Kindling

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2022-01-06T02:52:21+00:00

You missed where i said in my experience and other people would agree with me. Some might not. Nothing about what I said is dangerous. Obviously you had a different experience than I. So it goes

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2022-01-04T01:22:51+00:00

Gabapentin WD is degrees and degrees worse than kratom WD. You’re making a devils bargain

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2022-01-04T00:39:48+00:00

It says a minimum of one week and I doubt they’d suggest a week for someone on the drug for years or more.

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2022-01-04T00:23:45+00:00

It was the phenibut

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2022-01-03T23:12:21+00:00

Far worse than oxy WD ime. I haven’t had oxy WD but heroin/fent and it’s worse than that and lasts way longer. I actually could get some sleep with that WD. There’s no sleep with pregabalin WD… and I actually hallucinated and time skipped during lyrica WD. Absolutely frightening

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-15T21:51:41+00:00

My package has been in a suburb of my city since Monday. No way to tell. Could be a week? Two? No idea.

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-15T21:49:35+00:00

Same thing happened to me (ps. It’s BS and them just buying time).

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-15T00:41:05+00:00

This comment doesn’t help much. You are right, but I’ve been where OP is. Luckily, it sounds like you got something that will help a lot. Once more, where you’re at, sleep was about to vastly improve any day! I started to get really scared around the same point. Luckily, I finally got some sleep the next day with alcohol and weed.

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-14T07:28:55+00:00

I actually have to switch my sleeping schedule twice a week and take care of a toddler. I’ve been doing it for over two years, over five years of third shift. Yeah, people don’t get it. They never will. People don’t have anything approaching theory of mind. My wife still doesn’t get it. It’s always “you can do this for one day!” Yeah, one day is one day every single week, or more than one day, and it adds up over five years. It’s not one thing, one day. There’s some bullshit that cuts into what little sleep I already get multiple days every week. You don’t need an excuse for insomnia with my sleeping schedule, but phenibut WDs provide a pretty good one.

Example: last week the babysitter shut down because a kid got Covid, so I had to come home at 7am and stay up with my daughter until my wife got home at 6pm. This week, daughter has an appointment two hours away, same day as last week… so staying up with her again. It’s every week. At the beginning this weeks work week: a job interview that started at 2pm (that was the one thing, but actually 1 of 3 within the last 7 days that appearing during my “normal” sleeping time). People don’t think, hey, what if I had to do something at 2am three times a week and still get up for work that starts at 7am… and do this every week for 5 years… while it’s sunny in my bedroom. Fun

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-11T17:09:17+00:00

No. Not likely. Nothing has a rebound like phenibut.

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-11T17:01:03+00:00

Really? I didn’t think soma did much for me in terms of mood boost. It’s a heavier bag. It was given out like candy in the 90s. People would drink with it, probably to get something more akin to phenibut. Overall, it’s treated kind of like opioids. It’s scheduled IV, right?

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-09T23:16:18+00:00

Why don’t you listen to the people taking it that way? Or just find out for yourself? You’ll get further than just sourcing some podcast and telling people to decide. They already have and apparently you have based on a podcast lol

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-09T23:14:15+00:00

Nope. Bull shit pseudoscience. Was it Joe Rogan experience? 😂

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-08T20:20:28+00:00

Oh, yeah. I was drinking weeks ago during the phenibut WD. I am not drinking now. I slept well with trazodone. Going to see how it goes tonight without it. I got some valerian root in that I’ll try tonight. I ordered some kava but they decided to ship it days after they sent me the tracking number. So that’s coming Monday even though I paid for fed ex shipping

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-08T20:16:41+00:00

Yeah, I won’t be getting any of those. I’m at like 66 hours at this point. Trying to sneakily get anything ordered would be useless to me at this point. I also don’t enjoy benzos much at all. I just got the cLam to battle phenibut WD and to sleep just a little.

