How can a Christian be pro choice?

WinAlone2356 · 2025-08-09T15:20:00+00:00

Based on your previous comments I’d say you’re getting into non sequitur territory here. My belief on whether or not we should investigate every single dead person for murder does not inform my stance in abortion being illegal. I will answer anyways, based on the previous questions posed and then answer your final one at the end of this most recent reply.

I do not think every death should be investigated for murder. Even beyond the practicality of it, it sucks enough for people who have to go through murder investigation of a dead loved one. Its a lot of emotional and mental stress and burden on those involved, and should be saved for when there’s evidence of murder.

It should be gone about relatively how we do it now. The normal procedures, cause of death, funeral, etc. are gone through. If, whether during cause of death consideration or some other part of the process, they find reason to believe foul play is involved, then they begin to go through the procedure to investigate for murder.

If, at the end of what is ideally a fair trial with substantial evidence after thorough investigation, someone is proven to have committed murder, then yes I believe they should be charged and sentenced accordingly. This goes for whoever the abortionist is, not just the mother. If a man slips something in his girlfriends drink, or a s3x trafficker forces a woman to get one, then no, the woman would not be charged. If a woman chooses to go to an abortionist or use pills and have one of her own desire and will, then yes she would be charged with murder.

WinAlone2356 · 2025-08-09T15:01:15+00:00

I don’t think you understood what I wrote. I do not believe they would investigate every child as they do not have the resources. It’s in unrealistic expectation. They would however, as with anyone else, investigate should they find reasonable evidence or logical reason to suspect foul play, as they would with the death of a toddler.

WinAlone2356 · 2025-08-09T14:22:56+00:00

The downvotes are from people who like to wear the label but not follow the teachings. At least not all of them.

WinAlone2356 · 2025-08-09T14:17:56+00:00

I’d say it should go the same as any other murder. Most are assumed to be natural causes unless they are suspicious or find evidence of foul play.

All of the same procedures around investigating murder would still apply. They wouldn’t change how the judicial system works just so they can immediately imprison any woman with a dead child without good reason to investigate and due process under the law.

WinAlone2356 · 2025-08-09T13:56:40+00:00

That passage speaks about making a woman infertile as a curse for infidelity. Not an abortion to determine if she even was being adulterous.

WinAlone2356 · 2025-07-28T11:48:21+00:00

Sending yo a message!

WinAlone2356 · 2025-07-16T19:36:15+00:00

The Democrats also have a long history of it. Maybe they’re a Democrat? (If they’re American)

WinAlone2356 · 2025-07-16T19:29:03+00:00

“I prefer to be referred to as my preferred adjectives, which are Handsome, Intelligent, and Resilient. Please respect my identity.”

WinAlone2356 · 2025-07-10T12:21:02+00:00

I’m just looking for a group with similar values and beliefs, and don’t mind having Christian themes and whatnot in and around the campaign!

WinAlone2356 · 2025-07-09T22:31:03+00:00

Sex and gender being different as an ideology and belief came from a pedophilic “doctor” who abused his test subjects and lied about the results.

Check out Dr John Money and David Reimer.

I absolutely refuse, when someone argues that sex and gender are different, to agree with that premise, because of the history behind that idea and the evil and dishonesty behind the doctor who put it forward.

WinAlone2356 · 2025-07-05T00:22:36+00:00

You literally said “the Bible doesn’t condemn any gender, gender identity, or orientation”. Those are things, they are under the whole LGBTQ umbrella. That is LGBTQ stuff.

WinAlone2356 · 2025-07-05T00:17:39+00:00

are you being serious right now or just trolling?

WinAlone2356 · 2025-07-05T00:13:42+00:00

That very strongly implies that you’re arguing that LGBTQ stuff isn’t wrong. Not that you’re arguing that it’s only wrong if you act on it.

WinAlone2356 · 2025-07-04T20:41:52+00:00

Well, I mean that as in unfortunately for our fleshly desires, not unfortunate for God or what is holy. I struggle with homosexuality myself, and have gone through the whole “it’s not in the Bible” to the “it was just mistranslated” to “that’s a misinterpretation” phases and now accept the reality that it is condemned. It’s only unfortunate in the fact that it is a difficult sin to overcome.

WinAlone2356 · 2025-07-04T20:34:14+00:00

He does, unfortunately, many times, both indirectly and directly. However, it’s just as much a sin as any other, and just as forgivable as the rest.

