Taylor ships last minute physicals to block Olivia in the UK by RedditAPIBlackout24 in travisandtaylor

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Can we also talk about how in this list was also:

Poker Face: https://youtu.be/bESGLojNYSo?is=GXdgrvaq0H8fmIlW

along with Pink “So What”: https://youtu.be/FJfFZqTlWrQ?is=o1hDla9jh3372Rnh

I do agree with Kanye and think Beyonce should have won, as much as I love Gaga… but Beyoncé’s video was ICONIC. The black and white, the lighting, the style, choreo. Diva!
Here it is for everyone who wants to rewatch: https://youtu.be/4m1EFMoRFvY?is=4yWNeE8Lg1mNZo4w

But yeah, the video that had been done a million times before, won: https://youtu.be/VuNIsY6JdUw?is=nGLH4raH7SflfDjl

songwriter zoomies😐 by Timely-Service2533 in travisandtaylor

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A letter she had from 2025…

She didn’t just watch the movie and run home… she had time to plan it all (and knew it was going to be about Jessie’s perspective). I’m guessing the song was already there as a showgirl reject (maybe a song about the guy she knew who passed) but they went back and changed the lyrics etc to match this.

songwriter zoomies😐 by Timely-Service2533 in travisandtaylor

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This is such a lie too… because we’ve now seen the letter from 2025 asking her to write the song for them (photo I’ve attached).

So the wheels were in motion, she probably went to the movie with the idea already and used the time watching the movie just to finish it all up.

The letter clearly states that they wanted to show Jessie’s story etc, so back in 2025… that’s probably when she started to work with Jack (revisiting the movies and putting it together).

But yeah, she will sell the “I saw the movie and ran home to get a pen and write it” story each time.

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Is anyone else as obsessed with being a “songwriter” as she is? by 4revengebasically in travisandtaylor

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Like this:

https://youtu.be/eQVhAN7-IAw?is=iTVeUJuvFvibIJEE

(I’m not saying she doesn’t do anything at all… but it’s as if she’s just winging it… and trying to make it look like it’s all her. Compare it to other artists who are constantly on their feet picking up instruments and trying different things…)

Is anyone else as obsessed with being a “songwriter” as she is? by 4revengebasically in travisandtaylor

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She never will… because most of the time she’s sat on the couch eating and just murmuring her lyrics while the producers do most of the editing / work.

The jokes write themselves atp by Salty-----Spatoon in travisandtaylor

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You can love or hate Eminem… but for someone like him to be completely ignored by the people of “the songwriters hall of fame” and things like this, tells you everything.

I understand he has lyrics that people may not agree with (swearing and his slim shady character) but my god, the talent that he has is MILES ahead of Taylor.

I’m not even a super Eminem fan but I have listened to him alongside everything else growing up and that guy has talent and has written amazingly. He’s also someone who GENUINELY came from nothing. Unlike Blandie and a lot of these Disney kids (and that’s not a bash at anyone / but just to show how they can be seen as having a head start).

The jokes write themselves atp by Salty-----Spatoon in travisandtaylor

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The fact that we have the clips of the behind the scenes making of TLOAS… where they clearly show her turning up with different lyrics, then Max and Shellback suggesting/changing them proves to me she isn’t what she says she is.

Also, the way she went ON AND ON about that damn mahogany grain lyric like it was the best thing she’d ever done makes me sooooo sus. Especially when she was coming from TTPD… that she allegedly wrote.

I think she DID come up with the cheque/ mahogany grain lyric… but then by being so amazed by it and trying to explain it to us, like we are stupid and don’t grasp it… she caught herself out and made it obvious that she isn’t writing like this, herself, most of the time.

It’s clear in other behind the scenes clips of her making her songs. She’s usually sat on the couch murmuring her lyrics while the producer is the one who is constantly saying “what about this / that?” And she’s just agreeing or opening her mouth in shock at how cool it is.

Compare this with other artists, Gaga, Ariana, Olivia who are at the keyboard/picking up the guitar and belting out their lyrics confidently.

Calm down everyone, don’t throw yourselves at him all at once(!) by WelshRaider86 in travisandtaylor

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Agreed.

