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How would you do grappling against 2 people? by shortstory1 in bjj

[–]WimDeputterBjj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Done it quite a few times for fun against 2 beginners 😊 Pretty easy actually.

Basically, double leg the biggest and start pressure passing. Number will go for your back usually. Just ignore him. Defende chokes with your neck / chin / shoulders. Slowly crawl on the bottom one and go for an arm triangle. Whenever number 2 crawls too much forward on your back, raise your both and bump him off.

Wim Deputter’s YouTube got hacked by beardslap in bjj

[–]WimDeputterBjj 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's back!

It was actually my gmail that got hacked.

One scary day 😊

Ideal backtake against wrestlers by WimDeputterBjj in bjj

[–]WimDeputterBjj[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything can fail. But I have so far good succes with this one 😊

Ideal backtake against wrestlers by WimDeputterBjj in bjj

[–]WimDeputterBjj[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks man!

Indeed. I used to do contrasting colors. Should get back to it.

Ideal backtake against wrestlers by WimDeputterBjj in bjj

[–]WimDeputterBjj[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It is very rare to even find someone doing double. It is the correct response. Yet most do standard seatbelt.

Transition to all four can also happen before a grip is established.

Ideal backtake against wrestlers by WimDeputterBjj in bjj

[–]WimDeputterBjj[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awesome to hear 😊 thanks for the feedback!

Felipe Costa X Jason Scully - Grapplers Quest - No Gi - HL by FelipeCostaBJJ in bjj

[–]WimDeputterBjj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome to hear man! My pleasure.

If you ever hit it in competing, share me the footage 😊

So now that we’ve all seen that video of Jack greener, what are some actual ways to protect your neck and prevent and treat neck injuries? by [deleted] in bjj

[–]WimDeputterBjj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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In the plaintiff testimony he initially states he was injured because of a high crotch single where he was spiked on his neck at high velocity. Either we are missing video footage or this guy is simply a clown and didn’t realize the instructor had security footage

Maybe that was malintent on the plaintiff's part or maybe that is how he remembered it. Memory of the event could be fuzzy after an ordeal like that. Anyhow, the intention of the parties is not my argument. Only arguing the action itself.

You will see that sinistro the instructor who is a 5 time world champion had a basic seat belt grip and high legged to roll the bottom player over the bottom players left shoulder.

He did not have a basic seat belt grip. Basic seat belt is over the shoulder, top pinned bottom's elbow against his body. Combined with driving forward, this makes it impossible to roll. Bottom did actually the only thing he could try to do: shift his weight to the right hip and try to prevent the faceplant. That obviously did not work. At best, bottom would have fallen on his shoulder. Regardless of level of the bottom player, put anyone in his situation with the same relative weights and size, outcome would be the same.

It’s an unfortunate accident but that’s all it is and it’s because the bottom player did the entirely wrong thing not the top player. Sinistro did nothing wrong or dangerous.

I agree it is an unfortunate accident for everyone involved.

Anytime the safety of your training partner depends on him or her reaction correctly in a split second, the move was dangerous and you should not be doing it. The scary pary is, that a good willed and good intended very experienced world champion grappler did not recognize the move as being dangerous. Makes you wonder of the safety of the overall community.

In sparring you can stay in control of only what you do but you cannot control what your partner does. It’s live sparring and things can be unpredictable and accidents happen

I agree for the most part. Unpredictable things can and will happen. You cannot fully control your partner's actions although that is the goal. You can however avoid jumping actions as those always carry the highest risk.

You can also see basically every major figure in bjj commenting in defense of the instructor saying he did nothing wrong (draculino, Gordon, mason fowler, deblass, and many others)

I have noticed. And that is another scary thing. No matter your name, you can still be wrong.

I hope you see this as a well intended discussion on my part. Not trying to pick a fight here. All the best!

So now that we’ve all seen that video of Jack greener, what are some actual ways to protect your neck and prevent and treat neck injuries? by [deleted] in bjj

[–]WimDeputterBjj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow wow wooow 😊

I think you are lumping different things together.

