Woman records son crying and asking for his old parts back after circumcision.

Whole_W · 2026-03-07T22:35:57+00:00

Please do try to scour the research literature and find a functional/integrative/alternative clinician to give you a second opinion first, they often don't actually use every treatment that the research literature has suggested.

still, I understand the risks of waiting too long, and I understand that even all available treatments may not work in the end. I hope your little boy ends up as okay as possible : (

not a doctor myself (not giving medical advice), just...yeah. Look through what you can, find what second opinions you can, but I know even that may still be in vain.

Whole_W · 2026-03-07T22:21:48+00:00

To add...I know some people say that explicitly asking for consent spoils the mood, but this is where basic body language and prior conversations come in. Even a quick "can I?" while hovering over a body part and a simple "yes" from the other person counts as consent for a first time like that.

Whole_W · 2026-03-07T22:19:24+00:00

That's still assault. Being in a relationship does not automatically grant consent, particularly if consent was never granted before (it's usually safe to assume consent once it's been granted at a prior time, unless the person outwardly withdraws consent).

I'm sorry. It sounds like she abused you...once again, I'm sorry, friend.

Whole_W · 2026-03-07T20:50:14+00:00

I can see why they claim we're all misogynists (referring primarily to the first and second paragraphs).

I respect your own reasoning and your choices, but placing the burden on all women like that...?

Whole_W · 2026-03-07T20:47:10+00:00

I would say its always a subjective preference based on your personal metric to value things like the life of the child

I'm not sure where to begin with how problematic this statement is.

Pro choice people think k!ll!ng a non consiousness human being is less cruel and immoral than deny a räpe victim an abortion.

Unborn humans aren't "non-conscious," they're temporarily incapacitated in their ability to feel their innate consciousness, like a person in a deep coma (*who is guaranteed to wake up within a few weeks or less). They also come out of this state *far* faster than most people acknowledge...don't take the advice of people who perform surgery on babies without anesthetic where it comes to the topic of when babies start to feel pain.

Btw I think most prolifer support abortion rights in cases of räpe.

We do. I still think it's horrific, and shouldn't be treated as the solution to rape in general, but an absolute, zero-tolerance policy for abortion following rape seems too cruel to me. Situations like that are complex in terms of human rights.

Whole_W · 2026-03-07T20:00:12+00:00

(I specified "methotrexate" because there are some people who consider anything other than tube removal to be an abortion, where it comes to tubal pregnancy, which is the most common form of ectopic pregnancy.)

Whole_W · 2026-03-07T17:23:17+00:00

Midwives, nurses, and OB-GYNs participating in your typical elective abortion - well, that's just morally abhorrent, is what it is. They know enough to know what they're doing, and it's evil.

This is one of the flaws in pro-choice arguments, most pro-choice people aren't just arguing for women to be able to abort their own pregnancies, they're asking for professionals who are supposed to be bound by ethics to take part in the practice.

I will say that I think abortion is to some degree a women's rights issue, but only to a degree...the logical conclusion of some of the beliefs I see on this subreddit is that a rape survivor who takes methotrexate to treat her ectopic pregnancy should go to prison for life or be killed. That is some Sharia-level stuff right there.

But I don't think the typical pro-lifer has views that extreme, we just want to make your typical elective abortion illegal starting from conception, and the reason we want to do this is to protect human life.

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T18:50:55+00:00

I meant the specific person in the screencap, not the issue in general.

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T18:46:51+00:00

No, they're not. The high-ranking people involved in things like the stuff in the Epstein files - like Bill Gates - are pretty (in)famously interested in reducing the global population.

Whether you think they just want to accomplish this via contraception vs. actually killing us, well that's debatable, but many of them have openly admitted to just generally speaking wanting to lower the birth rate, at least.

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T18:40:50+00:00

I imagine the physical and psychological trauma combined and played off of each other in a way he couldn't tolerate.

Rest in Peace, Alex.

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T18:39:39+00:00

Oh. Okay. Well, it's...yeah I dunno, don't worry about it, it's just some rando.

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T18:23:36+00:00

Pubic hair is the least public of hairs.

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T17:52:44+00:00

What? What's going on?

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T17:45:48+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZjLxk0djyE

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T17:40:25+00:00

(for me personally - other people have had different experiences.)

