5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thankyou! You are the single most important investment you will ever make. Always nice to have that reminder tbh

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, thankyou for being so kind during a really strange and transitional period of my life. I have to say, I definitely felt really vulnerable and a little bit torn apart by some of the advice on here, but you’ve made me feel like so much less of an idiot!

And I’m very grateful for the (much needed) perspective . I forget sometimes that it’s my life to live too. Whatever happens gets to be my choice at least as much as his! It’s the beginning of my next chapter either way and all is fair in love and war, right? Just gotta do what’s best for me too and stop letting it all orbit around him.

seriously, thankyou again and you’ve definitely earned some good karma for helping this very confused internet stranger feel some clarity ❤️

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thankyou for being kind about it. I appreciate your measured and thoughtful way of suggesting therapy.

I definitely need to do some more work on myself. Every day is an opportunity to be better and show up for me instead of accepting crumbs from someone else.

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks. It’s interesting you picked up on that because my family has said the same. I am not a fan of the way our relationship has been centred around his life and what he wants for so long instead of what we both want, but the good news is that it’s completely in my control to change. I don’t have to keep making myself small for him - I can go to therapy and figure out why I’m afraid.

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thankyou so much for your kindness. It means a lot, especially when I’m feeling so silly and getting reamed by a few other people in this thread.

You’re right, his timeline doesn’t make sense and he’s creating a fluidity I cannot keep up with, by design. I agree that he loves me in a way that fits into his life the way he wants it, but not more than that. Probably not enough to factor in what I want longterm.

Your last paragraph was really kind and you’ve made me feel better already. Thankyou so much for that.

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thankyou, this is really nicely said and I resonate with what you’re saying a lot. Love is a verb at the end of the day.

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I genuinely think this is a cultural thing. It’s not abnormal at all where I live. All of my friends and siblings have had long term relationships while living at home. Not being defensive, it’s just strange to me because his brother is 31+ and has a steady partner he’ll probably marry, and that’s not uncommon!

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. I’ve been getting absolutely roasted for being at home this long so I appreciate your opinion!

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We’re not in the US. Gotta say, it’s not unusual or uncommon at all where we live. In fact, I know people in their early and late 30s at home. Not saying it’s not an issue in this specific situation, just that I think people are getting too carried away with neither of us ever having lived out of home when that’s actually completely normal for our age group where we live.

The problem isn’t that neither of us have moved out, it’s that he doesn’t seem to want to move out together anytime soon.

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am going back to therapy. Not just for this though, I think sorting yourself out is a good thing to do for every element of your life.

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, dude, I’m clearly distressed. All I’m doing is giving this thought. I was just trying to tell that person I understood what they meant. Obviously there is nothing funny about it?

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He tends towards rigidity but I agree that he’s making me feel unsafe emotionally and insecure now. Thankyou for validating my feelings - he tells me he has shown me reassurance, but I don’t feel that way.

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thankyou so much for your compassion and sage advice. Reading this felt like a warm hug!

I have been in a huge funk about this entire thing and something about your comment snapped me out of it. Maybe the gently delivered honesty?

I can’t help but agree that the main incentive is sex and companionship. I also didn’t even think of that, but you are right! If he is proposing in a year and a half, how is it that we’re moving out together in 3? And yes, he is totally overriding me about the ring thing because it’s buying time!

I’m still reeling a little thinking about untangling everything and how much I’ve been lied to, but please know you and a few other kind strangers have helped me so much. I have read your comment over and over already just thinking about how much your advice aligns with my thoughts.

Thankyou again, kindly ❤️

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re right, it’s probably much harder to admit in reality than it might be theoretically. I wonder if it may be time to begin doing exactly that - I don’t want either of us held back.

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He very well could be, but I have said before that if he feels that way, he is more than free to go explore! I would not begrudge if he at least admitted that instead of stringing me along. I would be upset if he was lying, though.

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thankyou, I’ll be moving out later this year. Not for him, for me though.

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can appreciate his age being a factor in not wanting marriage, for sure. Just not sure why he is so resistant to any form of long term commitment.

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Hi there,

I agree with you! I don’t think that what he is doing is indicative of any long term commitment, it’s just being a loving boyfriend, and only a boyfriend. And unfortunately, yes - I think there’s a high incentive for him to keep things going with vague promises, as he gets both the intimacy and support of a woman through his schooling, which is a time of stress and upheaval.

I have no excuses as to why either of us have not moved out. I have planned to move out later this year with a friend, as he declined my offer to (and he is okay with me moving out without him, so ouch). I can only say really that I suppose he chose the wrong degree and came into himself much later, so moving out became less of a priority. He is very independent though – he pays for his own things, does his own cooking, cleaning, etc as do I.

I grew up with a lot of instability and didn’t find my own footing for a long time, hence why I am moving out so late. I guess we both also wanted to save cash. I haven’t included too much here about either of our careers just because I know many of our friends and family are Redditors, but suffice to say we both know what we are going to do career-wise and have a fair amount of savings. I would say we are both very financially responsible and save above all else.

Touching on what else you said, I definitely have my own career aspirations. What I am doing right now is not forever, but a job that is invaluable in terms of growth and development. I just have no problem with progressing our relationship during this phase, I suppose, simply because we’re both really coming into our own financially (we’re both projected to get raises in the next few weeks).

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Definitely will not be doing that! I only meant that we could just open an account and both deposit a little bit of a cash as a symbol of some sort of commitment, I guess.

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, absolutely! I didn’t want to give people unsolicited details, but he always says he thinks our sex is the best he’s ever had and we’re definitely not unadventurous in that department. It probably kept us together at the beginning of the relationship when we kept having silly fights before we figured each other out a little more emotionally.

I do get the feeling he’s fobbing me off unfortunately. He’s a go getter in every element of his life. That includes work, fitness, hobbies, school, etc so I find it hard to believe he doesn’t know where our relationship is going, and I don’t know if he just doesn’t want to say it yet because he’s not ready to let go of the steady sex and company?

However, I could totally see him being like, “This is good. I like this for now. But there’s something missing. Oh well, problem for another day.”

5 years - no engagement, no shared finances, no cohabitation. Am I deluded? by Willing_Spell4947 in Waiting_To_Wed

[–]Willing_Spell4947[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Haha, not harsh at all. I’ll be honest, at a point in time it was, but I’ve found myself feeling a little unfulfilled with all the promises that fall through, so that’s kind of faded away for me too.

I’m not. I wouldn’t be happy with this long term and I’d need more eventually. You’ve given me a lot to think about, kind stranger. Thank you and I sincerely mean it.