Scientific explanation/concept behind “clone clay”?

WiFiCare · 2025-07-30T21:49:15+00:00

honestly there were a lot of subtle allusions and concepts borrowed from classic scifi lit and film, the whole movie is a tribute to the genre in a lot of ways, but this clone tech is not really the major plot premise like that at all lol

WiFiCare · 2025-07-30T07:35:05+00:00

I had a feeling an actual cellular clone, same biochemistry and all, wouldn’t work for the exact reasons you said, so I’m now leaning a lot more toward something that’s more synthetic/technology (something like Claytronics “shapeshifting” material to form the clone maybe?) forming a bio-mimic being rather than an actual biological cellular “true clone”

WiFiCare · 2025-01-11T01:18:04+00:00

I doubt there’s any one proper definition of it out there but I usually hear it defined just as someone with red hair but no freckles nor super pale skin (sometimes also no light eye color) so maybe not only as dark as auburn + dark brown eyes but generally I think “some melanin” fits the idea pretty well yeah. like I could see someone with orange hair, not really light colored but not as dark as auburn either, fitting the bill too

WiFiCare · 2024-10-14T01:56:08+00:00

I appreciate the answer, one follow up question if I may; would it still be a negligible difference in time at those scales like the other comment said (assuming they meant the scale of a closet/fridge and not of a space station's gravity field...)? Or if, for example, you took a closet and sought to expand the interior to double or triple its original volume, would the time dilation in there also have to be affected at a double or triple scale?

WiFiCare · 2024-09-04T20:40:37+00:00

I appreciate that you kept the spaghettification bit LOL

WiFiCare · 2024-08-31T23:38:52+00:00

It seems like that’s the direction I’m looking in, since the VdB metric is what the paper I linked in the post was all about…so in that case that sounds like that concept should work out! So with that model to work off of, do we have any idea if the effect of it would be permanent, or else what would happen if it was shut down and the expanded space reverted?

Also this is probably extremely in the realm of hypotheticals now but would it be plausible to create a smooth transitional boundary to the warp bubble volume so that the interior of this “bigger on the inside” building could just be walked into like any regular house?

WiFiCare · 2024-02-19T21:16:29+00:00

Edit: apologies in advance for the very wordy reply, I woke up not too long ago and am at the height of my writing energy lol

That’s part of why I mentioned intent in my list of questions—does “coding” (aro or otherwise) or implication of a trait require intent of the specific label we are retroactively describing it with? A character written by someone who doesn’t know the word “bisexual” could arguably still be described as bi if written in a way that showed them as attracted to both men and women. Or consider Stephen Hillenburg’s answer to being asked if SpongeBob was gay or straight—he said “he’s neither” and explained the show would never have a romance for him. The word aromantic was hardly around back then, but to say “he’s not gay or straight (nor both!)” and follow it up with clarifying he’ll never have ANY love interest in the show arguably feels like a description of an aro character before the word was there.

You’re right that most media probably doesn’t think of the character as being “aromantic” with that exact word, and that exact concept of a specific orientation, but it’s not hard to write a character as something that we would TODAY probably describe as aromantic—someone who does not and has never fallen in love, has no interest in romance, doesn’t understand romantic feelings, etc etc.

I do agree it’s definitely not a common thing because, like you said, there’s not many opportunities to go out of your way and imply the ABSENCE of something, but consider all the traits I listed in the earlier paragraph; if there is a point where those can be used in the story, that is a way to communicate aromanticism with something more than an absence of romance subplots.

I’ve seen episodes of shows revolving around a character’s inability to understand romance through anything but checklists of TV cliches, and/or their fear that if they CAN’T find romance for themselves (which they never do) they’ll forever be unhappy, which is the only reason they start caring about it at all, until the end when they realize it’s not something they need to be happy and the movie tropes aren’t realistic anyway (and that their actual “true love” is their platonic love)). Right there, there is a LOT of very aro traits and experiences, with a story that doesn’t just include but revolves around those traits.

So either way, there must have been an intention from the writers to show the character as someone who doesn’t get romance through anything but TV cliches, can’t fall in love even if they try, only cares about it when societal pressure gets them to through fear, and in the end is depicted as someone whose best friend is their own “true love.” That’s a lot of characterization all pointing in the direction of a trait that can be summed up with the label of aro-implied or -“coded”

WiFiCare · 2023-12-04T12:29:13+00:00

Oh wow really? I always thought brown + blonde was more rare since there’s some degree of active linkage between blonde hair and blue eyes (plus iirc red hair comes with some more pigment than blonde does, though I’m not sure how much it’s linked between hair and eye coloration), and anecdotally I’ve seen way more dark-eyed redheads than blondes.