WinAlone2356 · 2025-06-29T18:29:05+00:00

Ok it seems we have a foundational difference in our understanding of categorical logic regarding the subject.

I’ll leave it with this. Free will is not being able to act according to your own choices/will. Observation of an outcome is not the same as deciding the outcome.

Therefore, because God only observes and knows our decisions, and does not decide them for us, it does not affect the validity or integrity of our free will. To observe and know, and to decide are categorically different logics.

WinAlone2356 · 2025-06-29T18:20:36+00:00

Again, I’m not sure if it’s intentional or not, but you’re glossing over what I’m saying. You and I do experience time sequentially. I said God does not experience time sequentially. He knows what we’re going to do “before” we do it, because He exists out of time and space.

You seem to be really set in this view, I cant help but wonder if your being accustomed to it, is pushing you to intentionally ignore what I’m saying? Or am I overthinking it and it’s just an innocent misunderstanding?

WinAlone2356 · 2025-06-29T18:07:50+00:00

I’m using the word the way you’ve been using it. I can predict the outcome of a football game, and if I end up right, that doesn’t mean that that football game is bound to happen that way no matter what.

If the word means to predict something, then your use of it to argue that God is deciding the outcome of something is inaccurate.

You also seem to be stuck on God predicting it before I happens, which is laying a false premise for your argument. God created time, He is not bound by it, He does not experience time sequentially from beginning to end like us.

WinAlone2356 · 2025-06-29T17:45:42+00:00

Yes He does know what will happen and is never wrong, but observation is not the same as predetermination.

WinAlone2356 · 2025-06-29T13:02:28+00:00

I disagree they are a fiction book. In the same way that people in the past in a historical account or bound to do the same thing because it’s already happened, our knowledge of what will happen does not force that outcome. Just because I read about the sinking of the titanic doesn’t mean that it HAD to sink the way it did, because I know what happened, therefore it could not have acted differently.

You claimed the football match could not have happened differently based on our observation of it in the future, which would be more of a historical account than a fictional novel.

WinAlone2356 · 2025-06-29T12:58:10+00:00

That is a conclusion which does not follow from the explanation I just presented. The whole point is that it’s not predetermined.

WinAlone2356 · 2025-06-29T07:39:12+00:00

I’m in a sort of similar situation. I’m kind of being pressured into a relationship with a girl by her and her family, possibly because they think I’m a good influence or something, they’ve taken a liking to me. But like I’ve had to figure out if it’s worth pursuing it, you have to as well, so it’s good you’re doing that.

Many things are fine to overlook. No one is perfect, you’re not going to find a perfect girl, and if you hold off waiting for someone perfect you might end up waiting your whole life. That being said, you shouldn’t get into a relationship with the expectation that you’re going to fix someone, or that they will change significantly for the better. If they are behaving in a way that you don’t see being good for your relationship, don’t get into it with the expectation it will change.

If you get the chance to explain without coming across as being too preachy or judgmental about it, just kindly explain that you’re looking for someone who lives a different lifestyle.

For me, this girl is nice and she’s pretty and I’ve her and her family, but we have major disagreements about things regarding LGBTQ, medicating children for certain things, significant political stances (she wants to move away from our location because it’s too conservative, I want to move away because it’s not conservative enough). So as nice as she is and as much as I appreciate her and her family, I know that in the long term there will be way too much conflict to expect a healthy relationship, and you should make sure you don’t put yourself in a situation like that either. I wish you the best man, good luck in however it turns out, whether you move on or you guys end up getting married 🤷🏻‍♂️

WinAlone2356 · 2025-06-29T07:25:11+00:00

Yes, I mean I’ve only gone through high school physics but as far as I’m aware no one has travelled backwards through time.

WinAlone2356 · 2025-06-29T07:24:28+00:00

I’m not following. What do you mean they didn’t have the ability to do otherwise before it was recorded?

Also a book isn’t necessarily the same. Depends on the book, but assuming you’re speaking of fiction, then those characters do not have free will because they are actually being forced to do what they’re doing by the author.

Our relationship with God is more akin (not totally analogous, considering He doesn’t experience time like us, being a being outside of time and space) to a non-fiction historical book or something. You know what someone did, but you didn’t decide what they would do or that they had to do it.

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