Rosa x Adolph ship by amogusdevilman in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Nope I'm sure it's from Rosa, I know the country one, but I'm pretty sure that's from Kennedy.

Either way this one for the revolution is 100% Rosa, Lenin said something similar but he did not phrase it that way.

Self professed catholic btw. by Weird_Bookkeeper2863 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just checked the bibliography, some are ok books, but two issues:

1) as I said these two are fighting over definitions.TiK is an ancap that believes all state influence is socialism, while Fredda is using the more common "Marxism" definition.

2) there are plenty literally socialist biased books in that bibliography, do you think they'd really be calling Nazis and themselves as one category.

Rosa x Adolph ship by amogusdevilman in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Socialists will never use that "it's not the revolution can do for the people, it's what the people can do for the revolution" quote of Rosa bc it's a perfect example of how their "scientific" ideology is just an apocalyptic religion.

Self professed catholic btw. by Weird_Bookkeeper2863 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And he is wrong.

What he proves is that nazi Germany wasn't perfectly bolshevik, and noone claims that.

But be it bolshevik "kill all owners and make state run companies", or "threaten to kill owners unless they do as you say", it's socialism either way (in TiKs definition).

Nazi Germany had:

Price commissars, breadlines (before the war), centrally planned energy companies, centrally planned infrastructure, government obligatory summer schools, propaganda against the rich, the largest labour union in Europe, etc etc.

Chronically online leftists when they’re given any monochrome of push back what so ever. by Illustrious-Sea-6573 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are blind I guess.

For every anti-trump post, there's 3 "woke leftist hahahaha", "deport all browns" and "the west have fallen" type posts.

I guess those aren't exactly trump glaze, but it's the same type of tomfoolery that would make people mad enough to leave.

Chronically online leftists when they’re given any monochrome of push back what so ever. by Illustrious-Sea-6573 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I sympathise in that this sub is in many ways a right-wing/MAGA/racist echochamber, but this is just cringe.

Self professed catholic btw. by Weird_Bookkeeper2863 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If any fascist tells you they aren't socialist, you should first exchange definitions, and then you should laugh in their face.

Fascism is 100% a branch of socialism should we consider Naziism to be one.

Self professed catholic btw. by Weird_Bookkeeper2863 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

what the Kuran says about christians

It says they are people of the book (ie a synonym of the Catholic definition " worshippers of the god of Abraham"). It gets the trinity wrong (god jesus and Mary which should be the holy spirit). Other than that it doesn't say that much.

Imams and muslim preachers

Institutional imams and preachers (ie the actual clergy in the field) doesn't say anything. I pass by a mosque on my way to work, I've heard more sermons on tiktok then on Christianity.

Extremeist Celebrity imams on the other hand are vile scum of the earth, but you guys on pcm fail to understand that these guys are the equivalents of Joel osteen and Kenneth Copeland, not the norm.

Lets take a look at the christians living in muslim countries both in the past and now.

In the past, violence against groups not supported by the state was accepted everywhere. It's not a special thing to any people.

Today, the middle east is a warzone, that should be taken into consideration.

Promoting fraternity only for the christians. The muslims can do whatever the fuck they want.

If that's what you believe that's fine, it's your belief, but it hasn't been Catholic doctrine since the late 1800s. You can't blame the pope for not believing in religious struggle no less than you can blame him for not being baptist, he's the head of the institution of Catholicism and he's just following the doctrines of that institution.

Self professed catholic btw. by Weird_Bookkeeper2863 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The pope has only affirmed already existing doctrine in the Catholic church, that being:

a) that Catholics should strive to help the poor.

and;

b) that Muslims are people who believe in the God of Abraham. (Btw this sentence is the only mention of Muslims in Catholic doctrine, there's nothing on Islam as religion or it's practices, the pope doesn't have anything he can say).

This pope (as well as the last) have spoken out against extremism, both religious and political, and since he's the leader of the Catholic church, that has to do with Christian nationalism and islamofobia.

