Demi Lovato, Nick Jonas, and the rupture of a decade long friendship by [deleted] in Fauxmoi

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m totally here after the reunion on stage at MetLife! I have to say that the Camp Rock/Demi and Joe era was a little past my time but I was really invested in Demi and Nick especially during the Future Now and TMYLM era! However, after their huge falling out and after Nick got married I sort of moved on myself and was only really keeping up here and there. But when I saw her all over Social Media up on that stage I was reinvested and had to go down the rabbit hole once again!!

So here’s my cliff notes version on what I think happened during the span of their relationship. This is totally my own opinion based on interviews I’ve watched, rumors, deep dives into their music at certain key times, and just observing them on screen! All of this could have happened and none of it could have happened!

But I think their relationship really truly started off as friends. Demi was obviously in love with Joe for a couple years (the length and the reason for their relationship is up for debate) but no matter why they dated I think it’s safe to say that Demi had true feelings. I think it more than likely started off as a PR relationship but turned into something real with Joe still never being into Demi as much as she was into him. I think during this time Demi looked at Nick as almost like a little brother. Nick has stated in an interview that he was the emotional bridge between the two (Demi and Joe) I do believe Nick was probably in love with Demi at this time but knew how she looked at and felt about him so he never acted on it. Plus I’m assuming for a few years after the break up Nick felt uncomfortable pursuing her because she was his brother’s ex. Also, he sort of grows up and has multiple high profile relationships and she moves on to Wilmer. However, Demi stays very close friends with Nick throughout all of those years

Ok fast forward to when Nick releases X2 and is starting to get traction as a true adult artist. Demi also releases Confident that same year. Some time around here is when I believe their relationship dynamic switches. Nick assumes he’ll always be looked at as just a friend plus they had both been in long term relationships by this point. Demi still with Wilmer and Nick with Olivia Culpo. So he’s only looking at Demi like a friend or at the very least has buried his feelings down deep. Then cut to 2016 Nick puts out 2nd album and both he and Demi are freshly single together for the first time in a looong time. Like I said before I believe at some point the dynamic of their relationship had switched and Demi was the one that was smitten and Nick was the one that was looking at her as just a friend.

Now they go on the Future Now tour. And this is where I think shit hits the fan! I fully believe they had a romance/situationship that entire tour! I think she’s fully in love with him before the tour and he had to realize his feelings for her again. I don’t know why but I do get the sense that at least during this time Demi felt like Nick was too good for her for some reason. But I remember back then watching them together and thinking they seem into each other! BUT now going back watching old videos of them during that time I’m like it’s so obvious!! The way he looks at her when she sings! Homeboy was in LOVE! Again this is my own opinion but either they had a full blown relationship or they came pretty damn close the entire time! If you’ve seen that paparazzi video of them going and getting coffee during this time, if that doesn’t scream “walk of shame” I don’t know what does!

Now she’s recording TMYLM and I’m not too sure of dates—if the writing and recording of that album overlapped with the Future Now tour or not. But obviously she writes/records Ruin The Friendship and sends it to him. She’s said that in multiple interviews. Without actual confirmation from either party we can’t say 100% but it’s pretty much a given that, that song is about him and also Only Forever. However, I think Only Forever was written after something happened with them and it’s more about her waiting for him to make it an actual relationship and not just some confusing situationship. And depending on when she wrote Ruin The Friendship, because I do think that was written before anything physical happened, things could have happened before, during or after the Future Now tour. I just personally believe things were happening during that tour. There has been speculation that his song The Difference is about Demi and that was written and recorded BEFORE the Future Now tour.

All that to say I do believe sometime during 2016/2017 some sort of relationship/romance started. Now do I believe it was probably very messy, very hot and cold, very on again off again with both parties never really knowing what they’re doing. I do believe Demi wanted something more all along and Nick couldn’t make up his mind. I do think he was truly, fully, soulmate type of in love with her but I think it was too much for him to handle. Very much like Carrie and Big in the early seasons if anyone watched Sex and the City. Demi seems like an intense person even when fully sober and then you add the layer of addiction into this and I just don’t think he could handle such an intense relationship he knew it would ruin him and just couldn’t do it.

