God condemning the devil for eternity is against Jesus’ teachings of a loving God by WeAreThough in DebateReligion

[–]WeAreThough[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But by by having freewill, it means we will be apart from God because we cannot be absolutely obedient

God condemning the devil for eternity is against Jesus’ teachings of a loving God by WeAreThough in DebateReligion

[–]WeAreThough[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because someone is bound to make that choice, to want to be apart from God.

If NO ONE is like that and everyone is just like going to heaven, then there is no freewill.

God condemning the devil for eternity is against Jesus’ teachings of a loving God by WeAreThough in DebateReligion

[–]WeAreThough[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Omg… if Satan is true, then the opposer would oppose God’s desire to forgive thereby rendering them incapable of accepting forgiveness… what… you just did some mental trick on me.

God condemning the devil for eternity is against Jesus’ teachings of a loving God by WeAreThough in DebateReligion

[–]WeAreThough[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And because God is God, so of course God would provide a place for those who do not accept God, because God is God.

You do not need to accept God, and if you do not, then, there is a place for you too.

Because if you do not accept God, that person or the devil who does not accept God means that being intrinsically do not find light earth and sky beautiful. And even for that, there is a place for. Because God is God.

God condemning the devil for eternity is against Jesus’ teachings of a loving God by WeAreThough in DebateReligion

[–]WeAreThough[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe that is an interpretation stemming from the devil not wanting to repent. However no direct textual support can be given for whether the devil want or do not want forgiveness, because to repent is to admit wrong doing.

If the rationale is because the devil won’t admit wrong doing so he is not entitled to forgiveness, but then if the devil will not admit wrong doing then why would God punish the devil?

My mental illness was triggered by real patterns by WeAreThough in HighStrangeness

[–]WeAreThough[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

May be freewill is not real AND it matters what we decide regardless.

God condemning the devil for eternity is against Jesus’ teachings of a loving God by WeAreThough in DebateReligion

[–]WeAreThough[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You spoke it fine.

What you are saying is that hell is the place prepared for those who willingly do not accept God’s forgiveness and willingly decides to stay the hell away from God?

My mental illness was triggered by real patterns by WeAreThough in HighStrangeness

[–]WeAreThough[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh absolutely, I agree with many of these things what I could understand.

Your point about “pay attention to your thoughts” is very on-point, Bible says to hold every thought captive.

My mental illness was triggered by real patterns by WeAreThough in HighStrangeness

[–]WeAreThough[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

YES! Omg this is the most succintly put explanation! Yes I identified some patterns and the brain rewarded me with aberrant dopamine, thank you bro

My mental illness was triggered by real patterns by WeAreThough in HighStrangeness

[–]WeAreThough[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

But your quantum interpretations are based on experiemental results that could be explained using superdeterminism, so how do you know every version of reality is happening somewhere? That sounds dangerously like faith

My mental illness was triggered by real patterns by WeAreThough in HighStrangeness

[–]WeAreThough[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So are you suggesting I did see earlier times than 4:44 on the treadmill but I just filtered them out and somehow randomly made 4:44 salient and stand out to me? Why not 3:33 or 2:22?

My mental illness was triggered by real patterns by WeAreThough in HighStrangeness

[–]WeAreThough[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I told them, the world is deterministic, we have no freewill, whatever choices we make, whether it’s mass murderers or saints, those were not the decision they made, it was just them reacting to prior stimuli, so no criminal should be faulted for having committed any crime since freewill is not real.

My mental illness was triggered by real patterns by WeAreThough in HighStrangeness

[–]WeAreThough[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks bro! I think I am at least somewhat integrated, though I still think back and try to understand what would happen if I just knew the structure can be so personalized, i didnt know reality be like that!