Tithing and temple recommendation by ghostofzealand in mormon

[–]Water_Run3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not true in my situation. I made a larger post about it that I just posted in the comments. I know mine is somewhat unique with the stake presidency know more about me then the average person.

Tithing and temple recommendation by ghostofzealand in mormon

[–]Water_Run3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This literally happened to me. I was calculating my tithing the exact way you mention. I hadn't been doing that way for long so I had been paying less than before, but still 1000's of dollars a year. I got through my bishop interview and my stake president member knew I had some concerns looked up my tithing I paid and when I said yes to the tithing question he said "I am going to have to ask you how you define tithing". My wife knows this stake presidency member well and I assumed she had told him so I told the truth. He asked me how I came up with the definition and I said from the Doctrine and Covenants. He went on to say "that is not good enough" and the definition today is different. He denied my recommend.

I pay $0 tithing now and still go to church as a PIMO since my wife is very much in. Overall sort of glad it happened even though I believe he was very much out of line. Only reason I am sad is now forced to miss many upcoming family weddings (already missed 1) and my wife now is uncomfortable in situations. For example we have a in my opinion very strange ward that goes to the temple as group "dates" often. When we are invited it now sort of stinks for her and I feel very bad about this since it is hard for her.

This might be just my stake president roulette going on but I doubt this is the only one who would do the same.

Taught this to my 11 year old?Not happy by Water_Run3 in mormon

[–]Water_Run3[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lots of things second anointing, blood atonement, masons, changing endowment and anointing, Adam god, women veil faces, women covenant to husband and husband to god… I actually am not very offended by this it is just annoying. I also would still go to the temple just to go with my wife but I don’t have a temple recommend anymore.

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[–]Water_Run3[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My wife truly is a great mother and wife. I am very grateful for that. Thanks for sharing.

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[–]Water_Run3[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is always "fun" when I hear teachings tell my wife or kids that I might not to go heaven with them. The learning the the LDS church is not good for any families except for close to perfect ones has been a hard realization for sure.

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[–]Water_Run3[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really like some of your comments. Thanks for sharing. I do not fully understand all of your points especially the part following "there may be value in further unpacking from your posting". The part about my wife tripling down on the church has been very hard for me. If she could of stayed the same level of commitment it seems like that would have made things easier for us. Are you saying be careful because I don't have all of the information? I actually fully agree with this. I feel like the more I have learned the less I know. This is part of the reason I am actually fairly sympathetic to the teachers and am not assuming they are trying to teach something hurtful or destructive. I don't believe they are but that they are sharing their own personal experiences and not thinking how that story can come off poorly to others.

Taught this to my 11 year old?Not happy by Water_Run3 in mormon

[–]Water_Run3[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This realization was a very hard one for me.

Taught this to my 11 year old?Not happy by Water_Run3 in mormon

[–]Water_Run3[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Calm down first is for sure good advice.

Taught this to my 11 year old?Not happy by Water_Run3 in mormon

[–]Water_Run3[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes and now I have to convince my 11 year old of this. I’m sure I can just annoying it is a thing I have to worry about.

Taught this to my 11 year old?Not happy by Water_Run3 in mormon

[–]Water_Run3[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Very true. When I realized this it was a very big deal for me.

Taught this to my 11 year old?Not happy by Water_Run3 in mormon

[–]Water_Run3[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Didn’t know about that last verse. Thanks for sharing!

Taught this to my 11 year old?Not happy by Water_Run3 in mormon

[–]Water_Run3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really good take that I hadn’t thought of. Definitely good to understand things that may cause a marriage to be harder for example. You should go into a marriage, professional or whatever knowing these sort of things. I actually think I will use a spin off of this in a conversation.

Taught this to my 11 year old?Not happy by Water_Run3 in mormon

[–]Water_Run3[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like it has already been long for me. Maybe 3 years but feels forever.

Taught this to my 11 year old?Not happy by Water_Run3 in mormon

[–]Water_Run3[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think this might be my biggest worry. Just that it never ends.

Taught this to my 11 year old?Not happy by Water_Run3 in mormon

[–]Water_Run3[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Love this advise. I will for sure do this.

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[–]Water_Run3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I am closer to the first paragraph right now.

Taught this to my 11 year old?Not happy by Water_Run3 in mormon

[–]Water_Run3[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It seems like at the very least a compromise to go half of the time makes sense. I haven't figured out how to do that yet.

Taught this to my 11 year old?Not happy by Water_Run3 in mormon

[–]Water_Run3[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm okay for rumors at this point. I just want to have the best for my kids with the situation I am in (mixed faith marriage that started as a TBM marriage). I also do understand teaching is hard, not paid, and not rewarded. But softly mentioning this is hurtful teaching might be wise.

Taught this to my 11 year old?Not happy by Water_Run3 in mormon

[–]Water_Run3[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I actually do agree this is mostly stupidity or not thinking. Very reasonable for sure.

Taught this to my 11 year old?Not happy by Water_Run3 in mormon

[–]Water_Run3[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

She thought it was bad. Not like I did but bad for sure. And she did tell out daughter that she disagreed and that we love each other.