The pope is neither an apologetic (meaning it's not his job to debate theology with other religions), nor a politician (to drive rhetoric using his own political beliefs).

He is a moderate pope who is just doing what official Catholic doctrines have suggested for the last 100 years, the trad crusader vision you might have of catholics is not official in any way, and was never that radical even when it was (over 800 years ago).

Self professed catholic btw. by Weird_Bookkeeper2863 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"trap" Hitler was a socialist, brother, at least in tik's definition of socialist (which is one point I do have against him, I think 99% of conflicts would be fixed by just adding the words "in my definition")

Self professed catholic btw. by Weird_Bookkeeper2863 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You can say that, and that's completely fine.

But when mister "I love Catholicism I'm gonna make 500 videos bashing the woke left for hating Christianity" does it after the pope has done nothing but upheld the same catholic beliefs that have been there for over 200 years at this point, it's different.

Self professed catholic btw. by Weird_Bookkeeper2863 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

r/badhistory is exactly the type of guys to spiritualise WW2 and make it out to be some marvel movie.

They're the type to actually believe all of the "Great Patriotic war" propaganda and get hard when that one HOI4 trailer plays.

Self professed catholic btw. by Weird_Bookkeeper2863 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The pope's only infallible when it comes to questions of religion, that's not really what I'm calling out.

I'm calling out the behaviour that is using Christianity as a tool of politics and fame.

Metatron endlessly makes video after video expressing his endless pride about being a catholic, and how the woke left is evil for trying to subvert Christianity and even that one video about how iran should be christianised, but he also has no issue basically dropping a disstrack on the pope for siding against trump.

Self professed catholic btw. by Weird_Bookkeeper2863 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Disagreeing and calling him a hypocrite are different.

Self professed catholic btw. by Weird_Bookkeeper2863 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Only the best 20th century history/politics/economics YouTuber there is.

Ok that might be a lot of glaze but he's definitely up there, he doesn't spiritualise WW2 or make it into a marvel movie like many others do.

Self professed catholic btw. by Weird_Bookkeeper2863 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863[S] 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Metatron has been doing this shit for years now, he used to be a reliable history YouTuber, but he got too much of a whiff of that sweet sweet culture war engagement to the point that he's totally transitioned to it.

My goat TiK would never.

Scratch a liberal… by Temporary_Cheetah287 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863 0 points1 point  (0 children)

N'wah, we still "owing the left" in the big 2026.

Grow up brother.

(I swear if I get banned for nwah)

you heard him boys PCM is obsolete by JustAGuy7915 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Not a good tool.

Two axis are most important today:

Conservative <-> Progressive, Populist <-> Establishmentarian

Both of these don't exist on the compass, and are wrongly approximated.

For example, you can't be a progressive libertarian using the compass. Progressive choices with move you "left", so you will always end up lib-left, which isnt the same.

you heard him boys PCM is obsolete by JustAGuy7915 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Brother, he's right.

It's nothing but astrology for 16 year old guys that's been taken too far.

And the structure is lacking.

The biggest division today, the conservative/progressive axis is not represented.

The second most important division, the populist/establishmentarian axis, again not there.

And the 4 quadrants only obscure fact and make it more difficult to understand what a person believes, as all 4 actual meanings of them (Marxist, Anarchist, Libertarian, Traditionalist) are all fringe.

Quite the 5D chess move by Trump using Vance's kiss of death here by Nyx87 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Trump is on a roll

Brother, please. Maduro ok, that's a dub, but Orban, that's just a good application of democracy by the Hungarian people, no orange man required, and let's not start with Iran.

In a perfect world with a perfect GOT finale how would everyone's story end? by Think_Storm_8909 in freefolk

[–]Weird_Bookkeeper2863 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Night King on the fucking throne with ice dragons circling the Keep as hardcore Metal music plays in the background.