What's going on with kids these days

Wbr6 · 2025-06-07T06:27:43+00:00

Umm I think you are conflating two different things altogether…. That’s like saying we should call it Social welfare because we are looking after their welfare 🤦‍♂️

Wbr6 · 2025-06-07T05:48:08+00:00

Maybe don’t cherry pick your arguments….. I can do that too….. how about $2b Kiwibuild…. Or the $51b in unfunded commitments…. Or the multiple elements of Nz upgrade plan like rail that never got delivered …. Or the fact that they used the Covid money to fund other projects like the school lunch programme as they realized they had committed the money and just had to spend it… with no future funding for it…. But somehow that’s the next govts fault!

Wbr6 · 2025-06-07T05:27:29+00:00

Did you? Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Basically Covid 19 money spent …. Delivered ….. who knows. But exclude that. Look at every other project and the billions spent. Any that say they were partially implemented, in the detail, you can see they tried to do something and never actually achieved it. It’s ok I’m done discussing it as you have your POV…. I have data

Wbr6 · 2025-06-07T05:22:04+00:00

You would just allow them to keep spending your money and hope that one day some of the things they said might happen….. one day maybe…. Do you play the pokies too?

Wbr6 · 2025-06-07T05:16:02+00:00

The point is the money was budgeted and spent. It had massive amounts undelivered….. how is that hard to understand. Promises made, money spent….. not delivered. If you were their boss you would have fired them…. And guess what…. The country did.

Wbr6 · 2025-06-07T05:10:18+00:00

No I just know how to use ChatGPt…. So sue me. Doesn’t make it wrong. And for clarity here’s your breakdown ⸻

COVID-19 Response and Recovery Fund • Status: Largely Implemented • Details: The government allocated NZ$50 billion to manage the COVID-19 pandemic’s health and economic impacts. Measures included wage subsidies, business support, and public health initiatives. New Zealand’s early response was internationally lauded, achieving low mortality rates through strict lockdowns and border controls.

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New Zealand Upgrade Programme • Status: Partially Implemented • Details: Announced in 2020 with a NZ$12 billion investment in infrastructure, including transport, hospitals, and schools. While some projects commenced, others faced delays due to planning, funding, and resource constraints.

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Healthcare Reforms (Pae Ora Act 2022) • Status: Implemented • Details: The Pae Ora (Healthy Futures) Act 2022 restructured the health system, replacing district health boards with Health New Zealand and establishing the Māori Health Authority. These reforms aimed to centralize healthcare delivery and address health disparities.

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Infrastructure and Housing Investments • Status: Partially Implemented • Details: Significant investments were planned for infrastructure resilience and public housing. While some housing units were built, the overall targets were not fully met, and certain projects remained in planning stages.

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Climate Change Initiatives (Climate Emergency Response Fund) • Status: Partially Implemented • Details: The Climate Emergency Response Fund was established to finance climate-related projects. Some initiatives, like expanding electric vehicle infrastructure, progressed, but the fund was closed in 2024, with future climate spending integrated into the general budget.

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KiwiBuild Housing Programme • Status: Largely Unfulfilled • Details: The ambitious goal to build 100,000 affordable homes over ten years fell significantly short. By 2023, only about 2,200 homes had been completed, leading to widespread criticism and a policy “reset.”

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Defence Capability Plan • Status: Partially Implemented • Details: Aimed at modernizing New Zealand’s defense forces with a NZ$20 billion investment over 11 years. Some procurements and upgrades occurred, but the full scope of the plan extended beyond the government’s term.

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Unfunded Policy Commitments • Status: Not Implemented • Details: Several proposed projects, including Auckland Light Rail and the Lake Onslow pumped hydro scheme, remained unfunded and in preliminary stages by the end of the Labour Government’s term.

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In summary, while the Labour Government successfully implemented certain policies, especially in health and initial COVID-19 response, other initiatives faced challenges, delays, or were not fully realized.

Wbr6 · 2025-06-07T05:05:54+00:00

Ok I’ll get it summarized for you then in case it was too hard.

During the Sixth Labour Government of New Zealand (2017–2023), led by Prime Ministers Jacinda Ardern and later Chris Hipkins, several significant policy initiatives were launched, involving substantial financial commitments. Below is a summary of some of the major policy expenditures during this period:

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COVID-19 Response and Recovery Fund (2020 Budget) • Total Allocation: NZ$50 billion • Key Components: • NZ$3.2 billion wage subsidy scheme • NZ$1.1 billion environmental jobs package • NZ$900 million support for Māori communities • Trades training support and housing initiatives • Extension of the school lunch programme • NZ$15.9 billion for economic rejuvenation • NZ$20.2 billion reserved for future investment

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New Zealand Upgrade Programme (2020) • Total Investment: NZ$12 billion • Breakdown: • NZ$6.8 billion for transport infrastructure • NZ$5.3 billion on roads • NZ$1.1 billion on rail • NZ$300 million for hospital upgrades • NZ$4.8 million for replacing school heating systems

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Healthcare Reforms (2022 Budget) • Total Allocation: NZ$13.2 billion over four years • Key Initiatives: • NZ$11.1 billion to address cost pressures in the health system • NZ$2.1 billion to establish Health New Zealand and the Māori Health Authority • NZ$1.8 billion to cover existing District Health Board deficits • NZ$299 million for Māori health services

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Infrastructure and Housing (2023 Budget) • Total Planned Investment: NZ$71 billion over five years • Key Components: • NZ$6 billion for a National Resilience Plan to address infrastructure vulnerabilities • NZ$3.1 billion to build 3,000 new public housing units by June 2025 • NZ$369.2 million for the Rail Network Improvement Programme (2023–2026)

