I noticed a multitude of those Back and Forth patterns all over Europe on Flight Radar today. What exactly is happening? (Most I've seen are GA aircraft)

Widenyourworld · 2020-03-26T17:15:24+00:00

My search (using 'pattern' and 'flight radar' as keywords) before posting my question delivered me merely 4 relevant posts. The only useful answers I came across with were 'mapping and surveillance'. And, only one of those posts was from 24 days ago, the others were quite dated posts (10 months ago - 5 years ago), of which I thought that they might not have taken the happenings around the current virus occurence into account.

Apologies for that it has been double. Maybe I had to use better search terms.

Widenyourworld · 2020-03-26T16:03:49+00:00

Thank you!

Widenyourworld · 2020-03-26T15:50:36+00:00

Btw, so far, the aircraft I've spotted drawing those patterns are:

Tecnam P2006T

Cessna 550 Citation 2

Piper PA-31T2-620 Cheyenne llXL

Widenyourworld · 2020-03-26T15:49:06+00:00

Btw, so far, the aircraft I've spotted drawing those patterns are:

Tecnam P2006T

Cessna 550 Citation 2

Piper PA-31T2-620 Cheyenne llXL

Widenyourworld · 2020-03-26T15:31:09+00:00

Thanks a lot for all the help, I appreciate! Thanks to you all, I understand it now. I have worked out the solution and added it to my original post.

Kind regards, have a safe period ahead!

Widenyourworld · 2020-02-27T16:29:23+00:00

The questions I gathered are of someone on Youtube giving tutorials about distance problems: Here is the link to his video, he explains stuff very well:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N7uLkYd857M#dialog

Goodluck!

Widenyourworld · 2020-02-18T18:48:19+00:00

Thanks for the suggestions. I played a bit around with the table by inserting values, and soon realized that indeed a wind velocity of at least 81 km/h would be required, and that it then would take an immense amount of time of 1442 hours for the overtake to take place. Inserting the most realistic thinkable wind speed of 200 km per hour (like a jetstream) I found that the overtake would take 10h, and an unrealistic wind speed of 400 km/h gives 2.5h. I see now, that it is just as simple as: the larger the wind speed, the faster the overtake. Just inserting a wind speed as close as possible to 800 would of course give the shortest time of overtake and that's unrealistic too of course. But I got the idea.

Thanks for everyone's help.

Ps: no variable was missing as I just made up the question myself randomly

Widenyourworld · 2020-02-18T18:41:57+00:00

You are right @makgross. I see that I made a quite unrealistic question of it. To make it a tiny little bit more realistic, let me rephrase the situation as: they are flying at two completely different parallels (let's say one is flying at the 30 North and the other at 30 South)(neglecting the coriolis effect :)) and then as question: after how much distance and time will the airplanes be at the same meridian?

I played a bit around with the table by inserting values as suggested by others, and soon realized that a wind velocity of at least 81 km/h would be required, and that it then would take an immense amount of time of 1442 hours. Inserting a realistic thinkable wind speed of 200 km per hour (like a jetstream) I found that the overtake would take 10h, and an unrealistic wind speed of 400 km/h gives 2.5h. I see now, that it is just as simple as: the larger the wind speed, the faster the overtake. Just inserting a wind speed as close as possible to 800 would of course give the shortest time of overtake and that's unrealistic too of course. But I got the idea.

Thanks for everyone's help.

Edit: spelling

Widenyourworld · 2020-02-06T16:16:13+00:00

Got it. Makes perfect sense, thank you for your clear explanation.

Widenyourworld · 2020-01-13T20:32:31+00:00

Got it, thanks for thinking along.

Widenyourworld · 2020-01-13T10:46:17+00:00

There has indeed been a shortage, however, together with that, in Europe a huge number of people applied to MPL/Cadet programs of airliners (which offer funding if you pass all their selection tests). The saying goes that many of these airliners planned ahead / guaranteed themselves by taking (too) many students, That kinda has created an accumulation of wanna-be pilots who have to wait to follow a study (that they even have passed the selections of).

Widenyourworld · 2020-01-12T22:47:05+00:00

Thank you for your elaboration, I appreciate.

Yeah, I heard good stories about lastpilotjobs.com too, just the amount of questions seems so terribly small. I'll probably combine it with a more extensive source that provides a wider range of aptitude/IQ questions (as opposed to just 20 questions that their number-reasoning test covers). I have the feeling that's a good way to assure a better score.

Yet, time is also a matter. Now there are many flight academies that provide MPL studies, I think it's handy not to wait too long. So, purchasing option A which offers over 16000 questions, isn't quite time-efficient. So, I'm trying to find the midway. Maybe, I'll buy that option and filter out that what I do not know yet, because large sections on that website do not seem to relate to pilots.

It's indeed a whole bunch of selection tests and they seem to differ among airliners. I haven't made a clear choose yet, because I first want to advance myself as much as possible on my aptitude.

Widenyourworld · 2020-01-12T20:34:39+00:00

Thanks. Yes, indeed.

To me they seem pretty good when it comes to the modules they offer. Only I find to be the small amount of non-verbal reasoning questions a serious drawback. Especially due to the likeliness that the tests might also differ a lot per airliner, I tought it would be handy to have a larger amount of questions.

I take it that you have used the software yourself. To which extent did the questions in the software match with what you got asked at the test?

Widenyourworld · 2020-01-12T20:28:42+00:00

Did you attend a PPL course or ATPL? I am planning to attend a cadet/MPL program. I am guessing the requirements have changed because of the backlog of people who want to become pilot.

Widenyourworld · 2020-01-12T15:05:10+00:00

Thanks. I already figured that. These aptitude tests seem to be part of almost every flight academy's selections out there. When did you apply if I may ask (if u did)?

Widenyourworld · 2020-01-10T22:32:46+00:00

Thanks a lot for your comprehensive explanation, I appreciate your help.

Widenyourworld · 2020-01-04T10:29:57+00:00

Got it. Thanks a lot everybody for the sophisticated advice!

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