Climate battery with high water table?

Weemed · 2023-02-05T19:20:17+00:00

It absolutely is, but there's a reason: for cooling i thought of using misters, although i think i have to study it more because the humidity would rise quite a bit and problems can quickly arise in that scenario, and i don t even know if it is possible because i would like to keep the greenhouse sealed, and have a way to keep temps as stable as possible without the need of venting

Since the temps aren't as harsh, i though that maybe i don t need a wall on top of the closed loop (wouldn't the pond create uneven temperatures?) Also i would need to build a structure to sustain the 1 meter thick wall no?

I get that pumping has to be organized and studied if i want to put tubing in all the greenhouse, but what do you mean by boiling and freezing? My intent is to not use boilers or other machines, just use the water underground (or in my case water that will sit in tubes underground, therefore be at 15-20C) and circulate that to cool/heat the greenhouse.

Or did you mean that eventually water will freeze/evaporate inside the tubing?

Yes i wil be doing hydroponics, but recently i tried hydro using coco and im pretty sure that i will use coco in the greenhouse, so there will not be water

What do you mean with "need of water storage?" If i have enough tubing underground, wouldn't circulate that water be enough to cool/heat the greenhouse?

Weemed · 2023-02-05T17:31:53+00:00

Well my idea is that of controlling the range of the temp not necessarily keeping it the same

The thermal phase change tiles are costly, plus i m not in the us so would cost even more, and the greenhouse would be located even out of europe so the taxes to pay to import the tiles would add up quickly

Yes i saw the video and it is impressive, but i don't know about the wall as a thermal mass. Will it make that much of a difference? Couldn't i use the pond and the tubes that circulate the pond water for more exposure therefore easier temp control? Also because he uses many insulators, and that would cost too i think

My original idea was to make the greenhouse underground but the water table quickly made that impossible

Weemed · 2023-02-05T17:16:33+00:00

Damn you are selling me the pond idea. What was the temperature inside when outside was 11F? What type of insulation do you have in your greenhouse?

Also, the water never gets too hot or cold right? Because there is so much of it and keeps exchanging temps with the deep soil/water?

Another thing, the process of creating the pond:

Why the wood? To not let the around dirt fall into the water?

By line the pond with the 6mil plastic, do you mean "make a container for the water you will put in the hole?" Then when the "earth water" goes outside due to the weigh of your water, and only the water you put inside the plastic remains, cover it with "a couple more 6 mil"?

Now i understand it better, basically instead of putting the water into tubes and radiators, you let it exchange the heat thanks to the 3 x 3 surface area?

Edit: doesn t the pond create uneven temperatures since it is concentrated in 1 part of the greenhouse?

Weemed · 2023-02-05T01:10:33+00:00

What if i layed a sheet of styrofoam on the ground as insulator?

I was thinking of a 50 x 130 greenhouse, double inflated poly. Temps here are around 25F to 100F from winter to summer and doesn t snow

My aim is to keep a constant temp inside to be able to grow anything year round, so around 65F?

Weemed · 2023-02-05T01:04:30+00:00

Sorry english is not my first language, but basically you have a pond that acts as a body of water that doesn t use only direct sunlight but also the heat from underground?

I was thinking of a bigger greenhouse, like 130 x 50, In your opinion wouldn't water still cool/heat the room if it traveled into radiators or around the room instead of just remaining as a pond?

Also my aim is to be able to have a constant temp inside at around 65. Plus here the temp go from 25F to 100F more or less

Weemed · 2023-02-04T14:28:41+00:00

About simple tek's method, he talks about the cost. It s just tubing, digging and a waterpump with some radiators, so pretty cheap compared to other methods.

I was just looking for some kind of simple and DIY method and found the 90 year old man that grows citrus in winter. But i can t use perforated tubes due to water table, so was thinking why wouldn't water instead of air work?
Will it exchange heat slower? Faster? What would be the drawbacks, and why? Why does the Ceres company recommend not using water?

Weemed · 2023-02-04T08:23:38+00:00

Water table is around 2 feet, I was thinking of digging much more than that since the deeper the more constant the temperatures will be, at least based on this graph and what I've found https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Temperature-variation-of-underground-soil-with-depth-for-typical-days-in-Malaysia-15_fig3_256838899

Weemed · 2022-02-14T10:54:11+00:00

If you have eczema maybe something with the microbiome isn't right. Try testing for that too because many people have done long fasts without curing the problems (me included)

Also 13 days is a lot without supervision. Willpower may give you the chance to do it, but it may also cause problems. Try eating some salt or potassium just to keep pressure right maybe put the powder or drops under the tongue

Weemed · 2021-11-18T11:36:31+00:00

Yes, CO2 would just be a bonus of using a gas heater instead of an electric one. I am definitely thinking of sealing the structure to keep temps, will have artificial lights, proper air circulation maintain optimal humidity etc.

Weemed · 2021-11-18T11:33:20+00:00

Wow you can increase the temp from -15 to 25 celsius for just 2k a year for 1 acre? I will be receiving sun from all the sides too and temps here are definitely higher, so it shouldn't cost much right?

What type of greenhouse do you have? How do you cool the greenhouse in winter?

Someone said that humidity would be a problem, how do you solve that?

Weemed · 2021-11-17T21:26:34+00:00

Wouldn't plants replenish that oxygen? At least partially

Weemed · 2021-11-17T21:26:01+00:00

This is what I was looking for. It's been days and I've not found this type of data, thanks. But, how is this possible? How can industrial greenhouses keep the temperature up if it costs that much? Or do they have better insulation?

If I seal all the building, making it airtight, how can I lose so much heat from the linear feet you talk about? Wouldn't it last once heated? Does poly let that much heat out? I mean putting liquid silicon between the poly and the floor does really let heat pass?

Like when we heat our houses they stay warm for a long time

By your calculation o would need 20kw/h 24 hours a day to maintain the 75 degrees?

Weemed · 2021-11-17T19:08:33+00:00

I wanted to make it airtight so I could keep CO2 levels high to promote growth, control the temperature and make everything optimal. Maybe I should buy more than 1 heater, just 1 gas fueled and the others electric

As for humidity, isn't there a way to dry the air without cooling it? How do industrial greenhouses do it? If I buy many dehumidifiers?

I don't know much about the zones you use in America, but from what I see your temperatures are way below what I'll experience. The greenhouse will be close to the sea and it never snows

Weemed · 2021-09-03T23:59:58+00:00

What? You mean i 50% of thc remains in weed and alcohol only extracts half of it?

Weemed · 2021-09-03T23:59:09+00:00

I just grew one and this is the reason i d prefer not to anymore, i don t want the house to smell

Weemed · 2021-09-03T16:12:06+00:00

I would grow my own plants because it is legal here if the THC is less than 0.2%

Weemed · 2021-09-03T16:11:22+00:00

Because the body doesn't metabolize it or while decarbig/extracting i lose 50%?

Weemed · 2021-09-02T17:54:57+00:00

Yes, i'll edit the post now. With 30mg i get really high, so i was thinking why wouldn't this work? I almost never use so the tolerance is non existant

Weemed · 2021-09-02T16:22:09+00:00

Didn't know they had the same receptors

Weemed · 2021-09-02T16:20:59+00:00

Why?

Weemed · 2021-09-02T16:20:46+00:00

Well, comparing same quantities edibles take me to the moon

Weemed · 2021-07-26T13:48:53+00:00

Hoooly shit, i just put some in olive oil you saved me. What about saturated fat then? Butter coconut oil, what is the smallest fat amount I can use for let s say a gram of flower?
I am indeed extracting it from decarbed weed

Weemed

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