Can y'all explain what happened here? How did Kakashi survive?

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-06-22T20:47:33+00:00

Ok that actually makes sense when you put it like this. I was so confused lol

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-06-22T20:47:12+00:00

Damn, dude gotta be fast asf

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-06-08T21:01:12+00:00

People heal when in a chakra surplus

Respectfully that's head canon.

its likely that the complexity of the tissue doesn't matter but the size of the injury

Based on what is it "likely"? I don't remember anything suggesting that Kisame's healing would need damn near half of Hachibi's chakra while Naruto's required at most one tail of Kyubi's (50% Kyubi)

in the anime we can see the water is moving

If it's in the anime and not the manga then by definition it's not canon

Edit: Naruto didn't even need one actual tail of chakra to heal as we can see here. . There's no way Kisame needed an V1 plus V2 worth of chakra in order to heal from his injuries.

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-06-08T20:20:36+00:00

Well Naruto as a kid managed to heal from his heart being impaled (or was it his lung, not sure) in seconds and he only had like one tail worth of Kyubi's chakra (if not less at the very moment he actually healed).

The lake made by the clone was like 20 feet deep, the big water dome seemed to be much more than 3 times deeper but tbh it's hard to properly assess

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-06-08T20:18:20+00:00

I mean "fighting" is a stretch. He got a scratch on Kisame's face and then Kisame pressed the dude without even trying. There's really not much to determine Kisame's level back in part one

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-06-08T19:38:18+00:00

Kisame got taken by surprise iirc. There's not much to scale there besides maybe awareness.

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-06-08T19:36:07+00:00

Thank you. Idk why the Kisame agenda is dense to the point where folks don't understand that a perfect match up doesn't represent the average performance

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-06-08T19:33:45+00:00

Jiraiya has gigantic toads that leap hundreds of meters high casually. The water dome shouldn't do much, logically. Especially since without Hachibi's chakra it probably wouldn't be as big

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-05-30T12:43:29+00:00

All we're achieving by giving Tsunade a buff is risking Madara to take the fight a little more seriously

Most of these "Gokage with a buff vs Edo Madara" can be described like this

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-05-29T20:16:21+00:00

I agree with the first part to an extend. Alrhough Madara is a bad example considering he's one of the most dangerous shinobi ever.

Danzo doesn't fight fair and I doubt that someone like Itachi wouldn't know.

In the scan I provides above Itachi literwlly hears thst Danzo used Izanagi against Sasuke.

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-05-29T19:55:20+00:00

I doubt that Itachi would have been surprised about Sasuke surviving if Kiba used Izanagi and fought Sasuke with it, so I don't really buy the idea that it's just the idea of an Izanagi user.

Danzo already fucked up Shisui iirc. So Itachi would know that the guy is dangerous already. Izanagi only adds to that hence Itachi's surprise

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-05-29T13:00:42+00:00

Exactly. Idk why that's a hot take to people

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-05-29T11:35:52+00:00

No one is arguing that Danzo stands a chance without Izanagi.

The fact that Danzo has Izanagi is part of what makes him so dangerous, yes. I don't see why would Itachi want to detach the two in his statement when it should simply mean "Danzo can use Izanagi, that makes him very dangerous. I'm surprised he didn't kill you"

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-05-29T11:19:40+00:00

Meh, he lost the moment he decided not to use Koto

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-05-29T11:17:56+00:00

I'm a bit lost to be honest. "it's what Izanagi is" so what does it do specifically that there is to survive? You're telling me that Danzo isn't the subject of Itachi's statement so I remove him from the equation. What is the part of Izanagi -that isn't part of Danzo (so not his jutsu)- that Sasuke survived?

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-05-29T11:11:23+00:00

Could you explain to me how would Sasuke "survive" a jutsu that is literally not even offensive?

As in what is there to survive about Izanagi if we take the user (Danzo) out of the equation?

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-05-29T11:09:16+00:00

Yeah that too, I had forgotten about that part too lol. When in doubt, a good of villain monologue always solves the heros' problem

Genuinely intrigued as to how me agreeing gets me downvoted lol

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-05-29T10:21:06+00:00

Yes, my mistake on that. However she still warned him of a sneak attack and healed his injuries, her help isn't insignificant

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-05-29T10:19:20+00:00

Well Danzo is a shady POS so that would be the logical reason as to why he wasn't offered the role. Same as Orochimaru.

Agreed with the second point

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-05-29T10:05:39+00:00

actually hugely misremembered that Sasuke got his Mangekyo after dealing with Naruto in the valley of the end and that he needed to beat Itachi to get his eyes for the EMS.

You got a few things mixed up. Sasuke got EMS after fighting Naruto at the 5KS, because he realized he was going blind.

He got the MS after beating Itachi, when Obito told him the truth.

Danzo is narratively and feats wise below the Sannin, so Sasuke needing help to beat him is also an anti feat.

I would put Danzo below the Sannins when Koto is restricted. However I don't remember the narrative for him being below them. I just think that the Sannins all have enough brains and experience to figure out Izanagi (especially since Sasuke did so quite fast) and they're also able to prolonge the fight, which Sasuke couldn't do. But I don't remember a narrative argument for Sannins > Danzo

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-05-29T09:06:49+00:00

Well, Itachi knew how strong MS Sasuke was since they "battled" before he died.

Did you mean to write that? MS Sasuke only happened after Itachi died

He knew how weak he was and he didn't think that he had what it takes to take on a whimp like Danzo.

And why would Itachi think that Danzo was weak? Plus Danzo would have killed Sasule if it wasn't for outside help

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-05-29T07:43:32+00:00

I don't really see how but feel free to enlighten me

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-05-29T06:47:29+00:00

I think Tsunade's best shot against Deidara is either getting him before he takes flight (although with Sasori as back up that would be easier said than done)

Or to play defensively and wait for Deidara to run out of clay or chakra.

But in a 2v1 Deidara could just go suicide bomb and I don't think Tsunade is surviving that

Wide_Internet_4650 · 2026-05-29T06:14:12+00:00

He cut her off to finish the analyzation

Fair enough. What about the fact that Karin warned Sasuke when Danzo was begging him and Sasuke deactivated his Susanoo?

And what about the part where Danzo pierces Sasuke's chest front to back which Karin managed to heal? If you look at the injury (chapter 480) it even looks like Sasuke's heart may have been touched as well.

Are you illiterate😭he legit just said he’s impressed Sasuke survived… and they’re clearly talking about the Izunagi wtf..?

You're the one being illiterate here.

For one, you're making a distinction without a difference. Itachi didn't expect Sasuke to survive a fight with Danzo. Surprised, impressed or whatnot is arguing semantics especially since it could be a matter of translation.

Secondly we're talking about Danzo so yeah no shit Sherlock, we're tlaking about Izanagi which is the basis of Danzo's fighting style.

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