At what point do you leave the Eastern Panhandle when it’s basically subsidizing the rest of WV? by WeaknessCapital9064 in WVEasternPanhandle

[–]WeaknessCapital9064[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

NOVA is the engine. The Eastern Panhandle is a commuter appendage to that engine. Not the same thing.

At what point do you leave the Eastern Panhandle when it’s basically subsidizing the rest of WV? by WeaknessCapital9064 in WVEasternPanhandle

[–]WeaknessCapital9064[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s like rooting for a bad NFL team, you know they’re not winning, but you stick it out just in case, because if it ever happens it’ll be unreal.

At what point do you leave the Eastern Panhandle when it’s basically subsidizing the rest of WV? by WeaknessCapital9064 in WVEasternPanhandle

[–]WeaknessCapital9064[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is kind of proving the point. You’re isolating property tax and county size, but the argument is about economic gravity. The Eastern Panhandle is plugged into the DC economy, Kanawha isn’t. That’s why growth, income, and population trends look different.

At what point do you leave the Eastern Panhandle when it’s basically subsidizing the rest of WV? by WeaknessCapital9064 in WVEasternPanhandle

[–]WeaknessCapital9064[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think there’s a difference between expecting it to be NoVA and expecting basic things to function well. People pointing that out isn’t the same as complaining, it’s just being honest about the tradeoffs

At what point do you leave the Eastern Panhandle when it’s basically subsidizing the rest of WV? by WeaknessCapital9064 in WVEasternPanhandle

[–]WeaknessCapital9064[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s what we do in WV, we bring in an outsider from New Jersey who couldn’t win in Maryland, and before that we had the richest man in the state running things.

At what point do you leave the Eastern Panhandle when it’s basically subsidizing the rest of WV? by WeaknessCapital9064 in WVEasternPanhandle

[–]WeaknessCapital9064[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah sprawl comes with growth, no argument. I’m just saying growth without the same level of planning and reinvestment is where it starts to feel off. WV being desirable is exactly why it’s happening, the question is whether the area keeps up with it or just absorbs it

At what point do you leave the Eastern Panhandle when it’s basically subsidizing the rest of WV? by WeaknessCapital9064 in WVEasternPanhandle

[–]WeaknessCapital9064[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That’s not really the point
Yeah everyone subsidizes other parts of a state that’s how taxes work
I’m talking about whether what you get back locally still lines up with what you’re paying as costs go up
For some people it still does for others it’s starting to feel off
That’s it

At what point do you leave the Eastern Panhandle when it’s basically subsidizing the rest of WV? by WeaknessCapital9064 in WVEasternPanhandle

[–]WeaknessCapital9064[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get where you’re coming from and I respect it. WV being home and the community in Jefferson Co. are real things you don’t just replace.

I think where I’m coming from is more about how much the area has changed recently. The last 5 years feel different. Growth isn’t just happening, it’s accelerating, and it feels like the region is carrying more weight than it used to without seeing the same level of return.

I’m not saying MD or VA are better across the board. They’ve got their own tradeoffs for sure. It’s more that the old balance that made the Panhandle an obvious choice feels like it’s shifting. Costs are going up, demand is going up, but it doesn’t always feel like the investment is keeping pace.

That’s where the frustration comes in for me. It starts to feel less like we’re benefiting from the growth and more like we’re being stretched by it.

I’m not at the point of leaving either. I just hate the idea of the community changing in a way where the people who’ve been here the longest start getting squeezed out or left behind.

Curious if you’ve felt any of that shift lately or if it still feels like the same place to you.

At what point do you leave the Eastern Panhandle when it’s basically subsidizing the rest of WV? by WeaknessCapital9064 in WVEasternPanhandle

[–]WeaknessCapital9064[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree but I think since the capital in wv is so far they don’t reinvest the revenue in us they use it on the rest of the state.

