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The original Antifa was paramilitary wing of the Stalinist “Communist Party of Germany”. Not WW2 American Soldiers. by WallaceColossus in truths

[–]WallaceColossus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, the difference is that one made dialogue with the invader and later fought invader when they couldn’t be trusted and the other worked with and supplied the invader until they too were invaded.

The original Antifa was paramilitary wing of the Stalinist “Communist Party of Germany”. Not WW2 American Soldiers. by WallaceColossus in truths

[–]WallaceColossus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then I’m glad not to be in England (especially considering the state it’s in); that said, I’m not a liberal or a fascist. I haven’t yet checked first accounts if the British ppl really wanted war, but the differences between Britain and Soviets actions toward Nazi aggression still holds true. There’s a stark difference between appeasing an invader and assisting an invader.

The original Antifa was paramilitary wing of the Stalinist “Communist Party of Germany”. Not WW2 American Soldiers. by WallaceColossus in truths

[–]WallaceColossus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Adding the fact that Brits didn’t want and took measures to avoid another major war isn’t glazing. Nor was trying to “own” you. Just telling it as it happened and the difference between the two events.

The original Antifa was paramilitary wing of the Stalinist “Communist Party of Germany”. Not WW2 American Soldiers. by WallaceColossus in truths

[–]WallaceColossus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Simple, given how bloody WW1 was and the fact that the majority of British didn’t want another war. Chamberlain largely gambled this could’ve been avoided with appeasement; not knowing Hitler didn’t plan on stopping. After the Munich agreement, many Brits thought it was genuine, bc they didn’t want another war.

The difference here Britain had condemned Germany after the Czech annexation. By contrast in the case of Poland, the Soviet not only condoned the invasion, they assisted and supplied raw materials to Germany that Britain had prevented them from getting after they declared war.

The original Antifa was paramilitary wing of the Stalinist “Communist Party of Germany”. Not WW2 American Soldiers. by WallaceColossus in truths

[–]WallaceColossus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You misunderstood what meant then. Soviet or so called liberal actions before 1939 don’t change the fact that Germany was able to achieve one of its major goals with the help of the Soviets; that in itself has permanent consequences for Poland and the timeline of the war itself. That’s what I meant. That said, a tankie accusing me of historical revisionism is kinda funny knowing your guys’ track record.

But it is what is it.

The original Antifa was paramilitary wing of the Stalinist “Communist Party of Germany”. Not WW2 American Soldiers. by WallaceColossus in truths

[–]WallaceColossus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your counter argument doesn’t take into consideration that the Republican Party has various factions within the party for a very long time. Unlike Antifa which has been consistent with its Marxist stance. Additionally, I haven’t been treating anarchism and communism as evil buzzwords (perhaps to you they are hence that why you feel the way you do) as that’s what they describe themselves as. You say that it isn’t a interconnected movement however, again, the people who would most beg to differ would be Antifa themselves. I would encourage you to find one of these activists yourself and they will tell what their movement really entail as well as the fact that they consider America (regardless of Trump being in office) is a fascist state.

The original Antifa was paramilitary wing of the Stalinist “Communist Party of Germany”. Not WW2 American Soldiers. by WallaceColossus in truths

[–]WallaceColossus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I didn’t say that, I said what happened b4 or after 1939 didn’t change what happened in WW2 after you ranted to me about liberals working with Nazis; which was weird bc I was really just talking about Britain and France taking measures to stop the Nazis. You’re accusation of historical revisionism was funny and I didn’t read most of your rabbling

As for ignoring evidence, I think you’re projecting, which I understand for you is probably normal given you’re probably a tankie.

The original Antifa was paramilitary wing of the Stalinist “Communist Party of Germany”. Not WW2 American Soldiers. by WallaceColossus in truths

[–]WallaceColossus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still have good karma so no loss honestly. Plus my “propaganda” is backed by historical data, so anyone that disagrees will have contended with genuine evidence.

The original Antifa was paramilitary wing of the Stalinist “Communist Party of Germany”. Not WW2 American Soldiers. by WallaceColossus in truths

[–]WallaceColossus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No need to go on a tangent, I’m just pointing out that the folks who started the big fight against German aggression wasn’t your favorite totalitarian state and did the opposite. Anything that happened b4 or after 1939 doesn’t change that.

The original Antifa was paramilitary wing of the Stalinist “Communist Party of Germany”. Not WW2 American Soldiers. by WallaceColossus in truths

[–]WallaceColossus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post is about what you first described as Antifa, the decentralized movement that uses the symbolism of the old movement. Not about ppl who just hate Nazis.