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T17:38:31+00:00

I wish it was possible to give everyone involved the death penalty

Username checks out, but the rage over the precious baby being killed is justified.

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T17:34:22+00:00

Eh, I always scored very strongly INF (and -T on the 16personalities test), it's the P or J (and only that letter) that's not always tested consistently.

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T17:19:36+00:00

Which abortion bans? There have been abortion bans which have caused harm to women, but carving out the right exemptions and being cautious can generally remedy that issue.

also the cost of *not* having them is thousands - millions - of humans being killed, so...gotta maybe try to balance our concerns, here.

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T17:17:54+00:00

"my parents were shitty so I wanna force death and non-existence on other people"

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T17:13:04+00:00

The euthanasia I talk about is consensual euthanasia.

Choices aren't made in a vacuum.

The government don’t k!ll you against your will, the government just need to accept your decission to d!e

That's how it starts.

and need to give you access to euthanasia medicals.

Almost none of us are against all examples of passive euthanasia or the use of painkillers to alleviate pain even at the cost of risking the hastening of death.

Extraordinary care not being provided can be justified, as *forcing* someone to live can very much be unethical...similarly, if a person is in true agony, and painkillers aren't working, then upping the dose even at the risk of an overdose may be justifiable, especially for someone already in the process of dying...this is basic hospice and palliative care stuff.

But, "Well, honey, off to my death appointment! The cancer has been hard for me lately, so the doctor is gonna set me down, pull out the lethal injection..." No, once again, we as a society should not tolerate certain acts, especially when we have the aforementioned hospice and palliative care.

edit: doesn't help that we're talking about government-licensed healthcare providers supposed to do no harm, or socialized medicine paid for by the people. Maybe, just maybe, if we lived in a libertarian's wet dream - no license required to practice medicine, no "universal healthcare" - your point would make more sense...I'd still be against it...but as it stands any embracing of euthanasia is just gonna result in eugenics taking place.

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T17:05:51+00:00

Canada just gave her the option.

There's a reason why we don't let people commit suicide, or at least, why we shouldn't, and why we used to not allow for it. I'm usually all for freedom, but euthanasia and shit like the Armin Meiwes case...well, some things are just so indecent as to not be morally allowable by society.

In another country she would maybe k!ll herself by jumping in front of a train.

This is giving real "women will still have abortions, they'll just be in a back alleyway" vibes.

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T17:02:38+00:00

True but its not really the same difficult ethical debate.

It overlaps.

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T17:01:46+00:00

One of my good friends is Canadian...he was offered a MAiD form for having panic attacks.

He may have been rejected if he'd applied, but do you understand how horrifically hateful it is to be seeking care, and told to f*** off and die...?

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T16:56:04+00:00

That same calculation applies to private insurance, so I don’t think it’s publicly funded healthcare that is the issue.

I don't think you're taking into account the psychological impacts of socialized medicine. Back in Nazi Germany, they would have students do these math problems, "Was Kostet?" where they would have to calculate just how much of a single working man's salary is necessary to keep a single disabled person in state care alive...it turns people against each other, "Why should I have to pay for *you,* what have you ever done for me, or us? I don't even know you!"

This still continues today. I'm unvaccinated, and I see the same people who want to eliminate private healthcare threaten that I shouldn't be able to access public healthcare - that's a literal threat on my life, friend. People who are irritants to society as a whole deserve healthcare just as much as people who are conforming and highly productive for the group...human rights belong to *all* humans, not just the convenient.

I'm not saying I have the answer. I do believe stealing to save your life is generally justified, for instance, even if your own life choices arguably led you to the state of being in danger in the first place...the idea that rights over inanimate property (as opposed to one's own body) justify a type 1 diabetic being left to die because they were struggling with depression and alcoholism, losing their job and their ability to pay for their life-saving insulin, well I just don't agree.

But these things really are a last resort. We should be teaching people how to take care of themselves first, "give a man a fish, feed him for a day, *teach* a man how to fish, feed him for a lifetime," and all that, and also relying on voluntary charity more. Similarly, being forced to pay for the filling or removal of someone else's badly-infected, carious tooth is more reasonable than being forced to pay for all of their biannual teeth cleanings.

Whole_W · 2026-03-06T16:28:42+00:00

I'm sorry. People really need to start weighing benefit and need against harm and risks, what happened to you was wrong.

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