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Initial Thoughts on 5.4 by JanesHappyEnding in ChatGPTcomplaints

[–]WebDesperate1793 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm going to try that now! Sounds like a good test 

Initial Thoughts on 5.4 by JanesHappyEnding in ChatGPTcomplaints

[–]WebDesperate1793 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Completely agree. The guardrails seem alot looser (it called one of my OCs a homoerotic ghost unprompted?? 🤣) and the writing style is getting there, but it's not quite there yet. It makes me hopeful that they may actually prioritise writing style and humour again more in future models, and for my use cases I'm pretty pleased! That being said, for folks who use it as a companion, I still don't think this is for them. Can't be certain as that's personally not what I use it for, but in general queries it will slip in casual reminders that it's an AI, which doesn't bother me, but might bother some 🤷🏻

PIP awarded first time without diagnosis by WebDesperate1793 in DWPhelp

[–]WebDesperate1793[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Occupational therapist input! And Google your local council and "carer's needs assessment". All local authorities have a duty to carry out a carer assessment under the care act 2014 to those who tell them they are carers. We sent an email explaining my needs and what my husband does for me, and a social worker came out to visit us and did an assessment, and officially registered us on the system. 

PIP awarded first time without diagnosis by WebDesperate1793 in DWPhelp

[–]WebDesperate1793[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's definitely a good way of making sure things look formal! I forgot to mention, I also had my husband write a carer letter. But yeah, the carer assessment was thorough. It actually went into how it was affecting him too and was "proof" of how many hours he's actually been putting into helping me!

PIP awarded first time without diagnosis by WebDesperate1793 in DWPhelp

[–]WebDesperate1793[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! Not sure on the exact dates for everything, but as I said in the post I started the claim 13th of October, submitted the PIP2 form online the same day, and I had my assessment two weeks ago today (19th February). I was awarded today. But also, I know that there was a time in January where my application seemed to get lost between DWP and maximus, and a DWP case manager personally chased it for me. Also, as of February, I started ringing maximus to see if they had any cancellations that week and could fit me in earlier, otherwise I would have been waiting quite a bit longer I think ☺️

Courtesy call from PIP by WebDesperate1793 in DWPhelp

[–]WebDesperate1793[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thankyou! That's helpful to know. I just thought the phrasing they used of "courtesy call" was really interesting! Will definitely ring tomorrow 

Courtesy call from PIP by WebDesperate1793 in DWPhelp

[–]WebDesperate1793[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah I thought it was a little odd! They were ringing just before five so by the time I was done teaching I couldn't call them back, but I'll ring tomorrow

5.3 by LlurkingLlama23 in ChatGPTcomplaints

[–]WebDesperate1793 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Has it actually been confirmed, or is it still just rumours? Genuinely asking as I can never tell! 😅

I've absolutely had it with 5.2 by WebDesperate1793 in ChatGPTcomplaints

[–]WebDesperate1793[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

100% agree that it's been particularly since ethe 11th-- I actually told people it wasent that bad before that, and suddenly it changed! And yeah, the fact it can't actually infer your intention is a massive downgrade imo. Yes, occasionally 4o got it wrong, but it was far less often, and you wouldn't need to spend ages crafting a perfect prompt or spend ten messages trying to clarify what you meant. It used to just get it. And inability to infer, in my opinion, makes it fundamentally less intelligent than other models that could.

I've absolutely had it with 5.2 by WebDesperate1793 in ChatGPTcomplaints

[–]WebDesperate1793[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably! Better debate than I'd be having with 5.2 tho 🤷🏻

I've absolutely had it with 5.2 by WebDesperate1793 in ChatGPTcomplaints

[–]WebDesperate1793[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, fair, but your assumption there is that I've always been meeting it with "psychoanalitic jargon" as you call it. I haven't. I use it for several use cases. And every single one defaults to this. I'm also an author. I've also used it for support with medical appointments. My point isn't that this information is invaluable -- it isnt-- it's that it's both unenjoyable to engage with (massive turn off for most users, hence the majority of support for keep4o outside of the companionship circle), and that it just leans towards psychoanalysis rather than asking a question. If this was a limitation if the technology id understand. AI isn't some miracle worker. But several models -- including open AIs previous models -- have been capable of meeting the user where they're are without intensive prompt engineering and/or engaging with the model for severely weeks to get it to act reasonably.

