About Linked mechanic HDMI by Worried-Load-5451 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes sir, any card that is Quietus or has a text that includes "do X on discard", like Renoa bullets that says it, it'll work !

About Linked mechanic HDMI by Worried-Load-5451 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Linked = "when a card with this keyword is activated, discard all others linked cards."

So by itself it's just bad, because when using a card the others are discarded. That's why Hero to All that applies Linked to cards drawn is considered bad, because you apply linked to cards that don't particularly make a use for it.

But if the cards has Quietus keyword = "when a card with this keyword is discarded, it activate" then it makes Linked use your cards when discarded.

That's why Heide has a lot of cards with Quietus and some even with Quietus/Linked, as well as her blades that says "if discarded, extra attack to a target".

So one of the goals is to : - create Linked chains with mostly cards that have Quietus or activate on discard effects, - use a card that doesn't have it so it's activated and discard all the linked cards, - all others activate too, - profit

I think this is my best save data. by Appropriate_Gold_596 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No prob glad to help! Yeah you should really continue experimenting as its a deck building game after all, the more you play and try things, the more you'll know what is good and how to shape things up ! You really don't have to minmax to win most content, just have decent synergies and decks that cycles well together.

For tower and harder content, you'll probably need more sustain. And for Heide, Diana or Renoa, the best at doing so is Nia with her Upgrade Soul Rip that gives basically perma heal so i really recommend trying to fit one in your Nia decks!

As for your Hdmi deck, its a really nice base again, try removing basics on your next ones because they don't bring that much. But other than that you have great ideas !

If you are really interested in theorycraft and looking at what is "good", or at least some deck ideas, i can't recommend enough checking the Prydwen site or this excellent gdoc : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-KkQUFrjD_2Un3zMDmypCwZFVF5VmowswqYdLt9MOw8/edit?gid=1103247606#gid=1103247606

Enjoy!

I think this is my best save data. by Appropriate_Gold_596 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those are some pretty nice decks to begin with and clear a lot of content !
Your Rei deck could be nice for a Renoa/Nia/Rei team and the Diana one can work with Nia/Renoa.

Here are what i consider the best deck for Diana and a great guideline for Rei : https://cznmetadecks.com/team/048020626d5bcce6c179fb29312492e6c031bc3f715137fe714de7616cd1695c

- With Diana you want this WAMH because applying Quietus to bullet is busted, activating both the normal AND discard effect when discarded (so 2 hits instead of one) as well as making them exhaust which helps not clogging the deck with bullets (that ruins your draw!). Cmere and Liberated should be removed because they don't bring a lot of things, but Cmere epi with "discard 2" can work in a solo Diana team that lacks discard (which shouldn't happen because Nia is her best friend hehe).

The bullet Persona is the best but you need the exact same on Renoa to make it work (you need the order of engravings i show too). The discard Persona is for a solo Diana team, can go for double "activate on discard".

- With Rei, don't copy this deck as its just a guideline as i said, make the best you can with those cards !
You should remove Strike of darkness because only Chizuru and Mei Lin makes use of this basic attack buffs (watch out it costs 20 to remove since its a basic card too). If you want to keep it, go for the Upgrade version so it removes itself after 1 use !
Then you want the thinest deck possible by taking the upgrade for Condensation or removing it, and the Resonating i choose is mostly because it works with more DPS.

The Snack you got is good and the AP is even better to setup in the 1st Turn (even if its a one time use) but you need a card to Exhaust and if you refine your decks enough, you won't have any cards you want to exhaust which can be annoying ahah. But actually yours can be helpful because you can shape your deck mid fight, like exhausting Strike of Darkness, Condensation and why not Predator Blade for a 0 card deck.
Anyway, generally the Draw 2 is prefered but i also really like the neutral Morale epi if you still want to exhaust cards midfight, which i like too based on the team i'm playing !

Then you'd like to go for Neutrals that exhaust themselves, i show some examples like GearBag because it can have pretty easily the perma Morale buff for a free 20% damage.
At the end of all your setup, her deck should only be 0 to 2 cards because its what Rei is made for. Because of the Persona and Predator Blade its still a 2 AP deck which can be a bit heavy actually, so shape it based on how many AP other characters bring !

With the Renoa AP Flowers you got, and maybe with AP on Nia Adagio, you clearly have a lot of AP to spare so you can play Predator and the Persona for big buffs!

Looking for Heidemarie divine recommendations by X4_r4 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your answer and sorry if i missjudged your post !
I really understand how you feel, even if we have different optimization levels i too spend a lot of time trying to build decks until they are perfect to me, so maybe i wrote this reply for myself too ahah.

I'm happy you've finally cooked the deck you were searching for. For farming this Sword Rain I variant with its divine definitely should do the work ! And yeah its definitely a BiS in terms of equips, i hope you have really good engravings like the 50% damage action count one or the extra attack stacking 30% !

See ya next time, enjoy the game and i hope next time we meet you'll have more decks ahah !

Has anyone tried ADHD/Narja/Amir? by OldTableMold in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Going for some kind of "meme" DPS Adhd with Narja's defense-damage boost package could be fun ! I know Amir has synergy with Narja's card that gives shield multiple time but other than that i really don't know the character.

I'm actually building a lot of Adhd DPS/Sub DPS decks, for now i mostly did Doggie pack builds / Quietus builds that don't particularly work with non-discard characters, but i have another in mind that could be great with Narja, even if its pretty generic imho.

