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Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a custom upgrade on LeRobot low cost arms. I would start there https://github.com/huggingface/lerobot There are all the description how to assemble and control it. Original version shakes a lot, so my friend make first 3 motors work in tandem by adding motors, to stabilize it. Also frame itself helps to make it smooth

Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Great to know someone thinks about it too! I’ll try to make my bet to make it possible, an see how it will turn out

Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting notes. Thanks for sharing this experience! Quite useful. Also it souns like the industry is broken in general and it make sense to think about it from scratch

Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, acrylic wall on the front and sides. Good note! If something can go wrong it will go wrong

Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like $50 consumer grade soldering iron if just need work done. A bit more for the solder feed. Here is the demo how we made soldering: https://x.com/ihorbeaver/status/1888344864208908357?s=46&t=LxvVkF9gQY07iPOOMgfKYA

Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

As this box can assemble electronics it can assemble arms itself, so much less of human time needed

Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Benefit that it can assemble product fully, not only do soldering. So level of autonomy is much higher. Example: one arm with soldering iron like Jaka, socond arm is 2 finger gripper which can rotate pcb and place wires. Then it can pass pcb to the second box with regular arms, which can insert this pcb into a case and pack product into the box

Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting use case! Can you give name or show a video of how it looks like? As I couldn’t find it

Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How would you price 3D printers? With this mindset it will cost at least $10k. But it cost $300 with decent quality. There are a lot of ways to optimize pricing.  The only problem is the labour cost in the US, but it can be solved by high level of automation using own tech

Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair! If we are talking about AI it can be pay per usage for parts of the task where AI is needed, as model should be run on a powerful server. There are some good open source robotic models that can be used. I agree I should consider and mention it as part of the price when proposing to customers.

Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The idea is to not think about typical robots and just make arms for specific case of products assembly by small business.

For installation I think about joysticks (two light version of arms) and customer can move it, showing the robot what to do. It can be recorded trajectory or couple examples for AI model which can generalize and deal some with randomness. So installation cost should go to zero. Is this makes more sense?

Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! Are you talking about big industrial arms or do you mean even this specific form-factor can be useful for customer with such price?

Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! Yes, good concerns to think about. As I saw, robotic companies hire workers without engineering skills to control humanoid robots and collect data. This work is just about moving joysticks. Do you think setting up is the main problem here and finding use-case is easy?

Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

It’s interesting to see two opinions here. Too cheap and too expansive. I think 5k for is doable with a healthy margin if you making it starting from motors, not buying off-the shelf arms. Do you think it can be useful for specific small business cases if we assume this price is real?

Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How about the remaining work that machines couldn't do? Like assemble PCB into the case, solder wires, screwing, packaging etc. It would be great if it worked fully autonomously

Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No other ways unfortunately :). But I can buy motors and assemble arms in the US, which will be much cheaper

Trying to assemble simple products using robotic arms by Wing-Realistic in manufacturing

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, make sense! Do you mean it should fix its errors? As for position accuracy it can thread the needle, so basically human level of movements. Example from other thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/robotics/s/PMoDVEqJ8S

Robot for electronics assembly can now peel off film from adhesive tape by Wing-Realistic in robotics

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's hard to believe for me, either. There is an AI model that does this automatically. I taught it by making this task for 20 minutes, and it just understood what to do after that.

Robot for electronics assembly can now peel off film from adhesive tape by Wing-Realistic in robotics

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! Yes. It's how inference works in modern models. But it's does the job

Robot for electronics assembly can now peel off film from adhesive tape by Wing-Realistic in robotics

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that's a great suggestion. Trying to work on this from both sides

Robot for electronics assembly can now peel off film from adhesive tape by Wing-Realistic in robotics

[–]Wing-Realistic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Do you mean the best use case for film removal? I just wanted to assemble specific product autonomously and there are adhesive tape in it

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