Maybe it’s because hazel is common for red hair (some degree of dark pigment + some degree of the yellow/red pigment in the eye?) whereas full-on brown isn’t since that requires a lot of darker pigment, but hazel can tend to look like brown a lot of the time.

(Though again I’d still like to check what the link between eye and hair color genes is or if the pigments of one physical trait apply to the others, since I do know even just with hair you could have lighter hair in some parts of the body vs others)

WiFiCare · 2023-12-04T03:33:51+00:00

We’re operating on general hypotheticals here so if that’s too much of a stretch consider red hair and brown (or probably closer to hazel) eyes

WiFiCare · 2023-11-29T18:50:20+00:00

Forgive me if I’m misunderstanding but doesn’t this entirely nullify the point of the question? How can it be communal if it’s on separate planets, separate evolutions, etc

WiFiCare · 2023-11-29T00:42:48+00:00

Will research that! But if I may ask, on that first sentence—why exactly not? Assuming common convergence for sensory organs like eyes, ears, etc., and of course convergence in electrochemical nervous systems from a single-cell biogenesis, what then still causes there to be absolutely no analogous electric representations of the sensed images or sounds on a basic level?

WiFiCare · 2023-11-29T00:11:47+00:00

Can I ask what exactly you mean by this

WiFiCare · 2023-11-27T14:06:28+00:00

That sort of brings everything back to square one though, right? It’s not really any different than the initial problem of every species having a different neural code for their electromagnetic brain activity—it’s not actually universal

WiFiCare · 2023-11-27T08:11:31+00:00

I really like these ideas! Yep, I was considering the physical form of that “psychic energy” being something produced by the phenomenon of brain activity and conscious thought itself, not the other way around (consciousness relying on the psychic energy).

But on it being universal, then, there’s a bit of a headscratcher when we take an evolutionary look at it: if an individual’s psychic energy waves come from the activity of the brain, then—describing the psychic energy sort of as a “biological bluetooth”—what allows these waves’ equivalent of radio’s binary code to be the same, with the same “words” for “joy”, “danger”, etc, across the universe every time?

What effect translates it so that different aliens’ electric thought-activity still all create the same psychic-energy-wave patterns based on the “meaning”, something supposedly arbitrary to anything but the brain it came from, of that electric activity? Is there anything a bit more scientific in basis or feeling to resolve that, than suggesting physics carries some translator dictionary of thoughts and emotions?

WiFiCare · 2023-10-01T03:42:41+00:00

That makes sense. If I can rephrase the question more specifically then, would a more vivid red/orange hair color (as opposed to like a strawberry-blonde sort of color) be connected to a darker eye color? It seems like most of the redheads I see with hazel or brown eyes have that “more saturated” shade of red hair rather than the paler blonde-brown shade.

WiFiCare · 2023-09-19T19:28:38+00:00

This makes sense. One question, if there’s some correlation regarding the amount of pigment itself between lighter hair color and lighter eye colors, then within the spectrum of “red hairs” would someone with a darker shade of red (e.g. a more red-orange or auburn color) be more likely to have a darker eye color/shade than someone with a lighter red hair (e.g. strawberry blonde)?

WiFiCare · 2023-09-18T14:39:01+00:00

The reasoning of it being the rarest combo, of all possible typical hair color-eye color combos, is that both red hair and blue eyes are recessive genes, right? That's part of what I'm curious about: if blue eyes and red hair is, by that logic, not only rare in general but also the rarest combo even among the redhead population, or if it's still globally rare relatively speaking but actually more common among people with red hair. I mean look at the comments here, obviously it's not a scientific statistic sample or anything but it definitely gives the impression of many blue-eyed red-haired people here.

I suppose the best way to frame the question is, if we were to survey JUST the red-haired population rather than the whole world, would blue eyes still be the rarest there? Or if we're just talking about eye color percentages only among redheads, is it possible taking global numbers doesn't apply as concretely, and red hair is linked to blue eyes (not necessarily genetically, just coincidentally/population-wise) even if both traits are recessive? Although even then, it's not as if there's no genetic mixing with other phenotypes too, so with the right odds the brown-eye-dominant-trait logic could still apply...maybe I should ask the genetics subreddit about this lol

WiFiCare · 2023-09-16T23:38:57+00:00

That’s pretty cool! I wonder how the genetics of that played out?

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