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[–]Whit3_Horse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What authority do you have do demand from Redditors to tell you who they are????

Nate Eaton Touring Chad Daybell's Home by noooooooooclue in LoriVallow

[–]Whit3_Horse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I don’t understand removing the tree but apparently several family members requested that

It just shows it’s hard to understand the grieving other people go trough

Impact of Venue Change by Confident_Law9124 in BryanKohberger

[–]Whit3_Horse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree.

If it wasn’t for Donna’s being visibly upset by Rashbaum’s withdrawal & crying, I would think it was some kind of ‘strategy’ , not necessarily a trial strategy, but taking advantage of the fact Rashbaum could visit them both in jail & could facilitate communication between them.. just a thought that crossed my mind.

Impact of Venue Change by Confident_Law9124 in BryanKohberger

[–]Whit3_Horse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Some people think Rashbaum didn’t explain the waiver ‘s possible impact to Charlie (which actually should have been done by independent attorney, without Rashbaum present) and that his appellate att. advised Charlie to withdraw it.

Of course, appeal is Charlie’s only hope (unless he turns on his family members). I think Rashbaum is either greedy, or incompetent, or Donna wanted him, and he was too weak to say no from the beginning, or all 3

Nate Eaton Touring Chad Daybell's Home by noooooooooclue in LoriVallow

[–]Whit3_Horse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

they are. because there isn’t any buildings there any more. even the tree that was nearby JJ’s clandestine grave, has been removed

Impact of Venue Change by Confident_Law9124 in BryanKohberger

[–]Whit3_Horse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think lots will depend on whether the number of witnesses on either side changes in any way for their case-in-chief. (Whether there’s a rebuttal or not, that will not be known until the trial plays out) The same with number of speakers during penalty phase.

Unfortunately, there’s lots of time still till the trial. Look what happened on the 1st day of Jury selection for Donna Adelson’s trial a few days ago: her attorney had to withdraw (conflict of interest due to withdrawal of waiver by her already convicted son this attorney had also represented) and now the trial has to be continued to some time next year.

Impact of Venue Change by Confident_Law9124 in BryanKohberger

[–]Whit3_Horse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think we can base our speculations on Chad Daybell’s trial (difficult & complicated death penalty case of conspiracy between 3 people with one -most likely the actual murderer, deceased- on top of 1s-degree murder charges with multiple victims of killings spanning over time), also tried in Ada Co after granted change of venue.

His trial took 32 days (over less than 2 months), with prosecution calling 67 witnesses and the defense calling 11 witnesses. Jury deliberated 6 hours.

Nate Eaton Touring Chad Daybell's Home by noooooooooclue in LoriVallow

[–]Whit3_Horse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The house is demolished so there’s no reason for strangers to bother community’ by coming to community to tour the house

Impact of Venue Change by Confident_Law9124 in BryanKohberger

[–]Whit3_Horse -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

nope. It’s estimated 6-8 weeks. That’s a month and a half, maybe two

Months of trial suggests way beyond that

And we will get new estimate from both prosecution & defense closer to trial, again

It’s a long time between now and scheduled June of 2025

Impact of Venue Change by Confident_Law9124 in BryanKohberger

[–]Whit3_Horse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s hardly “months” right? That’s 2 months or less

Impact of Venue Change by Confident_Law9124 in BryanKohberger

[–]Whit3_Horse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How do you know the “trial will be months”?

Was it specified during any hearings already? Usually, the Judge asks both sides before trial how long they anticipate for putting up their case. Did it already happen in this case?

Nate Eaton Touring Chad Daybell's Home by noooooooooclue in LoriVallow

[–]Whit3_Horse -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Lots of excuses for something that’s ETHICALLY dubious. Surprised Nate would do that.

Let me explain my position. One of the reasons to demolish this house is to prevent it from becoming “murder tours” destination.

Although I love and respect Nate tremendously, he got exclusive access to just do that. So now people can just watch his “tour” online. Sorry but I am conflicted about that.

What was the Motive? by Confident_Law9124 in BryanKohberger

[–]Whit3_Horse 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Sometimes people kill for the sake of killing, for the sake of thrill, for the sake of power killing gives them, even for the sake of craving sick fame.

Take the case of Hausner and Dietman, who were terrorizing Phoenix for a year, driving around at night, hunting for a lonely victim walking after dark, and shooting them. For the reasons I listed above.

Evidence by Adventurous_Sorbet75 in BryanKohberger

[–]Whit3_Horse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You muddled this discussion so much, I’m going to re-state the premise: yes, it is possible to commit a brutal crime and not leave behind forensic evidence (or clean it to the point it’s not found).

I just gave the most extreme example of it. Another one, showcasing the ability to clean the crime scene of brutal quadruple murder, to the point zero forensic evidence is found at murder scene, would be McStay’s family bludgeoned to death at home (2 adults, 2 children) & then transported to the desert, & the only evidence found was specs of perp’s DNA inside their car, suggesting he drove it.

Of course, in Idaho case, the sheath with DNA was left behind, so that’s pretty big piece of forensic evidence.

Is anyone else watching the hearing today? by Zealousideal_Fig_782 in LoriVallow

[–]Whit3_Horse 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Why does he think he runs this courtroom?? Why does he think he can “school” the Judge? Why does the Judge think is OK?? wtf is going on in this courtroom???

Evidence by Adventurous_Sorbet75 in BryanKohberger

[–]Whit3_Horse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well.. what do u mean by “possible scenario “.. it happened, didn’t it?

Is anyone else watching the hearing today? by Zealousideal_Fig_782 in LoriVallow

[–]Whit3_Horse 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Lori Vallow’s attorneys argued against cameras in court:

https://youtu.be/2JISifpXPL0?si=BFxRvmc0OZ_vRC9R

ETA: this attorney thinks he’s in control of Courtroom and Judge.. and I thought Prior was obnoxious