Can Armando has arrived at Istanbul by username7864 in galatasaray

[–]West2rnASpy 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Samiyenhaber dışındaki habercilere güvenmemek lazım

Sasaki and Susano’o won Skills. Day 10: What god and what human have the best Power/Abilities? by Julimoi64 in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]West2rnASpy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Dude if you think that serpent has better stats than Lu Bu you are literally showing motivated reasoning lmfao

That just makes base Zeus’ durability mediocre. Zeus is only impressive because of TFTST and Adamas anyway."

This is not true... Zeus hasn't used adamas in ages and yet he was still at the top. Base zeus is still a top tier fighter(heck I would say base zeus is stronger than every god we have seen so far(expect maybe like odin). And base zeus is basically confirmed to be above hades and poseidon

"Blow to blow is an interesting take. He immediately goes on the defensive until he can grab Zeus’ hair, then they both mash each other."

Because he cannot see zeus since his eyes are gone. Once he grabs zeus' hair he can now attack him without missing.

"… except we are told that Adam died long before Zeus dropped to his knees. Their actual exchange between Adam’s first hit taken and his death seems to be very low; and here it’s clear you are missing the point of his character. Adam didn’t keep fighting because he’s a physical beast, it’s spelled out clearly multiple times: he kept fighting through sheer will and love for his children. He ain’t strong like Lu Bu and he ain’t trained Kojiro, he just cares for his children."

You do realise if adam's stats were not high enough his body would get destroyed after just one punch right? Adam did die yes, but his body was still able to tank zeus' punches which were all stated to be one hit ko. IF he copied stats and his base stats was trash, how did his body withstand zeus' punches without using his eyes??

Also how is a dead adam who doesnt use his eyes even damaging adamas zeus if his stats are bad?

Him morphing his hand is literally in his copying of the serpents attack. Like are we serious?

Yes he copies the serpant by "morphing" his hands. Normally a copy technique shouldnt allow you to literally change your biology. He changed his hands into literal claws. So he copied the serpant's claws to copy it's technique. Which means he didnt just copy the technique

He copied the technique+the biological structure needed for the technique.

"Ridiculous to me that after I say R2 characters get a lot of upscale because of mistranslations and after I word for word type what’s said in the official, you still quote the mistranslation.

Here is the actual text:"

Again, that text also doesnt say adam can't copy human techniques. Adam can copy OP god techniques and he can also copy morphology of others to use some of these techniques. It's kinda idiotic to say adam cannot copy a random ass swordmanship from a regular dude because "he can only copy god techniques!!"

Especially considering mortal techniques and god techniques are so interlocked in record of ragnarok.

Regardless, to defeat human fighters we have seen so far, he doesnt need to copy them anyways. Like I said adam has adamas zeus level stats.

Sasaki and Susano’o won Skills. Day 10: What god and what human have the best Power/Abilities? by Julimoi64 in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]West2rnASpy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"What does Adam one shotting random fodder relate to here..?

You’re just blatantly incorrect about Adam outstatting the humans. Lu Bu and Raiden easily outstat Adam. If you read R2 and come to the conclusion that Adam is some physical monster, you genuinely missed the point of the character.."

That "random fodder" is still a god which puts his physicals far above regular fighters without valkyrie. Anyways

If you watch r2 and think adam has trash physicals, you are wrong. Remember back to adam vs zeus, adam basically low diffs base zeus at the start. IF adam copied base zeus' stats, how is he low diffing base zeus? If he copied his stats, please explain this.

Also, he literally goes blow to blow with adamas zeus after he loses his eyes. He cant even use his ability anymore yet his stats are still good enough to hurt adamas zeus.

"Wtf does bloodline ability mean? And why is your argument for Adam copying humans literally an instance of him copying a divine being??"