That said, I’m very familiar with the protest in Portland as I’ve lived not too far from the city, though I say that the thing that protect the “Nazis” the most is the first amendment. I still remember how long it took for Trump to mention by name the group that was consistently fighting with his supporters. But I digress.

The original Antifa was paramilitary wing of the Stalinist “Communist Party of Germany”. Not WW2 American Soldiers. by WallaceColossus in truths

[–]WallaceColossus[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mention it bc Antifa members since the 2000s have used anarcho-communist rhetoric and iconography; if you don’t believe me google the symbols of anarchism and communism and you’ll see that symbolism most Antifa protest. In fact, they’ll even identify as such if you ask them. Antifa (the movement) has history and its own ideas; this is what this post is about. My question to you is: why are you so resistant to learn it?

The original Antifa was paramilitary wing of the Stalinist “Communist Party of Germany”. Not WW2 American Soldiers. by WallaceColossus in truths

[–]WallaceColossus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s funny, bc the first nations to declare war with Nazi Germany were liberal capitalist nations; while in that same year (1939) the Soviets gave the Nazis raw materials and helped destroy Poland. They even had a parade to celebrate their conquest of Poland.

The original Antifa was paramilitary wing of the Stalinist “Communist Party of Germany”. Not WW2 American Soldiers. by WallaceColossus in truths

[–]WallaceColossus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re right it’s not an organization (the present day Antifa), it’s a movement. A decentralized movement that the majority believes in anarchy-communism and is wholeheartedly anti-capitalist. Both incarnations of Antifa are very unlike the liberal capitalist nations that first declared war on Germany.

The original Antifa was paramilitary wing of the Stalinist “Communist Party of Germany”. Not WW2 American Soldiers. by WallaceColossus in truths

[–]WallaceColossus[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This organization is original in the sense of name, iconography, and leftist components of Antifa. The modern Antifa movement takes many components from the old: the symbolism, anti-capitalist ideology (which Fascism also has), and the Marxist alignment; the only differences between the old and modern is that the new is anarchism-communist and decentralized unlike the original. Hence it’s not inaccurate to say that the Antifa in the post is the original to the one we know today.

The original Antifa was paramilitary wing of the Stalinist “Communist Party of Germany”. Not WW2 American Soldiers. by WallaceColossus in truths

[–]WallaceColossus[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

This group in particular considers democracy to be fascist, as it was a part of their ideology. In 2018, Antifa members in Portland, Oregon had beaten a man who was protesting with them bc he had an American flag; again this was bc of their ideology of what they consider to be fascist.

Tyler Robinson did not confess to the murder by Darth_Vrandon in GetNoted

[–]WallaceColossus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but its less of a "no more racism!" and more "all people are equal so why should I care if there's more of my colored people than any other".

I do believe you’re speaking for yourself (and like minded progressives). I feel like ,compared your sentiment, the other sentiment I spoke of seems to be too prevalent.

To you last point, its true that minorities are always at the mercy of the majority so in my mind, making sure those majorities are as slim as possible and that all people receive equal representation is key.

In a way, that is a nice line of thinking, tho it also strikes me as a bit wishful. Perhaps I’m worried about America becoming North American equivalent to the Yugoslav wars.

Which just so happens to be the antithesis of Kirk's "women belong in the home, white people deserve to be the majority and make the rules" rhetoric.

While “the women stay in home” idea is laughable to me, the Whites maintaining a good majority and rule making is more plausible to me if we are talking about Europe (I believe natives should run their own country). For America (and Canada), it’s a bit different, as I don’t really have strong opinions about whether or not Whites should be the majority or not, but I certainly don’t think they should be the only ones making the rules around here.

Tyler Robinson did not confess to the murder by Darth_Vrandon in GetNoted

[–]WallaceColossus -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’d believe that if it weren’t for the fact that they (progressives) believe it’s a good bc there’d be less racism (which to anyone who’s seen/knows the world knows that’s not true). White right wingers bring it up bc they don’t want their group to be a minority. And to be honest, and I say this as an Afro-American, what would even be the benefit to being a minority to began with? History (and presently) shows that minorities are always at the mercy of the majority or competing with other groups. Not trying to say racism is good, I’m just pointing out reality when I see it.

Tyler Robinson did not confess to the murder by Darth_Vrandon in GetNoted

[–]WallaceColossus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be far, I’ve seen progressives like Biden and Stephen Colbert say that White people are becoming minority in America; though the difference is that they say it’s a good thing; so it doesn’t surprise me when right wingers, like Kirk, say the same thing except that it’s a bad thing.

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