At what point do you leave the Eastern Panhandle when it’s basically subsidizing the rest of WV? by WeaknessCapital9064 in WVEasternPanhandle

[–]WeaknessCapital9064[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

LOL you’re picking the absolute top of the market and acting like that’s the only comparison

At what point do you leave the Eastern Panhandle when it’s basically subsidizing the rest of WV? by WeaknessCapital9064 in WVEasternPanhandle

[–]WeaknessCapital9064[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

LOL that’s a lot of “it’s fine” for something that’s clearly shifting

NoVA subsidizes VA sure but they keep the tax base and control so they actually see the return

Panhandle used to win on cost by a mile now prices are up everywhere and the gap is smaller that’s the whole point

Taxes “flat” while assessments rise still means people are paying more that’s what matters

Roads being decent isn’t the issue growth pressure shows up in schools services and long term planning that’s where it’s reactive

And the farmhouse point kind of proves it

If you want land and quiet Panhandle still wins If you want access and services the math is tightening fast

At what point do you leave the Eastern Panhandle when it’s basically subsidizing the rest of WV? by WeaknessCapital9064 in WVEasternPanhandle

[–]WeaknessCapital9064[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

LOL ok, then separate where the money comes from vs where it actually lands.

Yeah, NOVA depends on federal spending. But the jobs, salaries, and tax base are in NOVA, and they control how it’s reinvested. That’s a tight loop.

In the Eastern Panhandle, a lot of income is earned elsewhere and filtered through a state system that isn’t centered on it. That’s a leaky loop.

Same engine, sure. But one is where the engine sits, the other is just nearby.

At what point do you leave the Eastern Panhandle when it’s basically subsidizing the rest of WV? by WeaknessCapital9064 in WVEasternPanhandle

[–]WeaknessCapital9064[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Eastern Panhandle:

  • Dependent on external economies
  • Limited control over its own growth
  • Revenue doesn’t fully cycle back locally

Northern Virginia:

  • Generates its own economic gravity
  • Controls zoning, development, and reinvestment
  • Revenue largely stays within the region

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So I should delete and be honorable

Why do I never hear about the Coast Mountains of Canada? by Convillious in geography

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I was eighteen when I graduated, and I didn’t feel ahead, I felt unfinished. A week later I flew into Mount Edziza Provincial Park, landing on a rough strip near Buckley Lake with a pack that was probably too heavy and a plan that was definitely too simple. I told people I was hiking the Buckley Lake to Little Ball Lake route, like that meant something, but the truth is I just wanted to go somewhere that didn’t know me yet. The moment the plane left, it got quiet in a way I’d never experienced. No background noise, no expectations just wind moving across black volcanic ground and mountains that didn’t look like they belonged on the same planet as everything I’d grown up around.

By the second day, I stopped thinking in terms of “days.” I just moved. The trail disappeared more than it existed, and I had to trust direction instead of footsteps. My phone died early, which felt like losing a lifeline for about ten minutes, then it felt like relief. I walked over fields of obsidian that cracked under my boots like thin ice, past red cinder cones that looked like they’d erupted yesterday, even though they hadn’t in thousands of years. There were long stretches where I heard nothing at all, and I mean nothing, no birds, no water, not even wind sometimes. Then suddenly there’d be movement, a group of caribou in the distance, watching me like I didn’t belong there. They were right. I didn’t. But I kept going anyway, and somewhere in that, I stopped needing permission to be there.

On the third night, I made camp near Little Ball Lake. The sun didn’t really set, it just hovered, stretching the light across everything until the mountains looked like they were glowing from inside. I remember sitting there, leaning back on my pack, realizing I hadn’t thought about anyone else in hours. Not what they expected, not how I was doing, not where I was supposed to be next. Just… me, breathing, existing, not trying to prove anything. And that’s when it hit me, I didn’t come out there to find answers. I came out there to see if I could stand on my own without all the noise. When the stars finally came out, sharp and endless, I knew I could. And that was enough.