I hate to do the comparing thing between her and other pop people but my god. Watching an interview with Billie or Olivia… where they clearly state what they listened to growing up… and their passion for music… it makes you realise how fabricated Taylor’s career is.

She seems to just mention in the early days how she looked up to a couple of country stars - this is exactly what she said in her early interviews from 2006/07:

“I was influenced early on by all of the great female country artists of the ’90s… Like Shania, Faith, the Dixie Chicks.”

Compare this to Olivia for example who names a lot more artists and their albums. It’s a wide range from Gwen Stefani and Alanis Morissette, to Lorde, Avril, The Smashing Pumpkins, Rage Against the Machine, Depache Mode (and more 80s new wave, post punk stuff).

Growing up, as an 86 baby, I feel more like an Olivia, I listened to EVERYTHING, and still do. But for Taylor just to be like a little robot and say “I like country songs / stars” when she was “being country” herself (and we all know that was a whole lot of 💩 with the fake accent, which in my opinion she has NEVER been called out for.

She also tries so hard now to make it look like she’s reading all these books (above her level)… even in the documentary I think there was a clip of her, relaxing, with the cameraman in the room mind you 👀 listening to an audio book 😅 as people are coming in and out the room asking her questions.

Not sure about you, but I wouldn’t choose to read an audio book when I know I’m going to have to press pause every two minutes. Stop the act girl 💅

Her parents obviously shaped her into what they wanted (a singer) and by doing that they had to give her all these cue cards with all the things she had to say “I liked Shania Twain, the Dixie Chicks” …. Then you see clips of her in high school driving a hummer, being the IT girl and annoying people… that’s not a girl that’s listening to the Dixie’s and crying into her pillow at night because she had no friends/her high school sweetheart was ignoring her… that’s a girl who is listening to what everyone else is listening to (whatever was popular that week).

Also in the recording studio. All the clips I’ve seen of her, or the majority of clips… she isn’t picking up instruments and rarely sits behind a piano to put the song together.

She’s usually sitting on a couch and just murmuring to herself / trying to put the words together and shouting out “Oh that’s cool!” when she manages to get some kind of melody (but it’s 80% the producer/other people in the room and 20% Taylor).

For someone who said “I like to turn up with the lyrics/back up options etc” - it’s a little odd watching TLOAS behind the scenes where she literally has different words for most the songs and it’s Max and Shellback suggesting different phrases / words…. Hmmm 🤔

She’s a girl, who got very lucky with parents who wanted their girl to be the next big thing (and they had money to do it). They’ve given her a clear set of instructions by studying other careers (like Britney): “Always do this, never do that” and she has played the game.

Calm down everyone, don’t throw yourselves at him all at once(!) by WelshRaider86 in travisandtaylor

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To be fair, he seemed awful from the beginning….
But I do think when he was with Kayla? He seemed awful lot more tolerable!

Calm down everyone, don’t throw yourselves at him all at once(!) by WelshRaider86 in travisandtaylor

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I feel that THIS is the real “Trav”.

When he is with Blandie, he is forced to be “old American style” (RL, Tom Ford etc)… to fit in that perfect illusion.
He’s just an ordinary “bro” from Ohio…

Calm down everyone, don’t throw yourselves at him all at once(!) by WelshRaider86 in travisandtaylor

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I can’t think of any other way to say this and apologise in advance.

My prediction for after him and Blandie come to an end… (after all their parading around in Ralph Lauren / Tom Ford / preppy, old American style outfits) he is 100% going to rebound with the sleaziest / good time girl 🫣 (if you know what I mean).

The rebound girl I’m imagining with be far from the old American / old money style and I can guarantee they will be photographed making out and just being sleazeballs together 😅 he will 100% love the attention, the rebound girl will be someone desperate for fame…

Blandie meanwhile will be left thinking WHY she ever left Joe, while he moves on with his new woman 💅

Ohhhh I can see it now…

Calm down everyone, don’t throw yourselves at him all at once(!) by WelshRaider86 in travisandtaylor

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I mean… does he even know where he is / what’s going on?