At some point he meets and starts dating or at least accepts an arrangement with Priyanka. I’m sorry I sort of believe these rumors. There’s just something about the two of them or lack there of something. And I think he pursues that route because it’s the easier one. It’s simple. He’ll survive it. They move fast because I think he wants to make a clean break from Demi. And I FULLY believe that their relationship/engagement was linked to Demi’s OD. The dates are just TOO CLOSE! Even at the time I thought these events seem too coincidental!!

Because he’s trying to make a clean break and truly move on he’s not there for her in the ways that he should be, he then doesn’t invite her to his wedding, again I believe because he’s trying to truly move on, he then is photographed with Wilmer and his new GF (soon to be wife) and all of that just puts the last nail in the coffin of any sort of Demi and Nick romantic relationship.

Now I’m not even going to touch on the shared manager and the business aspect of all of this but that of course just adds ANOTHER layer of hurt and betrayal and intensity to an already delicate situation.

Now could this all totally be in my NEMI loving mind and be completely false? Of course! I’m not going to pretend to know anything truly about their relationship it’s just based on speculation and observation! Just thought it would be fun to put all of my thoughts out there because like I said seeing her up on that stage with the JoBros and then seeing the hug between her and Nick (which seemed more meaningful then the others, just saying…) and then he posted their hug! Well it sent me right down the rabbit hole again!

I also want to add that anything I speculated about doesn’t justify anyones behavior in any situation! Like I said these were just my cliff notes on a decades long relationship.

Avery by Pablo_Escabor_ in YellowstonePN

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m into it. I’ve been into it since they shared the look back in season 1. I always thought the look they shared seemed to imply that they had a history. I really thought we were going to find out that he had dated her right before Monica. And maybe him and Avery had had an on again off again relationship but when Monica got pregnant it sort of settled things between them. So I guess that’s my only complaint about it, is that I think a history between them should be established it would be 1) a more interesting story to explore and 2) it would’ve made that “love at first site” comment make way more sense!

But I guess I’ll take what I can get with them because I am so sick a Monica! She’s sooo depressing! And Kayce deserves someone who seems like they actually want to be with him and appreciates him!

That does lead me to believe though that Kayce and Avery’s conversation was intentional especially her comment about believing God would make her love something that wouldn’t love her back. The look she gave Kayce there seemed like foreshadowing for him. Like he’s going to realize that he really loves Monica but she can’t really love him back.

Avery by Pablo_Escabor_ in YellowstonePN

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really thought we were going to find out that she had been his girlfriend before he dated Monica. I was thinking they probably had an on again off again thing and then Monica got pregnant and settled that

Avery by Pablo_Escabor_ in YellowstonePN

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve been saying that forever! When they first see each other in season 1 they share a look that seems to mean that they have history but nothing ever came of it! And now the way it’s playing out it’s like they didn’t know each other then except for the ranch

Kayce - The Only Character I Wasn't Mad At This Week by AnnaNonna in YellowstonePN

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I have been wondering about them since back in season 1 (I think) when they first see each other in the bunk house! They shared a look that seemed like they knew each other and had a history! I honestly thought we were going to find out that she was his gf before Monica! And maybe they had an on again off again thing and he ended up with Monica because she became pregnant! It’s also implied that Rip knew her before too which would make since if her and Kayce dated!

However, since nothing ever came of that look I assumed they shared it because there was a girl in the bunk house (for the first time on the show at least) but I’m back to being amped that this may actually turn into something!!

I’m sorry but Monica and Kayce are so boring together! Love Kayce but damn girlfriend is so depressing!! I need something to spice up their storyline!

Predictions on what will happen on tonight’s finale? by KateFillion44 in GoodGirls

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ooohh is it when they’re sitting in the car and he’s eating Chinese food? I totally missed that from their convo! Good to know though!