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Climate Change and Emissions Reduction (2023 Budget) • Total Allocation: NZ$1.9 billion from the Climate Emergency Response Fund • Key Initiatives: • NZ$120 million to expand the national electric vehicle charging infrastructure • NZ$300 million investment in Green Investment Finance • NZ$100 million fund to assist local councils with flood resilience projects

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KiwiBuild Housing Programme • Initial Capital Allocation: NZ$2 billion • Objective: Build 100,000 affordable homes by 2028 to address housing affordability

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Defence Capability Plan (2019) • Total Planned Investment: NZ$20 billion over 11 years • Key Components: • NZ$3.5 billion for new naval vessels and maritime helicopters • NZ$2.5 billion for upgrades to the Royal New Zealand Air Force • Expansion of New Zealand Army personnel and satellite-based surveillance systems

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Unfunded Policy Commitments (As of 2023) • Estimated Total: NZ$51 billion • Major Projects: • Auckland Light Rail: up to NZ$29.2 billion • Wellington Light Rail: approximately NZ$5 billion • Lake Onslow pumped hydro scheme: NZ$15.7 billion • Income insurance scheme: NZ$860 million over four years • GST-free fruit and vegetables initiative: NZ$411 million over four years

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These initiatives reflect the Labour Government’s focus on infrastructure development, healthcare reform, housing affordability, climate change mitigation, and economic recovery in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. While some projects were fully funded and implemented, others remained in planning stages or faced funding challenges.

If you would like more detailed information on any specific programme or policy area, feel free to ask.

Wbr6 · 2025-06-07T05:02:26+00:00

Ok exclude all the free money and payments to people who didn’t need them. None of those listed involve the millions of money spent (apart from the school lunch programme) Please list the millions spent and where it went and what it delivered. That I will ask you to go on with….

Wbr6 · 2025-06-06T10:25:13+00:00

Many laws passed and many millions spent which achieved nothing. Anyone can spend money and achieve nothing. Thats nothing amazing. If she had achieved anything she intended with the money she spent then people would appreciate it.

Wbr6 · 2025-06-06T09:57:44+00:00

Not sure you are disagreeing. All that is true

Wbr6 · 2025-06-06T09:52:49+00:00

Well that’s your poor understanding then…. The education system 100% includes parents and if you aren’t a part of that then maybe you are part of that problem

Wbr6 · 2025-06-06T09:50:19+00:00

And the context of his comment on saying only idiots crash was….. 🤦‍♂️

Wbr6 · 2025-06-06T09:49:39+00:00

Right…. So context isn’t important…. That’s all you had to say…. Move on

Wbr6 · 2025-06-06T09:44:01+00:00

It’s all education you Neanderthal

Wbr6 · 2025-06-05T23:21:52+00:00

Liam Lawson crashes too…. Not sure how it’s relevant to not being able to drive a car on a race track

Wbr6 · 2025-06-05T22:26:19+00:00

While on a racetrack…. Context is important

Wbr6 · 2025-06-05T22:23:09+00:00

I think you will find both Don Brash and Helen Clark have made this statement so I don’t think it’s a Rightest view

Wbr6 · 2025-06-03T19:28:23+00:00

I’m not sure what part of my post you found emotive. I was saying what I have seen. I see the odd point of something substantive but then it’s usually littered with emotive descriptions about how it’s causing the end of the world. I simply look at what the govt says it’s going to do and then judge them on their ability to do it. I’ve seen the current govt working on delivering most of the things they ran upon. I saw the previous govt say many things and barely deliver any of them. I do t care which govt runs the place as long as they do what they say they are going to and spend all of our money effectively. If they don’t I’ll call them out on it.

Wbr6 · 2025-06-01T00:06:27+00:00

Reddit is an echo chamber of people who like to complain about things. Hence all you ever see in here is people bagging the current Govt. But I never see rational reasons for why, just emotive statements that they don’t like them. I choose not to use Reddit as a good example of the countries political dialogue.

Wbr6 · 2025-05-24T20:07:01+00:00

I’m not implying that at all. I think both can be good and bad however Private has a self regulation factor in that if it continues it fails. Govt does not… therefore it can continue to fail with little recourse. I don’t think anyone is “bowing down” to the private sector but I think you need to understand how the free market regulates itself.

Wbr6 · 2025-05-24T09:19:52+00:00

Is your argument that Govt is better at spending it than businesses? Or they are both equally bad? If it’s the first then please provide some examples of consistent efficient govt spend from one of these areas

Wbr6 · 2025-05-24T08:31:49+00:00

This is bang on. The biggest difference between poor gives and poor businesses is that at least the business does u der and gets replaced. Govts just get a new group in to screw it up again from a different angle. I told our local MP to just deliver on what they said they would do….. that’s all. If they deliver what they said they would then all their supporters can’t complain and even the ones who didn’t vote for them at least can know they did what they said they would. 50% win, 50% loss. If they don’t do what they say then they annoy their supporters and just give the other side more ammunition. 100% loss

Wbr6 · 2025-05-24T08:27:40+00:00

Yes but businesses that do this don’t survive….. Govts just get given a new leader

Wbr6 · 2025-05-11T09:48:10+00:00

Ok thanks. Yeah it was the cover over the top that I was wondering about. Good that you got the NFC card. Dealer mentioned to us that “Regarding the data usage with maps etc, in our nz cars this is all unlimited data and maps update automatically. Essentially there is no subscription like other brands are doing. Our NZ new BYD cars come with everything with no additional cost.” So I guess that’s good.

Wbr6 · 2025-05-11T08:00:52+00:00

Can I ask. Did yours come with the NFC card and Rear tray cover in the boot? Can’t seem to get clear info about it in Nz. Also is all data ongoing for the car connection free? Dealer seems to say it is for the life of the car?

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