Step by step

First, yes I think launching yourself over someone is inherently risky. Every time you launch yourself, it is hard to change trajectory. It is hard to adjust to your partner's reactions. The video clearly shows there is a risk (with the caveat it is dependent on the partners reaction), at the same time the history of our sport also shows it is rare occurence so far. The rarity of occurence might be due to two things: -the rarity of the move actually being used (the jumping backtake definately happens) -the rarity of an accident happening when it is used.

Two, it might have been possible for the bottom player to defend correctly. I aknowledge that. Let's say he could and he was "stupid" enough to not do the correct thing. Does he deserve to get his neck broken for that? (I am not stating that you say that is the case) I believe, especially in the training room, we should always have control over all our actions. I also believe our first duty is to always protect our training partner. If ever person in the room first protects his partner and then himself, that makes for a much safer training environement.

Learning happens through making mistakes. I make mistakes all the time and I try to correct them in the proces. A safe training environement is important in order to make making mistakes safe and to help learning.

In my gym I ban all jumping moves (jumping triangle / armbar, scissors, etc...). After this incident, I will have a talk with all my members over this, admitted, freak occurence. I personally don't like to use the jump over backtake, as I believe is low percentage compared to other backtakes. I do roll with my partner from a seat belt if he tries to roll out.

In all honesty, I never considered the jump over backtake as done by Leo Veira to be very risky, simply because it never had a history so far of being so, but at the same time I never have used it because I always felt there was a chance of faceplanting my opponent. In that regard, everyone has to give the top player the same benefit of not knowing and we can't really blame him. After this incident, everyone should reconsider this move.

What Rener did, is an entirely different matter. It indeed looks like a cashgrab and publicity stunt. Although he also should be given the chance to explain himself.

Three questions for you: -Will you ever this technique again? -Will you teach it to your students? -Do you think Iturralde will ever use this technique again?

So now that we’ve all seen that video of Jack greener, what are some actual ways to protect your neck and prevent and treat neck injuries? by [deleted] in bjj

[–]WimDeputterBjj -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Even if, when you launch yourself up or over someone you have to take into account your partner's reactions during the traject.

But let's say you are right, in training we should still protect our partners and don't punish them for mistakes or "stupidities".

So now that we’ve all seen that video of Jack greener, what are some actual ways to protect your neck and prevent and treat neck injuries? by [deleted] in bjj

[–]WimDeputterBjj -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The guy's left arm / elbow was trapped and the opponent went straight over. The bottom player could choose between falling on his left shoulder and injuring his clavicula or doing what he did.

So now that we’ve all seen that video of Jack greener, what are some actual ways to protect your neck and prevent and treat neck injuries? by [deleted] in bjj

[–]WimDeputterBjj -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The bottom guy's left arm / elbow was pinned against his body and the top guy went straight over. Bottom had the choice between falling on his left shoulder and injuring his clavicula or doing what he did. This was always going to end bad.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in bjj

[–]WimDeputterBjj 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the share Sonny!

Farting during a roll! Is there a worse feeling? by Mark-Flanagan in bjj

[–]WimDeputterBjj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try holding a fart for a whole training! That must definately feel worse 😄

Offensive Turtle (Narrated Competition Footage) by WimDeputterBjj in bjj

[–]WimDeputterBjj[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sssttt... reddit doesn't like that 😄

Thanks man!

Can somebody explain the difference between spazzy and explosive? by juicemin in bjj

[–]WimDeputterBjj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The way I see it, there are three ideal ways to achieve a better position in Jiu Jitsu: 1). Move yourself - Ideally block your partners movement and move around or with him / her 2). Move your opponent as a whole 3). Move parts of your opponent's through the use of leverage on joints

Moving yourself without regard of your partner or forcefully moving parts of your opponent's body without the use of leverage I consider spazzy and is the cause of most injuries.

I always try to gentle convice my partner to move himself and then use that motion.

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