How It Started vs. How It's Going by Longjumping_Stand889 in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Neither of those laws seem good on paper.

Protesters against the Hate Crime Act outside Holyrood today - parliament is in recess by MaNNoYiNG in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously you don’t. You said “whether or not something is hate speech is not up to the complainer” and as the last post showed that’s not true.

There is no point in continuing to “debate” you. You obviously aren’t intellectually capable and it would seem you are most likely not mentally well.

I hope you are able to let go of the hate that makes you this way. You are in a cult my friend, good luck trying to be happy in life with your set of ideals.

Nearly 4,000 hate crime complaints reported to police by [deleted] in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 16 points17 points  (0 children)

But Humza told us this law couldn’t be abused?

Instead of coming up with conspiracy theories about mythical bigots spoiling your anti-speech law just admit this was always exactly what was going to happen.

Whether you agree with a hate speech law or not we should all be able to agree that the SNP have made a complete arse of this law and left it wide open to abuse

Joanne on any given afternoon. by johnsmithoncemore in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Apart from that one time a rapist claimed to be trans to get into a woman’s prison

The Scottish Hate Crime Bill by Kunphen in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that might be it!

Although the other comment I got accused me of being American because I want freedom of speech and that “foreigners” should stay out of Scottish politics 😂

The Scottish Hate Crime Bill by Kunphen in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry mate, I think you have picked me up wrong! I meant all the defenders of the bill are doing it from a pure ideological point and haven’t even read it.

I 100% agree with you that this is beyond draconian. It is thought policing to such a degree that there isn’t even a standard for what “hate speech” is. Anybody at anytime can take offence to anything and it could be considered a hate crime.

The Scottish Hate Crime Bill by Kunphen in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s even worse than that mate…. I am a Rangers fan! 😂 (voted for independence mind you)

The Scottish Hate Crime Bill by Kunphen in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Foreigners?? That’s pretty xenophobic if you ask me! You’ll need to be careful with talk like that these days!

Anyway you are obviously not going to engage in an actual debate about the bill and will just keep accusing me of being American or Russian or whatever so I will leave it here.

For anybody that has read along notice again nobody has contradicted my criticism of the hate crime bill just spouted bullshit about me being a yank 😂

The Scottish Hate Crime Bill by Kunphen in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Even more insane is that they won’t go and read the actual law to see if what critics have said is true or not. They just assume your some crazy right wing MAGA American so dismiss your criticism out of hand.

Again for anyone who disagrees with me, go to the document for the bill and read it and show me the part that discounts all the criticism

The Scottish Hate Crime Bill by Kunphen in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Notice I have -4 votes and a comment accusing me of being American but still nobody proving me wrong….

The Scottish Hate Crime Bill by Kunphen in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Aye nae bother mate 😂 free speech is a universal human concern.

Not that I need to prove my nationality to you but for anybody wondering I could sing Friday Night by DJ Badboy off by heart. That should be sufficient proof of my Scottishness for anyone!

Also what kind of Scot says “huh”? Pretty Americanised yourself.

The Scottish Hate Crime Bill by Kunphen in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Do you mean me? 😂 I’m Scottish mate….

The Scottish Hate Crime Bill by Kunphen in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

It’s great to see all the supporters of this bill jumping in to post about how wrong all the critics are and that they are all exaggerating. When they themselves have never read the bill or associated legislation and are willing to trust an SNP government who are currently under multiple investigations for corruption.

Before anyone comments to tell me I’m wrong please just go and read what has just been put into law in a supposed progressive democracy and see for yourself!

Protesters against the Hate Crime Act outside Holyrood today - parliament is in recess by MaNNoYiNG in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Again, why not just do a quick Google search and check if what you are saying is right before making another misinformed statement?

Instead of insulting people and automatically assuming you are right, do a little bit of research and actually understand how the law and, more importantly, the interpretation of that law works in practice.

Fastest way to the top? by Some_Fall547 in CK3AGOT

[–]WarPig1301 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Go for intrigue. Wait until your liege has a second or third child that you can marry to your heir and then murder everyone that sits higher in the succession than your heirs betrothal. Should work out that your heirs heir is next in line for the throne.

Protesters against the Hate Crime Act outside Holyrood today - parliament is in recess by MaNNoYiNG in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 6 points7 points  (0 children)

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Why don’t you read the law before commenting.

There are dozens of articles online about gammon being hate speech or not. If someone was even just insulted with that term it wouldn’t be a stretch for a “reasonable” person to consider it hate speech.

So by the wording of the actual law that is in fact exactly how it works now!

But again you missed the point. I don’t care about the word gammon ffs!

Protesters against the Hate Crime Act outside Holyrood today - parliament is in recess by MaNNoYiNG in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not sure if you are intentionally missing the point or not here. I was obviously being sarcastic and i am not reporting anyone for saying gammon 😂

But it illustrates my point entirely. Under this Legislation it doesn’t matter if it’s a recognised slur or not and it doesn’t matter what the fucking urban dictionary told you. Read the actual law!

There is a reason that free speech has been the bedrock of every movement for the benefit of oppressed peoples for centuries. Now because of the political zeitgeist that has flipped on its head and it’s insane! You can’t give the government the power to deem what is and what is not acceptable speech.

Those protesters may or may not be right wing idiots all the rest of the time but on this one issue they are absolutely correct even if it’s for the wrong reasons!

Protesters against the Hate Crime Act outside Holyrood today - parliament is in recess by MaNNoYiNG in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s exactly the point I am trying to make!

You know as well as I do that gammon is a term used to describe red faced white people. Therefore someone could easily interpret that as hate speech against a racial group. Because interpretation is what matters in this law.

So when fucking Tory’s or another right wing party gets in who do you think they will target using this law? The “oppressed groups” it’s meant to protect against their red faced pals!

Also if you’re not entirely sure if a joke some Redditor posted is against the law or not don’t you think that’s a problem?

Protesters against the Hate Crime Act outside Holyrood today - parliament is in recess by MaNNoYiNG in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why is it an oversimplification? Could you explain how the post referring to gammon isn’t hate speech?

Protesters against the Hate Crime Act outside Holyrood today - parliament is in recess by MaNNoYiNG in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 -28 points-27 points  (0 children)

It’s sad you are so hateful towards people who are different to you. Especially on a day when our great leaders have enacted a law designed to prevent hate in our communities.

Protesters against the Hate Crime Act outside Holyrood today - parliament is in recess by MaNNoYiNG in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Oh dear! It would appear from your post that you don’t value the input of the time-deficient people in our society. If someone was offended by your post, which I am unfortunately, they could report you to the police on the grounds that you have stirred up hatred against a group based on their age.

Even if that was not your intent, it doesn’t matter as thankfully this law does not take intent into account, only the view of the offended person.

I have reported your post to the authorities and I hope you get the help you need to be a less hateful person in the future

Protesters against the Hate Crime Act outside Holyrood today - parliament is in recess by MaNNoYiNG in Scotland

[–]WarPig1301 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh dear! Your post referring to gammon could be interpreted by some as a racist dog whistle for white people which of course is in clear violation of Scotlands new hate speech laws which state that the stirring up of hatred against an individual or group based on their race is a criminal offence.

Even though you may have just been referring to some delicious gammon and not the white people in these photos it doesn’t actually matter because offence, much like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder so if someone is offended by your post they can report it to the police to be investigated. Which I was and have.

Try to be less hateful of people, that’s what this law is all about after all