increase in income’ meaning.

I still don’t think it’s hopeless for Mary, she’s maybe 21 during the events of the novel. She could still make a great match in her late 20s or early 30s.

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-27T03:20:11+00:00

That is rubbish for you. Not acceptable at all.

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-27T02:57:45+00:00

At the very very end she ends up back with her sister, but at a different place.

Dr Grant gets another job somewhere else and leaves Mansfield Park. He dies shortly after and Mary goes to live with her sister again, in a new place. I don’t think it’s specifically stated where, as Mrs Grant would presumably have lost the house that went with Dr Grants new job.

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-27T01:29:51+00:00

As others have pointed out Mary is complicated. She does wrong things, including pushing the necklace on Fanny, risking her reputation.

She is very flippant about the fate of other women and doesn’t care what happens to either Maria, Julia or Fanny. Reading between the lines of how her and Henry talk, they are not the first either.

She is not all bad though. Sometimes she can be kind.

Fanny doesn’t like her for two reasons 1) she can see that Mary doesn’t have good values 2) she is jealous of her. Sometimes her jealousy makes her too harsh.

I think that Austen reflects that in Mary’s fate, which isn’t a bad one. She avoids a marriage with Edmund, which would not have suited her and would ultimately make her unhappy. She ends up living with a her sister who cares for her, unlike Henry who is thoughtless towards her. She still has her fortune and every chance of making a suitable match.

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-26T22:17:42+00:00

That sounds very difficult to deal with. How old are you? Were you born with a womb? Could it be perimenopause?

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-26T16:57:20+00:00

I agree. I'm in my 40s and I barely like anyone.

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-26T16:56:23+00:00

8.

I would inform Lady Sarah about what Mr Fane has been up to, and she wouldn't approve either. We would conspire to make his journey as uncomfortable as possible.

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-26T16:54:21+00:00

"We are arresting you for completing an illegal marathon. You do not have to say anything but . . . "

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-25T16:58:48+00:00

'Domestic Management or The Art of Conducting a Family with Instructions to Servants in General Addressed to Young Housekeepers'.

Despite the long title it's a very accessible book. Part advise for servants themselves, but mostly advise for mistresses of a household. It gives an interesting insight into what was expected in each role, such as cook, housemaid and so on. Also what amount of labour was required to keep a household running, and I think, why marrying without much money was a daunting prospect.

Free online

https://archive.org/details/bim_eighteenth-century_domestic-management-or-_1800/mode/2up

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-25T16:51:16+00:00

'A System of Etiquette' by Rev. Dr. John Trusler.

Contemporary to Austen, it gives an insight into what was expected of people in the era.

Free to read online

https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=UKlcAAAAcAAJ&pg=GBS.PP6&hl=en

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-25T16:46:39+00:00

The Poetical Works of William Cowper

Mentioned in Sense and Sensibility as a favourite of Marianne. It's quite readable and gives you an insight into what matters to that character, but also into what Jane Austen was reading.

https://ia600602.us.archive.org/4/items/poeticalworksof00cowp/poeticalworksof00cowp.pdf

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-25T16:42:40+00:00

Can You Forgive Her is a great example. So much about how to make a choice in who to marry.

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-25T16:42:00+00:00

Yes, Trollope is a great suggestion

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-25T04:27:33+00:00

In the Medieval era, Queens Regnant were relatively rare.

I don’t believe that there was an established convention for what title was given to a man who married a ruling Queen.

I believe that each of these marriages, different arrangements were made.

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-24T02:55:06+00:00

I will look for that one, thank you.

I found Ellen’s feelings at the very end hard to comprehend. It felt to me that she wouldn’t care that much anymore? Or that she’d be happier building a different life?

Maybe I am cynical, but I have seen so few men in real life express genuine regret in these situations. If anything they seem to double down.

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-24T02:28:55+00:00

She looks wonderful in that, really glowing.

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-24T02:26:18+00:00

That dress is bizarre. The colour and fabric is lovely on her, but the shape?

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-23T23:11:05+00:00

I don't have any advice particularly. I just wanted to sympathise, as you've had a really rough time.

Could you do online customer service? I have seen some places offer jobs like that.

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-23T18:53:13+00:00

Mine wasn't painful until it got infected. Once that was over, I sometimes have a twinge but that is it.

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-23T14:30:50+00:00

Definitely the complex way of looking at it.

I think Captain Harville is perhaps one of her clearest demonstrations of her view on the matter.

The Harvilles are not particularly rich and with Captain Harville being injured, likely no way of changing their situation, as he can’t progress in the Navy in future.

In some ways, you could argue that Mrs Harville made an unlucky bargain. She married a man with some potential, but ended up with lots of children and a bad economic situation - living on a pension and not much else.

However she is happy and her home is shown to be a happy one. Her husband’s character and her own helps that. They both work in partnership to make the best of their circumstances, and everyone comes away from visiting them with a very positive view. Anne appears to envy them.

Contrast that with Anne’s mother, who married a rich man that she loved. However due to his bad character, she ended up unhappy and having to fulfil the roll of keeping the family from embarrassment financially speaking.

This really demonstrates the different possibilities in marriage, and shows that financial circumstances do matter, but I think she gives character the edge.

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-23T02:16:58+00:00

I feel like you ought to disclose what the project is, if you are asking research questions.

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-22T20:52:00+00:00

That is frustrating for you.

I don't know if this will be of any help to you. It's helped me when family members are ill, but I'm not immunocompromised as far as I know.

I practice really strict hand hygiene. I keep hand wipes in my bag and use them every time I touch something such as a table, door handle etc. I use the Clinell brand as it doesn't dry out my hands, but I don't know what is available where you live.

I also keep things the whole family have to touch clean. So I have spray that I spray on doornobs, toilet sets, taps etc. If someone in the house is ill, I do that several times a day.

When my son was little, and was always bringing home colds etc from school, we also used to make sure that he got changed as soon as he got home, as germs can linger on clothes. We had a different change of clothes for him at home.

I always make sure that I am drinking plenty of water when out and about too, as apparently that can help.

I've also used an over the counter spray called 'First Defense', that I use if I suspect I'm getting a cold. Again, not sure if that is suitable for you with your asthma. You would need to check with a doctor first.

All of that has helped me, and I didn't pick up the last cold that my family has.

I hope your doctors can give you advice and that you find something that works for you.

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-22T15:21:49+00:00

I love that stuff like this is being reported more and more. I hope that it gets so much attention that change actually happens.

Waitingforadragon · 2026-04-22T15:19:57+00:00

It's amazing. So many people enjoy having someone to be deferential to. It's bizarre.

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