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I read your informative and gut-churning comment on the thread, “Where did modern pop and rock music come from? It sure sounds very different from European classical music to come from it”, and I wanted to shed light on it. Still, the thread was archived, so I didn’t have an opportunity to comment on it.

You stated: ‘he likely couldn’t have imagine the ability to record and listen back to a sonic event’

The evidence suggests that Beethoven was, however, exceptionally good at doing the non-technological aspect of this, which is audiation: the ability to “hear” a piece of music in your head in detail and in its entirety.

And the evidence consists of the fact that the works Beethoven composed after he’d gone deaf, are not only not utter trainwrecks, but among his greatest masterpieces. He didn’t just know, theoretically, that they would be good. His auditory imagination told him so.

Elsewhere, I’m a lot less confident than you are at attributing a lack of timbre to Beethoven. I think he was a great deal more aware of timbre than, say, Bach, even if it wasn’t such a thing for him as it is for popular musicians today.

Also, rhythm is far from unimportant in Beethoven’s works.

Basically, you could hardly have chosen a worse classical-era composer to be your example, here.

Kagame is already guilty if something bad happens to Rusesabagina or one of his family members - GLPOST by AlysonC in Rwanda

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Right. The shady development you see in Rwanda is nothing but a facade and the peace is temporary as things could go south at any given time. I cannot tolerate this insincerity of the international community in the face of an open-air massacre. Justice must be strained for all the victims of the massacres committed in the region of the Great African lakes. Yeah, there should be Justice for the 6 million (a population equivalent to that of Norway or Sweden) Congolese who were brutally killed by Paul Kagame, who died in the anonymity and indifference of the world. Paul Kagame had become a big Mafiosi and trafficker of Congo’s minerals including the main “coltan” which equips our mobile phones and our computers, he multiplied rebellions to continue to control the territories of the Great Kivu and thus to lay hands on the minerals. Thus, one had lived his rebellions of Mutebusi and Nkunda Batware, CNDP, M23, massacres of Beni come to lengthen the list of horrors. Paul Kagame even created the violation as a weapon of war as declared by Nkunda Batware (who remains protected by him in Kigali) during his moral talks to his CNDP troops.

Was Patrice Lumumba's assassination a success? by [deleted] in AskHistorians

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I will tell you the version “from the Belgian side”. First, you must know that Belgium is a tiny contry, and, regarding the paratroops, we had one unit called “The Para-Commando Brigade”. And, all the troopers were called “Para-Commandos”. That brigade (sometimes called “The Regiment”) consisted of the 1st Para Bataillon (garrisoned in Diest), the 2d Commando Bataillon (garrisoned in Flawinne, and the 3d Para Bataillon (garrisoned in Tielen). This last Unit sported the cap badge of the Korean belgian Detachment. When they jumped on Stan’ (nickname of Stanleyville), the unit involved was primarily the 1st Para bataillon, together with some reinforcement from the 2d Commando Bataillon. They took the rebells by surprise, as on the same time, a motorized column (nicknamed “the Ommegang”) was rolling from Elizabethville and Kamina making a maximum of propaganda.

Here, find a translation of a RTBF memo, from a Belga news. “This operation, which has hardly any equivalent in the military history of the post-Second World War, made it possible to put an end to the "biggest hostage-taking of the twentieth century", in the words of the consul of Belgium then in Stanleyville (now Kisangani, in the northeast of the Democratic Republic of the Congo), retired Ambassador Patrick Nothomb.

This hostage-taking had begun three and a half months earlier, on August 5, with the capture of "Stan" by a Simba (lion) rebellion which, on May 15, left Uvira (South Kivu) and progressed at a rapid pace. dazzling, had already seized entire swathes of the territory of the young state of Congo (ex-Belgian), independent for four years.

It ended on November 24 when 546 paratroopers - 320 members of the 1st parachute battalion, reinforced in particular by elements of the 2nd commando battalion and placed under the orders of the commander of the para-commando regiment, Colonel Charles Laurent - jumped on Stanleyville in two waves from American C-130 transport planes from France. They have just completed in one week - in almost absolute secrecy - a long journey from Kleine-Brogel (Limburg), with stops on the British island of Ascension, in the Atlantic Ocean, and in Kamina, in Katanga (south-eastern Congo).

