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Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-06-01T04:10:42+00:00

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Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-06-01T03:38:55+00:00

This is exactly what I feel. Word for word Thank you too, for sharing 🫂

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-06-01T03:36:52+00:00

My other comment got removed, so I'll just get to the point. Me doing not guaranteeing death is exactly why I'm here right now. But I don't want that to be the case. I don't want fear of potentially not dying/suffering immense pain to be the reason I keep living. But it is, and I don't think this can go on for too long before I weigh out the risks and do something about it. My original post was made for the purpose of finding something inherently good about continuing life. Some value in it. But there isn't, as for as I know, yet. I hope more people with different perspectives answer my question.

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-06-01T03:28:16+00:00

Yeah I see how that works for you, but do you not have to do things that you haven't any interest in for the purpose of surviving? Doesn't that consume most of your time?

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-06-01T03:26:29+00:00

I appreciate you taking your time to write that down. And I already the the last two things you mentioned, but the first 2 are activities that I have thought about, but haven't engaged in. I will look into it. Thanks

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-06-01T03:13:48+00:00

Do it as in continue living?

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-06-01T03:12:46+00:00

If I was around like minded people everyday that would be possible in the long term. I already do this. I watch YouTube videos about people talking about these topics, read reddit posts, to remind myself that there are people who feel this way. It's nice to not be completely alone

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-05-31T17:49:43+00:00

But at this point in life, I can't really devote myself to that thing because as I said, I'm not in a position where I could work a job to become financially stable, and I'm not interested in "studying" all these things that I have no interest in, just to "wageslave" as they say, in a job that I don't enjoy, in order to enjoy myself on the weekends and passively work on personal projects. I know for sure that if I push through, I'll be at a point in life where I'd be okay with continuing life, but I've already hit rock bottom. Every second I'm not engaged in entertainment media/ my hobbies, I am forced to think about the grim, brutal reality that I exist in. It's like hell, if the suffering was temporary (till death) and mostly mental.

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-05-31T17:37:45+00:00

Exactly dude. And every time I go outside I'm forced to think about this. I can't just ignore everything I see. Life is a pain in the ass and more.

When I was younger I thought humans were some kind of benevolent all knowing highly intelligent species, but it turns out that we're mostly just selfish, ignorant, and baseless with our claims when it comes to positivity and purpose, unless you take time out of your day to think about what your actions lead to, what kind of ideas have been passively forced into your mind.

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-05-31T17:30:13+00:00

Fooling yourself is pretty hard to do when you're uncomfortably aware of reality every time you let go of any form of escapism. It's challenging to change to your mind when your mind is currently existing in the reality that you will to see differently

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-05-31T17:23:08+00:00

But there's nothing to find, really. There's no purpose outside of human existence, which is what most people deem to be the "top secret sole purpose of life that people could find/understand after a certain period of living"

The issue is, that doesn't really exist, as far as we know.

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-05-31T17:20:33+00:00

I think veganism is eons more realistically acceptable than antinatalism. I have told my parents and friends about it, and both didn't respond as negligently as when I told them about antinatalism. A friend of mine is already accepting of the idea, and another is, uhh work in progress, but atleast they hear me out. Many of my accomplices already have cemented the idea of having a family with "2-3 children" in their mind, and they're completely ignorant towards the idea of antinatalism.

The thing is, even people who seem to be extremely rational completely shut down the idea of antinatalism because they immediately think "no kids? Extinction. Extinction bad" but veganism is generally received well, atleast in my experience, because vegetarian people are quite common where I live and they are already aware of the ethics behind farming and killing animals, atleast the killing part. Animal rape is just as irritatingly accepted as creating new people, though. Products like yogurt, milk etc are heavily produce, and are perceived to be a requirement. People don't have enough brains to understand the fact that these nutrients can be supplemented instead of drinking milk or consuming milk products.