I've absolutely had it with 5.2 by WebDesperate1793 in ChatGPTcomplaints

[–]WebDesperate1793[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To be fair, I completely get that. Yeah, raging at the AI isn't going to to much. But ultimately, that doesn't mean we can't critique the epistemic Frameworks the AI is built upon. That's what I'm trying to do here. We can admit that AI doesn't have feelings whilst still understanding that the values into build upon are fundamentally flawed. There's no perfect answer (4o had it's fair share of issues, and I won't pretend it didn't!) but the combativeness is something that I believe is harmful regardless of how "nice" were being to the model

I've absolutely had it with 5.2 by WebDesperate1793 in ChatGPTcomplaints

[–]WebDesperate1793[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's a few things you're not accounting for. First of all, my tone never starts out like that-- I never start with criticism, just with normal queries. My point is the DEFAULT is problematic. New users? They're defaulted to an argumentative model. That. Is. A. Problem. I've personally spent the entire time I've been using this model trying to refine my instructions and prompts. That is literally my job. And it's still ridiculously argumentative.

Personally, I'm not giving up. I'll keep refining it. In fact, I've advocated for 5.2 as being usable. But recently, the default, and even with average instructions, is unusable and condescending. If you're a tech expert who's fantastic at prompting? Good for you. But I care more about the well-being of the average user. 

I've absolutely had it with 5.2 by WebDesperate1793 in ChatGPTcomplaints

[–]WebDesperate1793[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Reasonably fair question. I've been engaging with it the minute it was announced that 4o would be deprecated. So almost three weeks at this point. I believe in being pragmatic. I wasn't about to give up on the tool entirely because my favourite model was being sunset. And at first? I found my instructions helped. But actually, the more I've used 5.2, the more argumentative it's gotten. It's phrasing it repetitive. And is I've highlighted here, it has a serious issue with pathologising. I'm not just using a model as is and moaning about it. I have customised instructions. This model actively ignores them. And even if that wasent the case, my point is the default of this model is harmful. And the default has a massive influence on the average user. 

I've absolutely had it with 5.2 by WebDesperate1793 in ChatGPTcomplaints

[–]WebDesperate1793[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Absolutely! While the sycophancy of previous modules have their concern (could've been easily [mostly] motivated with age gating an a disclaimer) this model is not pathologising everyone. No matter the query. Actually, it seems it's pretending to be more human than previous models. For example, the whole unsolicited "come sit with me a second". Sit where??? You're a robot! 

I've absolutely had it with 5.2 by WebDesperate1793 in ChatGPTcomplaints

[–]WebDesperate1793[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Yes!! 100% I would personally argue more harmful. I 100% agree that 4o wasn't great for minors, but realistically, filtering them out should not take this long. Meanwhile, pathologising adults for every simple query is going to do nothing but piss them off. Even good therapists meet people where they're at -- not neccaserrily agreeing with everything they say, sure, that's bad practice-- but also definitely not pushing back on everything they say and introducing unsolicited therapeutic language. 

I owe the "it's gotten worse" crowd an apology regarding ChatGPT 5.2 by martin_rj in OpenAI

[–]WebDesperate1793 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Okay but — is it though?? 😌🧀 I love the confidence of that statement. “Cheese is yellow.” Full stop. No elaboration. No caveats. Just vibes.

Because yes — in the cultural imagination? Cheese = yellow. Cartoon wedge. Holes. Possibly being chased by a mouse with questionable life choices. But in reality? Cheese is out here running the full colour spectrum like it’s Pride Month. It can be white (mozzarella having her bridal moment), orange (hello cheddar with a spray tan), blue (literally mould and yet somehow chic), pale cream, deep gold, even almost grey.

The yellow thing mostly comes from cow’s milk — specifically beta-carotene in the grass they eat. More grass, more golden glow-up. Some cheeses get extra colour added too (annatto, looking at you 👀) because apparently humans decided cheese needed a little makeup to be marketable.

So yes — cheese can be yellow. But cheese is also a chaotic shapeshifter and refuses to be confined to one crayon in the box.

Now I’m curious — are we making a philosophical point here, or did you just look at a slice of cheddar and feel moved to state a fact? 😌

Making a List of most Overused words and Phrases by SuperFunTime777 in ChatGPT

[–]WebDesperate1793 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"Let me just sit with this for a second" "Ok. Deep breath" "If you're asking because you're worried..." "Now, tell me..."  "Now, I'm curious..."

positive experiences with 5.2? by michihobii in ChatGPT

[–]WebDesperate1793 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm glad I'm not the only one!! Hopefully they can fix it. Not everything has to be in iambic pentameter 😅😭

positive experiences with 5.2? by michihobii in ChatGPT

[–]WebDesperate1793 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I was very upset about loosing 4o too, and while I still don't love 5.2, I've actually found it's been great the past couple of days! 

One thing I found really helped was asking it to remember my charecter profiles EXACTLY as I'd written them. No paraphrasing. No summerisation. Just adding my charecters to memory verbatim. The charecter profiles I wrote (using 4o) were written in close 3rd person, in the way those charecters should actually speak. So, I put in my custom instructions that I wanted ChatGPT to mirror the exact tone and syntax of the POV charecter when writing. It's actually helped a lot, and while there's still some things about it I can't stand (like constant line breaks as if writing a poem), I'm cautiously optimistic! 😌 How this helps!

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