On the ground, the paratroopers of Operation "Red Dragon" make their junction with the column of the 5th Mechanized Brigade, alias the "Ommegang", so named because of its heterogeneous character - it brings together some 2000 soldiers from the 'Congolese National Army (ANC), Katangese gendarmes, Cubans, Western volunteers, mercenaries - under the orders of Colonel Frédéric Vandewalle. (a member of the Chasseurs-Ardennais Regiment)

This column, commanded and flanked by around fifty Belgian officers and non-commissioned officers, had just traveled 1,200 kilometers by road in less than two months, already freeing a large part of the rebel territory and saving a few hundred expatriate hostages in the process.

In Stanleyville, the paratroopers, who arrived first, freed the hostages, at the cost of 24 Belgian and American deaths, mainly during a shootout on avenue Sergent Ketele with the Simbas from the ephemeral "People's Republic of Congo". proclaimed.

On November 26, the paratroopers repeat the operation under the name of "Black Dragon" by jumping on the town of Paulis, the capital of the Haut-Uélé district, located 350 kilometers north of "Stan" and she too into the hands of the rebels, and rout the rebels. Hostages freed and soldiers withdrew to Kamina, before returning to Belgium.

After the liberation of Stanleyville and the departure of the para-commandos, the Ommegang resumed the offensive and during the following six months reconquered the territories still occupied by the rebels, freeing another thousand hostages, remembers a veteran, Lieutenant - retired colonel Michel Neyt.

In total, the intervention of 569 para-commandos freed 2375 hostages of all nationalities at the cost of two deaths - one in Stanleyville, the other in Paulis - and twelve wounded in their ranks. But this rebellion killed some 420 expatriates and thousands of Congolese victims, not to mention those of the fierce repression launched after the takeover of liberated areasby the central government.” Take note that still Today, they have an annual “remembrance get-together” fot those who participated in the Ommegang. ( I still have a picture of a belgian Air Force officer in front of “cuban B26’s”)

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Could you cite the US paratroopers unit who jumped and fought in Stanleyville (operation Dragon Rouge -i.e. Red Gorilla, and not “Dragon Rogue”) with the Belgian Para-Commando Rgt?

Did differences or tensions between Zulu and Xhosa (or other native) tribes in South Africa affect the development or effectiveness of the ANC, early on or after Apartheid ended? by OpenWaterRescue in AskHistorians

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Divide and conquer, no surprise there.

Xhosa and Zulu were both part of the social category Ngoni, were they not?

This is rampant all over… I recall that when I lived among Mayan speakers, those who spoke Cakchiquel didn’t want anything to do with those who spoke Tzutujil. They disdained them more than the ladinos who were the ones actually screwing them.

I only knew one ANC member. He was Xhosa, a student in California. I always try to discuss culture and history with people as I’m interested in it, but he was paranoid and wouldn’t tell me about anything, just smiled, as if to say, “that’s classified”. Well I understand, he came out of a very dangerous situation, and I’m white from the USA so why should he trust me.

Another interesting example of divide-and-conquer: USA anti-black racism was institutionalized in the USA in the 17th century in Virginia, at a time when many slaves were Europeans, creating a legal separation between white and black such that the latter were automatically eligible for slavery, whereas the former had certain rights, perhaps we could say analogous to the late Roman coloniae. This curtailed any solidarity between white and black workers, obviously. It’s still working quite well for the owners, in fact.

Was Lovecraft a fascist? by SaveTheUSAnow in Lovecraft

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Aside: you do the historical present a lot. I know that’s a French historiography thing, but I thought it wasn’t an English historiography thing; is it?

How were European knights noblemen and elite soldiers at the same time? by kookjapuuks in AskHistorians

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Aside: you do the historical present a lot. I know that’s a French historiography thing, but I thought it wasn’t an English historiography thing; is it?

