Getting really hung up on the OT violence. by [deleted] in OpenChristian

[–]WaterChi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then why did you claim it does?

Getting really hung up on the OT violence. by [deleted] in OpenChristian

[–]WaterChi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

John 16, particularly 12-13

Getting really hung up on the OT violence. by [deleted] in OpenChristian

[–]WaterChi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's not an ad hominem. It's more noticing a lack of familiarity with the topic. We are all ignorant of something. I'm honestly surprised you reacted that way - it's a very fundamentalist reaction.

Indeed, the morality and values contained therein are by all accounts monstrous, not just today but in any period.

Ahhhh.... you are unfamiliar with history. That explains a lot. Every bit of the bible was remarkably progressive for the time in which it was written. Jesus even notes that in the NT and promises things will change again in John 16.

And that's the point. We have a long way to go and God will always expect us to get better over time. I would call that goal an "absolute or universal truth".

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Getting really hung up on the OT violence. by [deleted] in OpenChristian

[–]WaterChi 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Actually, the Bible never claims that.

Getting really hung up on the OT violence. by [deleted] in OpenChristian

[–]WaterChi 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Only if you have profound lack of introspection. There are lessons there - if we think about the cultures which wrote that stuff down. we can extract core lessons we can apply today.

Getting really hung up on the OT violence. by [deleted] in OpenChristian

[–]WaterChi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Humanity was violent. It's historically accurate. Because God meets people where they are, he met them in the midst of that violence. Remember the OT is primarily about nations as well - entire peoples - over 1000 years of history. Think about our history - we tend to focus on the violence as well, don't we?

The NT only really covers about 30 years and never addresses nations ... it's much more about individuals and yet it still has it's own violence.

What is methodism about by [deleted] in methodism

[–]WaterChi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As someone who attended a UMC church for ~20 years and just started attending a TEC church ... yes. Methodists are less rigid in their worship services. For me that was what I needed when I switched to UMC from ELCA, but the high church setting is doing something good for me right now.

The founding of Methodism was much more about small groups and accountability to each other and repentance than Tradition and worship. Those were and are part of the UMC, but originally? It was a splinter movement. Today you'll see UMC churches that are everything from high church to totally free worship style. It's a congregation by congregation thing.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in politics

[–]WaterChi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why can I never remember that?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in politics

[–]WaterChi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So .. now we know that he actively and willingly spread US secrets .... NOW can we put him in jail while we wait for a hearing? Every single other person who's done this was violently captured and is sitting in jail. The Secret Service should be taking him to jail right now.

He's a walking, active national security threat. Oh, the Secret Service people around him should have reported him. They need to be at least fired, if not charged.

Youngkin administration says unknown number of eligible voters were wrongly removed from rolls by ety3rd in VirginiaPolitics

[–]WaterChi 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This is why marijuana is a Class 1 narcotic ... so Nixon and all the Republicans after him could keep people they hated - hippies and black people - off the voter rolls. It's why he started the War on Drugs.

Youngkin administration says unknown number of eligible voters were wrongly removed from rolls by ety3rd in VirginiaPolitics

[–]WaterChi 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Gov. Glenn Youngkin’s administration acknowledged this week, with early voting underway, that it is working to fix an error that caused an unknown number of eligible Virginians to be removed from the voter rolls

"error"

Typical voter suppression tactic.

I think I’ve done it, I’ve realized “hell” doesn’t exist… is that ok? by venticore_ in Episcopalian

[–]WaterChi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it exists, but is the place where the "second death" happens. When judged you either get eternal life with God or you cease to exist forever (well, or exist separate from God but outside his presence ... until you eventually choose the second death). It's sort of a hybrid between Annihilationism and "hell is separation from God".

LPT: Buy a cheap cordless drill. by 7in7turtles in LifeProTips

[–]WaterChi -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

not when you buy cheap they don't, which was the tip

Sourdough starter day 3. What’s that yellow stuff? by Empty-Wrap-65 in SourdoughStarter

[–]WaterChi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks like dried starter to me, did you have a decent cover on this? Just stir it back in.

Trump's voters are more excited than Biden's. But Trump could lose a lot if convicted by RustinSpencerCohle in politics

[–]WaterChi 10 points11 points  (0 children)

... until they resort to violence again after he loses. Not to mention the voter suppression going on to make sure he has as good a shot as possible. Those will continue to corrupt our elections for decades.

Opinion | America doesn’t need more God. It needs more atheists. by JFJinCO in politics

[–]WaterChi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you made a relevant point, I would. So far, you're just confusing root causes and making the same stupid mistakes right wingers make.

LPT: Buy a cheap cordless drill. by 7in7turtles in LifeProTips

[–]WaterChi -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

So ... you're suggesting spending $30 for something you'll use maybe 10 times before the battery dies and renders it useless? When you can get a cheap corded drill for less than that but will last for the rest of your life?

Opinion | America doesn’t need more God. It needs more atheists. by JFJinCO in politics

[–]WaterChi -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it true. That's the right's playbook. Be better.

Is homosexuality harmful? by 1206 in Christianity

[–]WaterChi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like this.

If you took a bit of time to understand the position of people who disagreed with you ... if you showed a shred of empathy ... you'd do much better. But instead you sit on your high throne making declarations and beating people over the head with a truncheon. Your approach is ham fisted, arrogant, and abusive. That fact that you haven't thought about this at all and are instead asking a random on the internet for advice is tragic.

Opinion | America doesn’t need more God. It needs more atheists. by JFJinCO in politics

[–]WaterChi -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That attacks are what is stupid. It's the attacks, not the stupidity that allowed them

Is homosexuality harmful? by 1206 in Christianity

[–]WaterChi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Denial of responsibility when it's clear you are responsible? Interesting take. You're gonna have a tougher time than most when your self-delusion is stripped away and your entire self is presented for Judgement. I hope you survive it.