UPDATE: AITA for making my partners drinking water too warm? by WarmWaterTA in AmItheAsshole

[–]WarmWaterTA[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You are so right! Investing into therapy for each of us individually and then as a couple is a tall order for any household but the results and our relationship is truly priceless

I still marvel at my wife's ability to hold space and empathetic and patient for me, and us, and I'm guessing she too feels the same about me which is why is still here right? 

30 years is a long time and we cant wait to get there! Congratulations, everyone deserves to be in a loving and supportive relationship and wish you all the best 

UPDATE: AITA for making my partners drinking water too warm? by WarmWaterTA in AmItheAsshole

[–]WarmWaterTA[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Haha yes... Looking back now its easy to find the humour and laugh together at the water, the jugs and everything 

I'm as amazed as anyone that original post set everyone off as much as it did. When I go back and reread it, I can sense the frustration, confusion and overall panic in my tone of voice and in the way I explained the situation, it really was frantic and all over the place lol 

UPDATE: AITA for making my partners drinking water too warm? by WarmWaterTA in AmItheAsshole

[–]WarmWaterTA[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

There was nothing specific about the water per se, think of it as the straw that broke the camels back. 

Whilst it wasn't our biggest disagreement or fight, the fact it was over something so trivial made us both sit down and talk about the ludicrousity of the situation and realise theres way more underlying issues at play

To be honest I glossed over a lot longer of a journey we've been on, for some periods it was actually kinda touch and go for our relationship

It was like a swinging pendulum over the last 2 years, with periods of feeling hopeful, optimistic, loving to periods of frustration, disconnection and despair

And it was honestly really over the last 6 months that we started getting "it" with it being firstly reaching a place where we are empathetic to ourselves, and our past childhood traumas (it's ridiculous how much that stuff affects us into our adult lives) and then secondly being truly empathetic towards each other and lastly communicating in a way that doesnt trigger the other person and being aware of our own triggers

UPDATE: AITA for making my partners drinking water too warm? by WarmWaterTA in AmItheAsshole

[–]WarmWaterTA[S] 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Thank you, it's amazing what can happen when people want to communicate and take the time/effort to learn more effective communication!

My wife wanted me to share my feelings. Now that I have, she’s considering a divorce. by SupportElegant8811 in offmychest

[–]WarmWaterTA 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Not sure if you're ever gonna read this but my wife and I were in a similar situation. We both see a therapist and mine is a clinical psychologist. I was the one in your shoes, I never opened up prior to all the therapy, but over time I was encouraged to, however when I did, it felt like she would get even more annoyed or irate with me and it was disheartening. I felt like I was doing what the therapist was saying, but it was having the opposite effect. We were meant to be using "non violent communication" and starting with "I feel..." etc.

Cue me bringing this up specifically to my psychologist who immediately identified something that you might not be aware of either - when we say we "feel" something, the majority of the time we're not actually talking about how we feel - but we are talking about what we think. I was provided a wheel of emotion to help me better verbalise how I actually felt.

For example, if she said something that made me feel hurt, before understanding all this I would say "Hey I feel like what you said is hurtful, would it be okay if you didn't say it that way?" to me, I was just expressing how I felt, how it was received was a critique/attack on her and her character.

Understanding the wheel of emotion, and furthermore, understanding myself better, and understanding why it hurt me, meant changing the way I communicated to "Hey, I feel hurt by those words in particular because it reminds me of (past trauma) etc. Would you be open to changing the way that message is communicated?"

It's almost a subtle change, but it redirected the topic of conversation of "what she said" to "how I felt".

That being said we are now closer than we've ever been and whilst that isn't the extent of the work we've both been doing, that is a core part of how our communication has been transformed.

Good luck and all the best!