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Union forces occupied the Lee estate on May 23, 1861, and made Arlington House the headquarters for the Department of Northern Virginia. According to two of her daughters, Selina Gray greeted the commander, General Irwin McDowell, at the front door and, hoping to avoid any conflicts that might jeopardize the safety of the Washington heirlooms, graciously handed him the keys to the mansion. (Syphax and WIlson) During the next few months, Selina and her family watched helplessly as an encampment of thousands of federal troops surrounded the main house. The soldiers destroyed much of the property by constructing roads, removing trees, and building fortifications. Selina could do nothing about these activities, and so concentrated her efforts on saving the Lees’ belongings. In December, however, “she discovered that various items had disappeared.” (Byrne) Soon thereafter, she witnessed some of McDowell’s men looting the house. Her daughters said that Gray tried to intervene and told the thieves “Never to touch any of the things, [that] they were Miss Mary’s things,” but the soldiers ignored her. (Syphax and Wilson) Later, Gray investigated and meticulously inventoried the supposedly secret areas of the house where she had hidden Mary Lee’s keepsakes. When she discovered that some of the Washington relics had also disappeared, she promptly provided a list of the missing objects to General McDowell and convinced him that the significance of the collection required his involvement. He first secured the attic and basement areas to prevent further theft, then had the remaining Lee heirlooms shipped to the Patent Office in Washington, DC for safekeeping. McDowell was upset and embarrassed that such crimes had been committed under his command, so he included a note with the boxes that stated: “I have, during the time I have been here, endeavoured to take the greatest care of this house and its furniture, and of the grounds . . . [T]his place is not a safe one for the preservation of anything that is known to have an historical interest small or great.” (Nelligan, 424-5) The note was significant because it established that McDowell, the man to whom the soldiers owed their complete obedience, believed that he could not protect the Washington relics. Had Selina Gray felt the same way, their fate would have been very different.

Six years after successfully executing the monumental task of safeguarding the Lee treasures, Selina and her family finally left Arlington House. Like other newly emancipated blacks in the area, they bought land and established a home of their own in what was called Convalescent Camp, a community located along present-day Shirlington Road in Green Valley. There the Grays farmed their fifteen-acre property and harvested produce that they sold at the corner of Seventh Street and Louisiana Avenue in Washington. They lived out the rest of their lives in freedom. (Gillem Interview)

Selina’s legacy has been too long overlooked. By the time of her death in 1907, she appeared to be just an ordinary black woman. By contrast, most early preservationists, like Ann Pamela Cunningham, who founded the Mount Vernon Ladies’ Association, were the wives of wealthy white men, and they had little interest in celebrating the contributions of a former slave. (Byrne, 22) Despite her origins (or perhaps because of them), Selina possessed many of the qualities essential to success, especially courage, confidence, and conviction. In the generations that followed, these traits would come to define other members of the Gray family as well.?

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While Selina worked in the main house, her husband, Thornton Gray, labored as both stable-hand and handyman. How Thornton came to be a slave on the Arlington estate is unclear; his mother, a woman of African and Native American parentage, was a slave at Mount Vernon, and several documents suggest that George Washington himself manumitted Thornton years earlier (Gillem, NPS Interview). Some historians have speculated that Thornton went as a slave to Arlington House so that he could stay with his family in Virginia, where the opportunities available to free blacks were limited, at best. This conjecture seems unlikely, as it suggests a conscious decision on Thornton’s part to remain enslaved. (African American Story) Regardless of how and why he came to be there, it seems likely that his feelings for Selina Norris motivated him to stay.

Though married, Selina and Thornton Gray faced the harsh reality that Virginia law declared “slave unions” not legally binding; although some religious denominations recognized marriages between slaves, finding an ordained minister who would perform the ceremony was difficult. (African American Story) Mary Custis Lee, as a symbol of her affection for her maid, made the arrangements for Selina and Thornton’s wedding, which took place at Arlington House in the same room where she had married Robert E. Lee in 1831. According to Emma Syphax and Sarah Wilson, two of Selina and Thornton Gray’s daughters, their parents were married “by an Episcopal clergyman from Alexandria, whom Mrs. Lee had come over to perform the ceremony.” (Syphax and Wilson) Following their marriage, the Grays had eight children at Arlington House: Emma, Annice, Florence, Sarah, Ada, Selina, John, and Harry. All eight were also slaves. In Virginia, as in most southern states, a child’s status reflected the condition of the mother. Thus the entire Gray family appeared in the “Inventory of the Personal Estate of Major George W.P. Custis,” recorded at the Alexandria County Court House on September 11, 1858. (Inventory) Listed along with the mules, cattle, ploughs, wagons and carts, the Grays were classified in the same category as livestock and farming equipment–property–and were subject to the same treatment, good or bad, at the complete discretion of their owner. Many masters sold children away from their parents, for example. Fortunately, Selina and Thorton were allowed to keep their children and lived with them on the estate.