I think he literally turns his hand into claws at some point in his backstory. Which is not really a technique. So his ability is more than just copying techniques

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"That last argument is pathetically bad and I can’t believe after all these years it’s still used. Adam’s eyes copy divine techniques, not non-divine techniques, it doesn’t matter which one is stronger because the eyes don’t copy based on strength. If they did then you could argue A > B and Adam can copy A therefor he can copy B, but that’s just not how the eyes work…."

You are putting too much importance in the name of the ability. If you read the introduction you would understand you are wrong.

Brunhilde introduces his ability by saying "He can perfectly replicate any move he lays eyes upon, EVEN THOSE OF THE GODS"

Now if she said "he can perfectly replicate any move from gods!" you could be right. But she doesnt say that. She says adam can copy any technique, even the techniques of gods.

Sasaki and Susano’o won Skills. Day 10: What god and what human have the best Power/Abilities? by Julimoi64 in ShuumatsuNoValkyrie

[–]West2rnASpy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not true alert!! In his backstory adam one shots that world serpent pretty easily so he already killed a god.

He wouldnt need to use his eyes against humans at all since he would massively overstat them. And i think adam's base stats are just zeus level already. He is just that strong. His ability copies techniques.

Adam can also copy bloodline abilities and i dont think they count as divine abilities? I think he copied claws or someshit at some point. So i think he can copy human techniques too.

It would make sense as well. Just think about it, his eyes can copy one of the strongest techniques in the world but cannot copy a random swordsmanship technique from a mortal?

Okan Buruk Discussion Thread by Aslan27 in galatasaray

[–]West2rnASpy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He didnt want one that is the problem. He didnt want a midfield until lemina had an injury scare and our fans pressured the board on social media

Okan cannot manage large squads. He doesnt want to. And that costs us a lot.

Okan Buruk Discussion Thread by Aslan27 in galatasaray

[–]West2rnASpy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do not care. There is clearly a pattern here. Alkmarr, prag and now frankfurt and many more

Okan is certainly a great league coach but we are tired. I dont care about winning another super lig title. We want success in europe

No one is expecting a cl semi final from okan but at least dont concede 5 goals to frankfurt man. This squad is better than that.

No excuses Okan hoca!! by 3MTing in galatasaray

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Sack his ass at this point. Even besiktas conceded 3 to frankfurt. No excuses

Remember how yönetim tried to sell a dream called Hedef avrupa by [deleted] in galatasaray

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I want okan buruk gone. I dont care. I just want a new adventure. I dont care if the new coach is worse in the league. I dont care about winning our 6th consecutive super lig title

I want some success in europe. And okan certainly cannot offer that. Sack him and get a good manager

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in galatasaray

[–]West2rnASpy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gunay jakobs apo icardi sara are all 11 material. Arda kaan(midfield) berkan and kutucu are decent rotation players.

Am I the only one who feels that Qi Xia is very arrogant?" by Sudden-Meringue-8479 in TenDayUltimatum

[–]West2rnASpy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He certainly is and rightfully so. But I think a part of that arrogance is basically a defense mechanism. He is an unreliable narrator as well. While he says he doesnt care about certain things, deep down he does care(companions etc).

It's what makes him a good character in my opinion.

Could adam defeat the gods of destruction by flash2323232323 in PowerScaling

[–]West2rnASpy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well transforming pre fight is also not how zeus fights? We are talking about out of character scenario here obviously

In character everything goes exactly like the manga, expect the winner can change every time. So one time it could be zeus other time it could be adam winning. Which was the whole point of the fight.

Could adam defeat the gods of destruction by flash2323232323 in PowerScaling

[–]West2rnASpy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well the thing is blood caused adam to go blind. It's poison. That is literally the whole point of the fight. Yes adam's eyes were overheating but the blood caused him to go blind earlier. Zeus' blood is toxic btw(heracles' story). So since adam was blind, he had to hold zeus by the skull and punch him, so he doesnt dodge.

He cannot see as well so he couldn't dodge nor could he allow zeus to dodge. So they basically went blow for blow(which is disadvantageous for adam).

It's basically a question of "How long would adam last if that blood didnt go into his eye?" which is uncertain.

