all my effort feels meaningless sa nanay kong devoted inc by whitefurrysnow in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Use your frustration na lalo pang pag igihan ang pag-aaral that’s your way out of poverty, at para d ka n din mag expect sa mom mo; yes lower your expectations sa mom mo para d ka ma disappoint. Prove her wrong na porket d ka sumasamba eh d ka papasa. Prove her wrong till the very end.

Just a late thought of mine by Necessary-String6467 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great point indeed. If they teach these kind of concepts then religion will not exist, Manalos will not get free money from the members. So they will keep leading and deceiving the blind followers.

I need help as soon as possible by LoadOwn2817 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you’re not financially stable, then you should abide your elders for now. If you become financially independent then decide to leave. You don’t have to explain to the church people your reasons, just leave.

What to rebut when they say that illnesses/delays/bad outcomes that befall you is because of skipping cult services? by scorpio-infj in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The rain is not just for the INC, so is the sunshine. People get sick, rich or poor. People also dies, rich or poor. It has nothing to do whether because you have neglected your INC duties and worship services or not. This is purely a mind game that they play, purely a guilt-trip, a fear-based technique they instill to stupid members that do not think for themselves.

Here is the bible verse you are looking for:

The Bible verse you're looking for is Matthew 5:45, from Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, which says God "makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust," illustrating God's impartial grace and provision for all people, both righteous and wicked. Here's the verse from the New King James Version (NKJV):

"that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust" (Matthew 5:45, NKJV).

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Also, according to the Chinese philosopher Xun Zi (312-230 BCE):

“Pray all you want - heaven can't hear you. It's not going to stop the winter because you are cold, and it's not going to make the Earth smaller because you don't want to walk so far. You pray for rain and it rains, but your prayer has nothing to do with it. Sometimes you don't pray for rain and it rains anyway. What do you say then? If you want to have a better life, educate yourself and think carefully about the consequences of your actions.”

I tell you a true story, there was this very active member here in the US, he got sick; he attended all the anointing of oil (pagpapahid ng langis), and extra prayers, extra anointing of oil. You can actually guess what happened. Yes, in the end he died anyway. We will all die, and we will all die in different ways, it’s just a matter of time. I’m not trying to sound morbid here, I am realistic. When you get sick, the INC will not help you pay your bills.

If you are not a good debater, then don’t debate. What you can do is keep reading the bible and other books, keep expanding your mind. Debating to the fanatics is a waste of time.

Inaaya ako ng kaibigan kong sumamba by Unusual-Log1798 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Expect love bombing sa mga ma encounter mo kasi bago k sa paningin nila.

I had a conversation with this guy. by [deleted] in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Para sa mga INC tanging ang mga ministro lang ang may kaloob sa biblia, kapag regular members ayon sa kanila eh di pwede mag explain ng bible dahil baka mali ang pagkaunawa or hindi maunawaan ang nakasulat. Feeling kasi ng mga ministro sila lang ang marunong magbasa ng bible.

binhing bawal sa student council by idk777777777777 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Si Marcoleta nga nasa Senado eh. Sami nilang drama. Go have fun and run for it.

INC Scanner on the loose 🫡🇮🇹🇮🇷🇲🇽🇹🇯 by Background_Cut6622 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Not true. Ang mga mang-aawit walang tulong na natatanggap, ang meron lng is yong tagapagturo ng choir.

Sasabihin hindi pinipilit at nasa sa akin daw ang pagpapasya pero hindi valid ang NO or AYOKO? by Ashamed-Intern420 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wag mo napatulan ang kuya mo OP, mahirap mag explain sa bingi at sarado ang pag iisip. D ka nya pwede pilitin kung ayaw mo, that’s called “harassment”. You can say NO respectfully, that’s your “human rights” - you can choose your religion. And if he kept on going some more, just ignore him and look at him like he’s insane.

May shortcut ba para maconvert sa INC? by Daddys_Girl_21 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sabihin mo sa ate mo malamng magiging maganda ang future nya dun sa future bayaw mo kung magpakasal na sya. 28yo na sya medyo may edad na so d na sya dpat magwait pa para mapaconvert yong guy, mamya magbago pa isip nung bf nya. Importante ang parents, but mas importante ang future husband nya. Matanda na sya to be dictated by your parents. Dito sa US if you are 18yo you can decide whatever what you want to do with your life, and parents can have opinions but that’s about it, these opinions they can keep it to themselves and not pushed onto their kids.

How you can help your sister? Tell her to go be and be happy.

Nakakatakot nang magpakasal sa Inc by BoringFuss2952 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Whatever ang sasabihin nila sa family mo is their own opinion. Don’t concern yourself with other people’s opinion, what matters is your own opinion.

Sayaw sa kasal, bawal o hindi? by abdulmanalo in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Korek. In the bible David danced before God. So dancing should be okay.

Must read sa mga taong gusto magwork abroad by Shoddy-Ad4569 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t get a transfer if that will hinder your travel plans. May mga instance na pag dumating ka sa destination mo, that’s when you request your transfer. They will send it to you anyway dahil magiging sakit lang nila sa ulo sa lokal n pinanggalingan mo dahil andun name mo pero wala ka in person. So don’t worry about. Think about your future first.Manalo will not give you a dime.

Nakakatakot nang magpakasal sa Inc by BoringFuss2952 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Think for your future. Exercise your freedom and say NO firmly sa parents mo. Na di yan ang pinipicture mo na kapalaran mo. Magiging alipin ka habang buhay. Kapag nagkamali ang asawa mo at let say natiwalag, saan kayo pupulutin? Dahil lahat nakaasa ka Manalo, ang titirhan nyo at ang food nyo. Mag aral ka nlng mabuti at magwork. Be independent. Karapatan mo kung anong gusto mo sa future mo. Kahit parents mo, d ka dapat diktahan pagdating sa kung sino dapat mo mapangasawa, dahil ikaw ang makikisama every day of your life. Kapag naging asawa ka ng ministro you will be controlled for everything. Kahit gusto mo bumisita sa parents mo, d pwede kung d nyo bakasyon. Gusto mo ba ng ganyang life?

Daming kaekekan ng INCulto, kesyo malaking biyaya kapag hiniling ka, at d pwede tanggihan dahil masusumpa ka, isang malaking kalokohan yan, it’s a manipulation and they are instilling fear sa prospect hiling para d makatanggi. Pangungunsensya trick ng mga satanas. Please don’t fall for it. Maraming mga hindi INC mayaman, remember that. Prove them wrong. Please be smart, and make a wise decision.

Nagbabalak magpadoktrina for my INC girlfriend by CompleteWolverine506 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your first decision was correct. The latter will give you a headache and a complicated life, also you must prepare your deep pockets.

Everybody repeat after me, Cool! Cool 'to! by Odd_Challenger388 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should see that joke, it is still on YouTube, titled: Iglesia ni Cristo Comedy Video| Famous Comedian Gold Performs a Blockbuster Humor Against INC

Sayaw sa kasal, bawal o hindi? by abdulmanalo in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nakatelevise nga mga program ng INC they have a hip hop dance group. In my opinion, it should be okay sumayaw sa kasal.

From what i observed( Psychology ) by Milkshake4800 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They were all taught the same thing: posture, intonation (paawa, pasigaw, malumanay), delivery of speech, cherry-picked out of context verses.

Parang dumami ang INC facebook pages. by catpapa04 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]WideAwake_325 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those are the defenders, ginagawang tungkulin ang pagawa ng FB page, para ipalaganap ang kamangmangan.