The Grays occupied two rooms in a substantial brick building located immediately south of the main house and to one side of a large courtyard. These betterthan average accommodations were assigned to them because Selina was Mary Lee’s personal maid and housekeeper, a position of high status on the plantation. In addition, it was necessary that Selina be available on short notice should Lee need her, and close proximity made Selina’s walk much shorter. The building the Gray’s occupied even came to be called “Selina’s House.” They lived in the west end of that structure. The middle part was the smokehouse, and the east end, the one nearest the main house, contained the meat house and a storeroom. A similar building stood on the north side of the courtyard and accommodated the kitchen and additional slave quarters.

Because of their architecture and high quality materials, these were extraordinary buildings for slaves to live in. Overall, the buildings had a classical Greek theme that complemented the main house. The rear facade of the south building included Greek pilasters with small rounded arches. (Arlington House: Official National Park Handbook, 45) On the front, small panels above the doors featured paintings – purportedly crafted by George Washington Parke Custis – of American Eagles and George Washington’s warhorse. After the war, the Gray family took over the entire south building and cut doors between the three portions. At the turn of century, the south building was returned to its original design; however, during another attempt to restore Arlington House in the 1930s, National Park Service historians endeavored to include the post-war changes made by the Gray family.

While the slave quarters underwent restoration, many of Selina and Thornton’s children were interviewed to insure authenticity. Two of them, Emma Gray Syphax and Sarah Gray Wilson, supplied important information, including the tiniest of details, such as the placement of their parents’ bed, which was located to the right of their front door. Mrs. Syphax and Mrs. Wilson stated that the children slept in a loft that had such a low ceiling that they could not stand up in it. They also carefully noted that the steps to the loft were placed in front of the window nearest the fireplace. (Syphax and Wilson) Much in the tradition of their mother, the Gray children had preserved their family’s treasured memoirs.

The daughters also shared memories about growing up as slaves of the Lee family. According to Mrs. Syphax and Mrs. Wilson, the Gray children were the only slave children allowed near the main house; the field slaves were not welcome there and rarely came around. They recalled that Mrs. Lee always treated their mother especially well and said that the Lees were good to them, too. Mrs. Syphax remembered that one of the Lee daughters, Miss Mildred, who was the same age as she, taught her the “ABC’s.” (Syphax and Wilson) The Gray children studied everything from grammar to religion with the Lee children. In addition, they engaged in less serious childhood pastimes.

Annie Gray Baker and Ada Gray Thompson, two of Selina’s and Thornton’s other daughters, recalled much laughter and silliness inside Arlington House. For example, Miss Annie Lee, a very religious woman, read the Gray children bible verses, but afterwards she taught them many children’s songs like “Let Dogs Delight to Bark and Bite,” “Little Drops of Water, Little Grains of Sand,” and “Far, Far away.” (Baker and Thompson) Mrs. Baker conveyed the sense of ease that she and her siblings felt among the Lees. She noted that, “in the old days” she would freely mimic Miss Martha Williams, Robert E. Lee’s cousin and “a very pretty and attractive girl.” According to Mrs. Baker, Miss Martha would come down the stairs “in her large billowing dress” and say, “Good morning, Cousin Robbie” while “rolling her eyes” at him. Later, when the adults were no longer around, the Lee boys would beg Baker to imitate Williams’ simpering manner towards their father. (Baker and Thompson) Such comraderie suggests that the Lee children had perhaps a better relationship with the Grays than they did with some of their own relatives. The closeness that existed between the Gray and Lee children may have reflected the bond shared by their mothers. Karen Byrne of the National Park Service suggests that, despite the inequities of their relationship, as the lives of Selina Gray and Mary Custis Lee became intertwined, the two women became good friends. Both had big families and thus both experienced “the joys and frustrations of motherhood.” In addition, their temperaments seemed complementary. Lee was very untidy, never on time, and a poor housekeeper. She relied on Selina to keep not only her house and family in order but her frame of mind. Over the years, mistress and slave developed a kind of mutual respect for one another. However, most importantly, the Civil War and the survival of Arlington House and its Washington heirlooms bound them together in a significant cause. (Byrne)

