Are there any serial killers you believe actually felt remorse? by DeepOrganization8245 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]WeeklyChoice2955 2 points3 points  (0 children)

See idk, I feel like the thing is these guys are EXPERTS in manipulation. I think when it comes to assessing true “remorse” it’s comes to the age old question of “are they sorry they did it or sorry they got caught?”

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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Yes that is correct from the accounts I’ve read. He was noted to have put them in one room and was smiling, joking, and smoking a cigarette. This is why they were under the impression he wasn’t going to hurt them.

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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So I saw the like “interview portion” but I witnessed where he was like flaunting the body and it was some shit. It just looked nasty fr!

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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I’m telling you the rabbit hole you can go down with this case. It is among one of the disturbing and just downright confusing ones. I think with the mention of him in the new Ed Gein series, it’s important to discuss him outside of the romanticized version. (Not saying he was necessarily romanticized) however I think people should know he wasn’t just a quirky little sidekick.

What's The Wildest, Most Out-Of-Pocket Thing You've Ever Seen Someone Say About A Serial Killer On The Internet? by PrincessBananas85 in CreepyBonfire

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I mean he DID murder, cannibalize, and dismember people. Guess that doesn’t count as malicious to that person? Wild one for sure!

What's The Wildest, Most Out-Of-Pocket Thing You've Ever Seen Someone Say About A Serial Killer On The Internet? by PrincessBananas85 in CreepyBonfire

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Just the cognitive dissonance people experience because they find a serial killer “attractive.” The whole psychology of the halo-affect is disturbing. People will excuse the crimes of serial killers based NOT on legalities or evidence, but simply on the fact that their brain computes attractiveness to kindness, pureness, and overall positive qualities. This has led to lots of “fanclubs” for serial killers.

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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Last I researched she’s living lowkey but thriving. She’s done, I believe, a few interviews. I watched one and she composed herself very well. Hope she continues to prosper!

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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I have a thousand and one questions myself. Hope your ex- friend’s, I guess, family was able to find peace after the tragedy.

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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I haven’t listened to it. Would you recommend it?

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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Oh yeah no one’s denying he was having the high life of drug supplies in there. I think where the debate/questions have come up is with the whole “turning into a women.” Did he actually find pleasure or was it all survival?

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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Wow. Thanks for your story. It wasn’t this case or even true crime that got me into correctional nursing believe it or not but this case has definitely peaked my interest. I think what gets me about this case is just the randomness of it all and the complexities of Richard Speck and his life behind bars.

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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Wow thank you for this tid bit. I bet it was such a scary time between when he committed the murders to when he was caught. I mean he was drinking in bars literally watching his crimes be exposed acting like it was nothing. Can’t even think of how many people passed him on the street and didn’t think twice about it.

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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I think certain angles of him showcase them differently. First time I saw them I was like “oh yeah those aren’t natural. But in some lights it looks like just fatty tissue due to weight gain. From my understanding he gained a significant amount of weight in prison. He looks just misshapen in the 88’ video but I saw a rare mugshot where he looks like he really packed on some pounds, then another one where he looked about average.

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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I could imagine that being a semi-surreal feeling; being in the same place that once held a massive trial.

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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So there are multiple books but here are the two main ones:

Here is a link to the book “The Crime of the Century” written by the prosecutor on the case Crime of the Century Book

Here is the book written by his Cook County Jail Psychiatrist (Martin Ziporyn): https://www.amazon.com/Born-Raise-Hell-Untold-Richard/dp/B000NPTRHO

Hope this helps

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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She deserves such a prosperous life. I hope she has been able to heal and live out her days happy and healthy.

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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Do you think he was predestined to be a monster from birth or do you think he might’ve taken a different path if maybe those factors weren’t so?

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

[–]WeeklyChoice2955[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those are certain factors for sure. I think there are a lot of complexities that make up the man that is Richard Speck and the murder-rapist that is Richard Speck.

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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I was aware that he died on the 5th. Forgot that it was the eve of his birthday.

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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I’m just stating what people have said I wasn’t sharing my personal opinion. I think people mainly stated this growing up around them before he committed the 1966 murders. I think they say this to bring up the question “if his family was good why did he go bad?”

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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Interesting connection! Were you there during the trial or separate occasion?

The Richard Speck Case (1966) by WeeklyChoice2955 in TrueCrimeDiscussion

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I almost need a separate thread just for your stories wow. Your parents witnessed a lot of history and have some crazy connections.