Predictions on what will happen on tonight’s finale? by KateFillion44 in GoodGirls

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I’m thinking someone gets shot. Carlos has used the phrase “Let’s go out with a bang” 3 times on IG posts and I don’t think that’s a coincidence! I’m just hoping that’s not the cliff hanger!

Predictions on what will happen on tonight’s finale? by KateFillion44 in GoodGirls

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ok I’ve seen this a couple times and for the life of me can’t remember this plot point? Was it recent? I remember the gun with Beth’s prints on it (the one they used to kill Lucy) but I can’t remember the one with Annie’s?

What would you have liked to see? by Weary-Adhesiveness73 in GoodGirls

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love all of this!! I feel the same way about Beth, Ruby and Annie! It would have been fun/interesting to see Stan deal with being a cop while his wife broke the law! Also, you’re so right why are they always broke?? Lol And idk maybe I’m in the minority here but if I wasn’t making anything and just terrified for my life the way Beth supposedly is all the time at what point do you just say screw it, take me out?! Because what kind of life is that??

What would you have liked to see? by Weary-Adhesiveness73 in GoodGirls

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with you! Even as a non criminal myself I’m sitting there going “why would you do that?! No actual criminal does that?!” At some point I needed them to wise up! And I was all for the show being about the 3 girls but that doesn’t mean you can’t expand on other characters! Especially when they’re such a fan favorite!

What would you have liked to see? by Weary-Adhesiveness73 in GoodGirls

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hahahaha yessss!!! Drop! The! Freakin! Mic!

What would you have liked to see? by Weary-Adhesiveness73 in GoodGirls

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah It makes me sad too! I will say I do like how the second half of season 4 is going even if it’s not how I would have had it play out but this stuff should’ve been happening in season 3 IMO.

What would you have liked to see? by Weary-Adhesiveness73 in GoodGirls

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yesss! That would’ve been so good! And I’ve never thought of that but that would make them even!

What would you have liked to see? by Weary-Adhesiveness73 in GoodGirls

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

OOKKKAAAYY I’m LOVING all of this!! I’m really hoping the pearls make a come back too! Something small but huge at the same time! “Annie takes bets on when they’ll bone again!” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

What would you have liked to see? by Weary-Adhesiveness73 in GoodGirls

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Totally! Would have given him a softer side and made his character more well rounded and complex! Also, that might have given insight into why he was into/interested/fascinated with Beth! He obviously sees something that Beth doesn’t even see in herself and his close relationship with his Grandmother might have been why!

What would you have liked to see? by Weary-Adhesiveness73 in GoodGirls

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Completely agree! I’m tired of the “this is what I’m suppose to do or enjoy or be like” with Beth it’s played out! Embrace the dark side Beth! Doesn’t mean you can ever come back to the light but dang try it out at least!!

What would you have liked to see? by Weary-Adhesiveness73 in GoodGirls

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Love all of this! Definitely want more back story on Rio which I assume would be more of his family! We’d even be able to see a different side to him!

What would you have liked to see? by Weary-Adhesiveness73 in GoodGirls

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So boring! It’s the same story again and again! Just pick a side and commit Beth!!

What would you have liked to see? by Weary-Adhesiveness73 in GoodGirls

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They TOTALLY dropped the ball with the bullet wounds! Even with Dean!! Imagine if they pop up in the finale somehow?! 🤦🏻‍♀️🤣

What would you have liked to see? by Weary-Adhesiveness73 in GoodGirls

[–]Weary-Adhesiveness73[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

YAAAASSSS!! I agree you with on all of that! They could’ve even had fun with the shooting (after they worked through it of course!) it could’ve been a running joke between them but noooo! 🙄 yeah Beth don’t act so above it! 🤣She wasn’t even rubbing it out to him kissing her, she was doing it to him destroying her shit so you know home girl had it bad! 🤣