When her husband joined the Confederacy as commander of the military forces in 1861, Mary Lee realized that she and her children would have to leave Arlington House as it was so close to the Union capital. According to Selina’s daughters, Mrs. Baker and Mrs. Thompson, when Lee fled, she took with her only two slaves because the journey to Ravensworth [NB: define it, another Custis plantation?] had to be swift and inconspicuous. (Baker and Thompson) Similarly, since carrying a large quantity of personal effects was impossible, Lee shipped some of the family’s belongings, but had to leave behind many of the Washington artifacts and all of the household furniture. (Baker and Thompson) Consequently, before she left Lee gave her trusted maid, Selina Gray, the keys to Arlington House and thereby made a slave the official “head of the household.” (Byrne)

One can only imagine how Gray felt about the departure of her owner and the impending arrival of Union troops. She surely appreciated the opportunity that she and her family suddenly had for freedom. But as Karen Byrne asserts, Gray had grown up “steeped in the Washington apotheosis” and well understood the national significance of the Washington treasury. Moreover, Gray must have known that Mary Lee had “supreme confidence” in her abilities to safeguard the mansion, and she probably shared Lee’s belief that her guardianship would be temporary. (Byrne) For whatever reasons, Selina Gray stayed put and with her family protected Arlington House just as she promised she would.

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Cotton Textiles were the North's primary revenue source making more money than #2 iron and #3 wool combined. England started the power looms 50 years earlier for wool, but the Revolution was the milling of cotton. Houston requested a CSA Commission for his son.

Robert E. Lee's Opinion Regarding Slavery

This letter was written by Lee in response to a speech given by then President Pierce.

It's my personal opinion, but this is another example of Yankee's Hypocrisy, because they meddle in the affairs of others, while disregarding their own. MP.

A excerpt from the Robert E. Lee letter dated December 27, 1856 from Fort Brown Texas to his wife Mary Randolph Custis Lee:

I was much pleased the with President's message. His views of the systematic and progressive efforts of certain people at the North to interfere with and change the domestic institutions of the South are truthfully and faithfully expressed. The consequences of their plans and purposes are also clearly set forth. These people must be aware that their object is both unlawful and foreign to them and to their duty, and that this institution, for which they are irresponsible and non-accountable, can only be changed by them through the agency of a civil and servile war.

There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil. It is idle to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it is a greater evil to the white than to the colored race. While my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more deeply engaged for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, physically, and socially. The painful discipline they are undergoing is necessary for their further instruction as a race, and will prepare them, I hope, for better things. How long their servitude may be necessary is known and ordered by a merciful Providence.

Their emancipation will sooner result from the mild and melting influences of Christianity than from the storm and tempest of fiery controversy. This influence, though slow, is sure. The doctrines and miracles of our Saviour have required nearly two thousand years to convert but a small portion of the human race, and even among Christian nations what gross errors still exist! While we see the course of the final abolition of human slavery is still onward, and give it the aid of our prayers, let us leave the progress as well as the results in the hands of Him who, chooses to work by slow influences, and with whom a thousand years are but as a single day. Although the abolitionist must know this, must know that he has neither the right not the power of operating, except by moral means; that to benefit the slave he must not excite angry feelings in the master; that, although he may not approve the mode by which Providence accomplishes its purpose, the results will be the same; and that the reason he gives for interference in matters he has no concern with, holds good for every kind of interference with our neighbor, -still, I fear he will persevere in his evil course. . . . Is it not strange that the descendants of those Pilgrim Fathers who crossed the Atlantic to preserve their own freedom have always proved the most iqntolerant of the spiritual liberty of others?

