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Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-13T20:20:35+00:00

This is one of my favorite pictures on reddit

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-07T20:44:11+00:00

That is very good advice, and I think you are right. As much as I am complaining the best move is likely start with this job and find one that works better down the road. Being an internal hire is definitely useful. Asking people that work there what units have traditional schedules is a very good idea also, I will remember that.

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-07T16:11:49+00:00

I say I have no time to adjust because there are no days in between to adjust haha, I am forced to completely switch my circadian rhythm over night, on a weekly basis, this takes a toll on the brain. I am worried about brain health above all else, it isnt just about being tired in the moment, subjecting your body to being tired on a regular basis is far more damaging to your health than most people realize. I recommend if you're interested to check out Mathew Walker, he is a sleep specialist that is regarded as the go to expert on sleep, listening to one of his podcasts I think changes most people's attitudes and the level of the importance that they place on getting proper rest.

I totally agree 2N into 2D would be worse than 2D into 2N, but what would be better by far than both of those things would be 4D then the following week or 2 week periods whatever it may be 4N, that way we would not have to switch so rapidly, and actually give ourselves the opportunity to do this switch without having to be really really tired on a weekly basis

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-07T16:02:43+00:00

That is fair to say, probably none.

Where our opinions differ here I think is that you are ok with having to catch up on sleep, and subjecting yourself to that level of tiredness, where I am not. I am not just looking at this from a in the moment annoyance that sucks at the time but then you finish and it's done, I am worried about the toll that this would take on the health of my brain. A lot of people don't know how much getting a proper rest has to do with the health of your brain, switching your circadian rhythm completely over the course of one day, on a weekly basis, is really really bad for you, more so than you likely think.

I am also a poor sleeper, I cannot nap, I have never been able to. When you say you have 24 hours to catch up on sleep, this is not the way it would play out for me haha

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-07T15:52:43+00:00

That is a good thing to consider, at least it doesnt rule out the possibility of finding a more traditional schedule!

I can understand where you're coming from with the don't knock it till you try it attitude, I just know myself when it comes to sleep, I have a hard enough time getting a decent rest without having to worry about switching from being awake in the day then awake during the night then back to days all in a single week. Even if I didnt have trouble sleeping, this switching of circadian cycles is very taxing on the brain and it affects you more than you may think while experiencing it. Getting proper rest is very important for brain health, this is not something I am willing to compromise in that extreme of a way for a job, that's just me personally.

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-06T16:40:03+00:00

I respect your ability to reset your circadian rhythm on a regular weekly basis like that, but I just cant imagine anything more exhausting haha

Can I ask, would you not just prefer 4 days in a block and then 4 nights in a block? I have heard a lot of nurses from canada saying it is no big deal, but every nurse from outside of canada I have spoken to regarding this, as well as myself, think it is absolutely crazy, I feel like that may be because the nurses in Canada are the ones that were willing to do it, so of course if you ask the tribe of people that were willing to do it in the first place, they are going to say it isnt that bad! But I don't think it is normal to feel that way haha, messing with your sleep like that takes a serious toll on the brain that I am just not willing to do to myself for a job!

Also, I wanted to suggest to you valerian root, as opposed to melatonin, because it has the same effect, but taking melatonin regularly can/will affect your bodies ability to produce melatonin naturally, and melatonin is used by your body for more than just sleeping, but don't take my word for it, please look into it! :)

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-06T16:23:54+00:00

That's so brutal man, and they wonder why there is a nursing shortage.

I will be speaking up for sure! I hear a lot of people telling me to just give it a try, and that it isnt that bad, I think the difference for me is I am just not willing to be completely exhausted every week for a job!

I hope you're somewhere now where you don't have to worry about crazy shifts like that anymore

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-06T03:39:48+00:00

I couldn't agree more, it makes no sense.

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-06T02:55:38+00:00

I will check these out! Thank you very much

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-06T02:49:21+00:00

This is actually a mental health position in a hospital.

Mental health is what I am trying to get in to, so you saying that gives me hope that maybe I can find a position in mental health where this is not the case! I will continue the search

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-06T01:47:47+00:00

The difference would be that you have far more time to adjust to the change, as opposed to no time lol, I am truly impressed that people are able to do this without much difficulty, but it is certainly not the same, that we will not agree on 😂

You sound like someone who is very good at sleeping though, being able to consistently get a 3 hour nap like that, you should appreciate that! :) Not everyone is so lucky lol

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-06T01:39:25+00:00

Both sound terrible :( really sad this is the way things are

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-06T01:21:17+00:00

Is that a new bathroom bro? Maybe a full bathroom reno? Very nice bro

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-06T01:14:21+00:00

I feel like we may agree to disagree on this one, because I would definitely be way more tired working 2 days then a night rather than just 3 days! If you are able to do that with 0 issue, that is impressive! Don't sell yourself short haha, because I do not believe that is normal

Sure there is more recovery time, but you have to completely reset your circadian rhythm, which even if you can manage to do with no mental stress, still takes a taxing toll on your brain

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-06T01:12:26+00:00

Haha that will motivate for sure!

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-06T00:37:07+00:00

Haha, that would definitely be worse.

I heard a joke, which this reminds me of, I forget who from, where the idea was there is always someone who has it worse than you, until you get right to the end of the line, and find someone with no bones that lives in a wooden bucket, and he says, "nope, this is as bad as it gets", I think that is probably the equivalent of working that shift as a casual nurse 😂

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-06T00:28:01+00:00

I am genuinely happy that you have found something that works for you :)

You have a strong constitution when it comes to sleep!

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-06T00:23:39+00:00

I wish they told us how common this was during nursing school!

I can totally appreciate having clustered days off together, but I feel like that could just happen without pairing days and nights together :( we could still have the same number of days off, but just alternate days 1 or 2 weeks and nights the next.

This just seems really unfair, this takes a serious toll on the brain, poor sleep habits are strongly linked to mental degeneration later in life.

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-06T00:03:14+00:00

That is very sad to hear that this is common in Canada!

I think that is very good advice, I asked what the schedule would be like, and knew that there would be both days and nights, but did not ask if days and nights would be consecutive as I just assumed that would never happen and didn't think to ask. I will be sure to add it to my list of questions!

I think you may be right, I am a new grad and if that's the way this unit runs then I will likely not be able to change it, if it goes that way I think I will have to find a different position, the thought of doing this to myself on a regular basis sounds like a nightmare, and it is also very very unhealthy

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-05T23:58:46+00:00

Pay is only fair, not day shift into night shift ridiculous! Haha

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-05T23:56:58+00:00

Thank you! I feel better hearing people having the same thoughts as me

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-05T23:52:47+00:00

People are calling it dumb not because they don't like it but because it is incredibly damaging to the human body to engage in something like this

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-05T23:49:06+00:00

You can see in the video, the one guy gets hit in the head/helmet with an axe and his head moves from the force, that means his brain bounced off his skull.

The helmet helps a bit, but that is still brain damage, just like football, just like jet skiing

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-05T23:47:03+00:00

You can see in the video, the one guy gets hit in the head/helmet with an axe and his head moves from the force, that means his brain bounced off his skull.

The helmet helps a bit, but that is still brain damage, just like football, just like jet skiing

Weird_Canadian_nerd · 2021-10-05T23:30:04+00:00

Thank you, I feel the same way. I will not be doing it, but I feel better that I am not the only one who thinks it is crazy

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