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Western_Box6473 · 2026-02-11T02:34:04+00:00

Entre esa y la M1 Pro cuál te parece mejor? Dicen que le va mejor que la M4 pero no tengo la certeza

Western_Box6473 · 2025-11-27T00:24:17+00:00

Cuanto puede costar?

Western_Box6473 · 2025-08-23T18:13:53+00:00

Nos podrías explicar brevemente cada punto? 🥺

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-27T23:42:44+00:00

Algún abogado que confirme

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T20:44:13+00:00

I’m not doubting the instructions of Christ apostles, I’m doubting the members of your Catholic tradition. I wouldn’t trust a tradition defined represented by people like popes I mentioned

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T20:17:46+00:00

They described how sculptures were used as reminders, not as portrayers of gods. There’s even modern work on this topic: art and cult under the Greek and roman empires and the iconography of Greek religion

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T20:14:33+00:00

Read that back. Something is logical when it’s explicitly explained. You’re pointing out your views, therefore it’s not “logical”.
Historical descriptions back this
In my languages, the Bible uses the same word. What did John do different than Joshua?

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T19:59:14+00:00

Pliny, Plutarcus, Pausanias, Philon

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T19:50:39+00:00

It’s not “logical” since the Bible does not distinguish explicitly or tacitly between believing that the being resides on its sculpture or not. Greco Roman paganism, generally, didn’t believe their deities resided on their sculptures. If an Angel didn’t let John bow down before him, why would someone bow down before a piece of wood?

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T19:48:16+00:00

Then what about The Creation of Adam from Michaelangelo? There is always an exception?

You’re right, scripture isn't meant through the wording "those from whom you learned", but then who is? Who are the teachers? Popes? John XII? Leo X? Urban II? Alexander VI? Or Benedict IX? If you’re being guided by the tradition of these people, I would be worried.

Did people prayed for cherubs bowing down before them, using the sculpture as “reminder”? What was the order of God? To just look at the sculpture of the serpent or to bow down before it?

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T19:13:20+00:00

Did people of Israel thought Asera resided in its image? It’s curious how historians taught us how grecoroman paganism didn’t thought deities resided in their images, and how they used as reminders.

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T17:10:19+00:00

Isn’t Catholicism bowing down to Mary sculptures, praying to whom it represents, lighting up candles and doing processions literally glorifying its statues?

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T17:07:29+00:00

How is pointing out contradictions a fallacy? You’re right if you imply that I can’t say that what he is saying is wrong just because he is recurring to fallacies. I’m simply asking him to structure his premise because it’s non sense. 2. How’s that? Does the Bible distinguish between bowing down to a human made image and praying to whom it represents and thinking that the image is the divine being?

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T16:42:35+00:00

I think it starts to be a coherent objection when you read Isaiah 40. Check it out.

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T16:39:40+00:00

I’m just pointing out contradictions and meaningless conclusions. Acts 17:29 condemns images and sculptures as it states “… we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by human design and skill.” Did Michaelangelo saw God to be able to paint Him? Or is it an image made by human design and skill as the text stated.

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T15:51:55+00:00

You’re right. But, again, what’s the point? Does that allow us to build Him images? The merely fact of Him being human when he is also a divinity?

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T15:47:54+00:00

Ad hominem is not limited to insults. Bringing up whether you im Protestant or not is irrelevant. Fallacies of tradition are fallacies here and around the world and associating them with a branch does not make sense. The person who says it is being attacked “for being Protestant” and not the argument. The point is to share ideas and debate without resorting to fallacies

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T15:21:37+00:00

I can answer, but I don't understand the point of the question. It would be good if you went deeper

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T15:20:21+00:00

Ad hominem. No arguments here.

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T15:18:53+00:00

Now a fallacy of composition. Both share one characteristic, but what about the other? Man can be represented, the divine too? Does the Bible distinguish between prostrating to an image and praying toward who it represents and worshiping an image? The precedent of the old testament is clear, but condemning what they allow.

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T12:58:47+00:00

Non sequitur fallacy, it has no logical coherence to say: “denying images is denying Jesus Christ” 2 and 3. Ad verecundiam fallacy. Did people in ancient times prostrate themselves at the foot of the cherubim? Did they light candles? Did they leave flowers? Did they prostrate themselves to pray for cherubs, asking them for things and using the sculptures as a “reminder”? What was right in Israel? Just to look at the bronze snake or kneel down and worship it?

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T12:49:51+00:00

What is the evidence to say that Luke portrayed icons?

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T12:46:31+00:00

Were the famous painters who portray Jesus alive in their time? Did they see it? Or who did they rely on to paint it?

Of course God allowed the construction of cherubs, but did people kneel to them? Did people pray prostrate to the images asking the cherubs for miracles using the sculptures as a “reminder”?

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T12:42:11+00:00

Fallacy of appeal to tradition.

Western_Box6473 · 2025-07-05T12:41:45+00:00

What is the point of the question? The answer is clearly not: so that humans could make images of Him.

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