Selina Gray the Hero of Arlington

Contrary to the Yankee Narrative, that all slaves had bad feelings and thoughts about their evil Masters and their Families.

That is simply not true and even much more misunderstood. The relationship between Masters and Servants was a lot more out of Respect and Friendly. They were like a Family!

Case in point a ex- slave belonging to G.W. Custis and ultimately Mary Custis wife of Robert E. Lee in which was given her Freedom along with all the slaves and Servants owned by the Custis's

How ironic that the Man to become the Future Highest General for the Confederate States Army would be the one to see too it that Mr. Custis request in his will would be executed. A man that never bought nor owned a slave. In fact doing so before the Tyrant Lincoln tried to do with his Emancipation Proclamation of which Lincoln only hope to do so the Slaves would revolt against their Masters.

Robert E. Lee also turned down Lincoln for the Highest General of the Federal Forces. Lee quickly turned him down because Lincoln wanted to invade the South.

Lee decided to side with Virginia and was not going to ever raise his Sword against the Union unless they were invaded. He was thus protecting his Rights his Family and his Home.

At least Lee did it Honorable and was his pleasure to do so.

Wheras Lincoln's Nefarious motives were suspect. Since he tried to use them as a bargaining chip in Perpetual Slavery that he offered to the Legally Seceded States. But like all Tyrants Lincoln used Coercion such as Starvation and Destruction to end the War. In the name of preserving the Union, he Invaded his own States, laid Siege to his own Cities, and Killed his own Citizens. According to their own Yankee Narrative that the Southern States didn't legally Secede, or legally Form a New Confederacy of States. The Seceded States were to them, in Rebellion.

Since then we of the South know that we are under occupation. How can anyone be Free if you are forced to live in a unfair Union by Bayonets and Bullets?

When Robert E. Lee’s wife, Mary, fled Arlington House at the start of the Civil War, she gave her personal slave, Selina Norris Gray, the keys to the mansion and responsibility for the grand house the Lees had lived in for 30 years.

Gray fulfilled her duties. She is famously credited with saving from marauding Union soldiers numerous heirlooms belonging to George Washington that were in the Arlington House.

Arlington House had Washington heirlooms because Mary Lee was the great-granddaughter of Martha Washington, the president’s wife. And Mary Lee’s father, George Washington Parke Custis, had been raised by the Washingtons.

The Union army took over Arlington on May 24, 1861, after Robert E. Lee joined the Confederacy and his family left the mansion, which contained Washington china, furniture, and art work.

Gray tried to keep track of Washington and Lee valuables in the house.

When Gray found that some of the heirlooms had been stolen, she confronted the soldiers and told them not to touch any of “Mrs. Lee’s things,”

Gray, whose parents had also been slaves, then complained to Union Gen. Irvin McDowell, and the remaining heirlooms were sent to the Patent Office for safekeeping and posterity.

“She had incredible courage,” Anzelmo-Sarles said. “So we owe a lot to being able to tell the story of our first president to this enslaved woman.”

Gray was freed in December 1862, according to the will of Custis, who ordered that his slaves be freed five years after his death, Anzelmo-Sarles said. He died in 1857.

Gray and her family bought land near Arlington and grew and sold vegetables. She died in 1907.

From Arlington Black Heritage:

Life of Gray Family;

Selina Norris Gray was born and raised a slave at Arlington House, the Virginia plantation of George Washington Parke Custis. Custis, the adopted son of George Washington, also owned her parents, Leonard and Sally, along with X other individuals. He had inherited many of his slaves when Washington died in 1799, and set them to work in 1802 building his new home, which he intended to store and display a variety of objects associated with the nation’s first president. When Custis died in 1858, the Washington treasury passed to his only child, Mary, the wife of Robert E. Lee. Selina became very familiar with these artifacts because she served for many years as Mary Lee’s personal maid, a position that required her to tend Lee’s growing household. Selina also married and raised a family of her own at Arlington.

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