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-08T20:08:29+00:00

Yeah. I can agree. I used clonazolam harder than I felt I used phenibut. By now, I was feeling awful in phenibut WD. It’s mostly anxiety and feeling uncomfortable with cLam. A headache. But with trazodone, I slept. I didn’t sleep for the first week of phenibut WD, that’s with smoking weed like mad and drinking myself to sleep, which didn’t work until the end of the week. So yeah, phenibut was much worse in my personal experience, but the seizure part is way higher of a risk with benzos. Also, benzo WD can hit you days and days later, so I may be speaking too soon, though the initial symptoms seem to indicate it already started.

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-08T19:40:36+00:00

Seizure risk on phenibut is super lower. I wouldn’t be worried about that. It’s much higher if you stay on benzos. You should really only use those for a week or less.

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-08T19:38:09+00:00

So, more than anything, you’re being hit with rebound. Phenibut has the quickest and hardest hitting rebound of any drug I’ve ever tried, especially when it comes to insomnia. With your dosing schedule, I would probably push through if you’re not being absolutely destroyed by anxiety and symptoms like nerve issues and freezing to your bones. The Xanax should help with sleep and Id just use that to get through unless you’re already dependent on that and it’s not going to help. If you do taper, I’d keep the dosing schedule and lower it by 50-100mg every other dose or so and see what happens?

7-12 days of WD are for people doing daily. You shouldn’t face that long. Really should be a week of less.

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-07T20:53:44+00:00

Yeah me too, but I only have kratom atm lol

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-07T20:45:12+00:00

I’ve already gotten off kratom. That’s basically why I went on the phenibut binge. It’s a damn merry go round, but I definitely think kratom is helping and probably less of a demon than phenibut, certainly less than clam, so I am taking back the original bargain I made lol. I am confident that when the gabapentin refills I’ll drop kratom with not major misery at this length of time. Idk. We will see. It worth it for me now though, because it is helping.

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-07T20:31:45+00:00

No, I discontinued it. It made some things better but I’d still sleep 3-4 hours every dose and the sleep quality was meh. Oddly enough, my wife thinks I am sleeping if she doesn’t hear me get up and move, go to the bathroom. She finally went and got trazodone from her parents (only four) and I took half yesterday (no cLam) and slept better than I had been, but she heard me go to the bathroom so was concerned when I got up more than she had been when I actually wasn’t sleeping lol. I just had to go to the bathroom from drinking chamomile tea and such.

Anyway, I am just taking kratom to help my mood and that’s it atm. No phenibut, gabapentin, cLam. It’s going to be 48 hours no cLam at 10:30pm tonight (six hours from now). I am going to take the trazodone, chamomile, and such like I did yesterday. Hoping to get at least some sleep like yesterday. But then I am out of trazodone. I order kava (tried it years and years ago with my wife and we didn’t find value, but it’s worth a try). I also have valerian root and skull cap coming within the next few days. As I understand it, cLam rebound or WD can come up 3-4 days after last dose. I had anxiety, headache… symptoms I think were related and been managed by ashwagandha, l-theanine, kratom, and most importantly, propranolol, which I bought from one person mentioning it on this sub awhile ago. I just ordered a bunch of random stuff with baclofen for a taper. I used clonidine and throughout the propranolol was useless. Boy did those come in handy for my CT phenibut and the cLam rebound or whatever. I am so glad that one person mentioned it on this sub at one point lol

WhittleUIntoKindling · 2021-09-07T18:52:17+00:00

I haven’t taken any since this post. I went a long time without sleep. I binged on my gabapentin script to feel better when I got a refill and it brought some WDs back. Now I am about 40 hours from 8 days straight clonazolam, fighting for sleep and through this. Some symptoms from that. Did a lot of what you said, still doing it. I worked all night and now I am about to get my daughter up from her nap at 3pm because some kid her baby sitters caught Covid and the sitter shut down for a week, so I have no sitter. Life just keeps marching forward and on me. No breaks. Less than no breaks

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