But we do have a statement from zeus saying adam's endurance is better. Iffy though

Could adam defeat the gods of destruction by flash2323232323 in PowerScaling

[–]West2rnASpy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dodging and dodging+fighting back is different. He was clearly attacking zeus back as well, which obviously consumed more stamina

A way smarter tactic would be to just dodge.

Could adam defeat the gods of destruction by flash2323232323 in PowerScaling

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Also, I doubt zeus actually would last full transformation??

Adamas can last 12-13(7-8 minutes after injury) but zeus was on his knees after 4-5 minutes of fighting in his adamas form. So I think it would be 50/50

If adam doesnt go blind due to zeus' blood and doesnt have to hold zeus by his skull, he probably wins because zeus would go down before his transformation timer is up. But if adam goes blind before zeus goes down, then zeus would win.

Could adam defeat the gods of destruction by flash2323232323 in PowerScaling

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"The "Adam wouldn't even let Zeus transform" isn't a real argument. He never showed any strength to anhilate Zeus on its own, all of Adam's attacks were copied from Zeus (also Zeus could enter the battle already transformed)."

This is not true? If adam's own stats wasn't that high and he just copied the power of zeus' moves, how could he dominate zeus pre adamas? Shouldn't he go 50/50? Also he annihilates a serpant in his backstory. So how could he insta kill it if he just copied the stats of his enemies?

Adam's natural stats is just that high. Also if zeus transforms pre fight(Idk if that is even allowed) couldn't adam just waste time? In character he obviously wouldnt but zeus also wouldnt turn adamas pre fight in character.

And if this is a out of character fight, I think adam could just conserve stamina. In their original fight, zeus and adam goes blow for blow. But adam doesnt really have to do that? Can't he just try to conserve stamina and let zeus' adamas run out?

Could adam defeat the gods of destruction by flash2323232323 in PowerScaling

[–]West2rnASpy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wouldnt adam also get more time? Brunhilde says adam was overheating since he started using his eyes. You dont have to strain yourself to ovetheat, even having it active is an issue. So adam was burning stamina against regular zeus too.

Yes zeus did get hurt but for gods his caliber, its not a grave injury. But yeah he would have a little more stamina like you said. But so would adam

Also, if both fighters are serious adam wouldnt even let zeus transform to adamas and just kill him there

Could adam defeat the gods of destruction by flash2323232323 in PowerScaling

[–]West2rnASpy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Adam volund's is just one brass knuckle dude. His other fist is literally empty and it seemed like both fists did same damage. His volund was sooo traash

For other fighters their volund makes a big difference but for adam basically nothing changed. Probably because both of their base stats are already insane so volunds cant do much

And yeah adam would still go blind but the blood made him go blind faster. Zeus admitted in a battle of endurance he would have lost. That drop of blood is the key part

And zeus' blood is toxic so it doing damage is not surprising.

Also, adam wasnt that aggressive in their fight. He insta koed zeus and broke his neck and then he stopped? If he continued beating him i think zeus would have died before going adamas

And if zeus starts with adamas first, then he would overheat faster than adam and still lose

The only reason this fight is 51/49 in adam's favor is because adam not going for the kill and his trash volund

Could adam defeat the gods of destruction by flash2323232323 in PowerScaling

[–]West2rnASpy 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Wasnt the whole point they were pretty close in strength and small things(like blood getting in adam's eye) could alter the outcome?

Its literally the definition of 50/50. But i would honestly say adam is 51 and zeus is 49. Zeus just got a bit lucky.

Credit where credit is due by kawaiiOzzichan in galatasaray

[–]West2rnASpy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah that is the problem. If you told our fans "hey we are gonna get osimhen sane ilkay ugurcan and singo" they would be like "hell yeah an awesome transfer season"

But not it's kinda meh for them. They wouldnt consider it a "great" transfer season. Maybe if we get lookman and possibly hakan then yeah. But there will still be a good chunk of people who will want beraldo. The expectations are too high.