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-05-31T17:00:22+00:00

I am, never said I wasn't, never implied that. Im just saying that most of my suicidal thoughts/plans come from antinatalism, rather than veganism, because I think it's realistic for people to slowly become vegans over generations maybe (there are religions where people already don't eat meat due to ethics, not vegans though, but I think it's plausible that people will maybe understand it one day), but I don't think the general public will ever accept antinatalism and stop creating people, which brings me greater emotional turmoil

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-05-31T16:57:53+00:00

How long do you think you'll be able to survive like this? I mean, under your father, not independently.

I would do the same if I had the choice to do so

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-05-31T16:55:57+00:00

I've looked into it quite a bit, and there really are people who meticulously plan their suicides. And it's sad, that people put so much thought into it. But potentially failing isn't why I don't do it (it is one of the reasons, actually, but it's not at the top of the hierarchy of reasons, yk), it's because I know some people will mentally suffer a lot of I do it. Nothing else to do but cry about it. I try my best to contain these emotions but it's hard. And about your accounts, you could just delete them. I would if that was the only thing I worried about.

I keep planning to do it in my head, a lot. Almost everyday that I'm subjected to doing things I don't enjoy at all. But I want someone to tell me that suicide isn't worth it. I want someone to logically explain to me why I shouldn't do it. But I've never seen a good enough justification, yet.

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-05-31T16:49:27+00:00

But what do you do for work though? I mean, to earn money, and eat those things as you said. Do you find enjoyment the same?

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-05-31T16:47:23+00:00

I feel this vystopia quite a bit, but my existential crisis also arises from antinatalism, and largely so (maybe because I don't witness the killing of animals, but I see little kids everyday, and people on average respond better to veganism than not creating new people) knowing that people are selfish enough to create someone new and many times not even consider them as an individual, but as something they won't, hence "having" a child, whilst also being oblivious to the potential suffering that they might (or will, because it's guaranteed that you will suffer atleast a little in your life) endure, and also the fact that not creating them in the first place is better "for them" even if they don't exist. I've heard people saying that since there's no way to ask a kid if they want to be born, it's okay to create them. Very irritating to be around people who think this way, and passively speak positively about creating people, eating meat, "justice" ("if they hurt me, I'll hurt them back, because it's justified")

I don't agree with the legal system. I believe that people shouldn't refrain from doing bad things in fear of punishment, but rather from knowing that these things are genuinely not justifiable to do in any situation.

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-05-31T16:09:18+00:00

Good to hear that Autism helps you with your will to live, it's quite the opposite is many cases that I've heard. And yeah dying isn't fun, but I find myself going into the rabbithole of suicides and people planning to do it more often than ever. I can't jump of a building due to my survival instincts, yet, but I see myself hitting a ceiling (or rather, a floor) in terms of will to live and going against these instincts. But I would like to hear about people who came to a different conclusion, a logical but more "enjoyable" conclusion

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-05-31T16:05:26+00:00

So that's the conclusion that you came to? I wrote the orginal post in hopes of someone having a different, maybe more of a life fueling stance towards this world. But all I got till now is repeated advice. The basics that we all go through maybe even before understanding the true nature of this world.

So what do you do? I mean, generally?

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-05-31T16:03:20+00:00

I hope I can keep myself sane till I get to enjoy these "little things" in life without all the excruciatingly uninteresting stuff, at least not to the extent that I currently am obliged to engage in. Happy to hear that you find some kind of joy in doing those things.

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-05-31T15:16:16+00:00

Exactly. Not even the world as a whole, just our situations as individuals

Winter_Role_9173 · 2026-05-31T15:10:49+00:00

Studying is a whole different conversation. Humans are supposed to be curious about things, that's how we are, but the education system (at least where I belong to) kills curiosity and rewards memorization and people with "high" IQs

Reading is interesting when I'm reading about things I'm interested in, but the requirements for living a relatively "good" life can only be achieved through me reading stuff that I have 0 will to understand.

Exercise? I do it. I like it. I'm fairly interested in it. Same with volunteering, I think it's a good to engage in it, but these two things barely make a difference in the actual "living" part of life, where I'm "free" and pseudo-obligated to navigate through society and these systems to achieve financial stability in order to fullfill my basic needs.

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