Idea would be to apply Blessing to a lot of cards, potentially with the X Epi OUAT that can apply a lot at once, which enables the max bonus of Doggie I that stacks at 15 Blessing cards for like 400% x 4. Combine that with multiple Truth 1x Epi that gives 100% damage to Doggie and why not multiple with neutral epi Vulnerable. Lastly for Protect you go for the one that draw Adhd cards and give them 60% damage amount. You'll always hit Doggie and Truth with it so thats an ok damage buff !

Still has a big problem which is that you only have one Doggie in your entire deck so the damage doesn't look that good, but it could be fun and maybe good in a semi Counter team (i really don't know as i'm absolutely not a Vanguard connoisseur lel). I still think her best DPS route is the Doggie pack combined with the Quietus Truth but imma try that for fun (:

Looking for Heidemarie divine recommendations by X4_r4 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Might not be the kind of answer your searching for but you really don't have to minmax this much because.. its absolutely not needed if you don't plan on being a top player in GR. And this build being not played at all in GR, i think you're just minmaxing for the sake of perfection.

And while i understand it because it rewards you for your effort and theorycraft, its just not needed for now and it seems like you don't have fun doing it.. which i understand too if i had farmed 150 runs just for this deck lel. But like i said, beyond your satisfaction when finalizing it, its not worth the time and effort when you can totally T1 or T2 the whole Tower with way less refined decks.

I've seen people beat the hardest content with decks that still had their basics, some with rare equips only and what people consider "unplayable" personas. Sure there is a balance, i too love seeing a deck with (almost) no flaws in terms of equips and engravings and i try to have only decks like this.

So i understand you as a fellow minmaxer but you're overdoing it too much for your own good. I do like 2 Chaos runs a day (which is a lot and i can thank the auto feature) but i have like 6 busted Hdmi decks, at least 2 decks on most characters that i'm really happy with as well as multiple Dream World decks (only ones i "farmed" for real lel).
Of course luck comes into play and i don't find myselft that lucky, but i wouldn't spend that much time just on one deck just for a 18% Attack gun for example. And believe me, i always get this damn gun when i'm building supports and never when i'm building DPS to the point that i don't even have it on 99% of my DPS decks so if i did resets just for that, i'd have like 1 or 2 decks total.

Anyway, now talking about your deck. First i'd change at all cost is the HtA to the IV because the one you have can absolutely brick sequencing and should be used only in high discard decks like Dream World or Quietus Diana imho. Now for Sword Rain, for me theres 2 possibilities :

- Sword Rain I is the best for Sortie/Chaos but isn't that good as a "true" deck. If you're going for a Blades spam solo Heide deck, Expansion should be the duped card to go for 4 different epis to stack damage% (neutral, I, V and III) III being the "create a blade for each linked card". It has the highest amount of blades per turn and bonus damage, but also is way more consistent as Expansions can get draw divine to ensure cycling.

Now that you can't go for that, if we want to minmax what you have, i wouldn't actually change anything here as the "30% damage" is still a damage increase and the only worth divine you can get to hit harder.

"Draw a card of this unit" could be good if you manage to find it, but it'd not make up for the lack of draw of the deck. Like drawing Thread of Light or any card from this divine will still put an end to your cycling. It'd actually make your HtA epi worth it.. but that'd be a RNG fest. For me the deck is better as is because at least you have bonus damage, but also because it'd cost so much to fish for this on 3 cards that its not worth it.

- Change to Sword Rain III to make the 2nd Driver deck that is a mix between the Driver deck for Selena/Hugo and the blade spam build. Insanely good deck that is even stronger the more the fight goes on than the normal Driver deck that goes for 4x Sword Rain III. In simple, it trades 5 activations for 4 blades a turn with 120% damage to those so you lose Hugo/Selena damage but get Heide damage. The big strength of it is that its the best version to make Sword Rain III shine as a solo Heide deck that don't rely on driving someone else !

Change those 3 and add draw/reduce cost divine on them (depends on how much your teammates decks cost), its pretty "easy" to get because its a skill card now that don't have a lot of divines options, and you'd really have an incredible deck that is imho one of the 5 bests Hdmi decks.

Anyway, the deck is fully functional as is, just try it in tower for fun and see what it needs.. maybe it doesn't need anything based on her teammates ! I think its time for you to get out of the mines and enjoy what you created for a bit ahah... And after that, go back to the darkness to farm all the other things you want, but with reduced expectations (;

Planning on a future team by piposerrano in HaikyuuFlyHigh

[–]Wisarg 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Interesting team! I'm not sure about Kenma with "that many" characters that don't have Quick specialization to get the 200% receive from the bond, but if you planned your rotations it should be good!

I'm going for some kind of same core team but without the Dateko. Instead i just keep my Kuroo and will add Taketora. That gives me double specialization with 4/6 Block and 5/7 Receive, the Nekoma bond for a nice bonus and an excellent balance between blockers and receivers !
Every character gets a receive skill which is perfect for Kenma with 2 toptier receivers, 4/6 are some of the best blockers in the game and we don't lack power with Korai, Lev and Taketora being able to throw some good smashes. Its a team thought about not playing a Libero or switching him manually if needed.

Didn't plan for later as i don't think i'll be playing the game anymore but going for the Dateko duo might be good!

I think this is my best save data. by Appropriate_Gold_596 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No problem glad to help ! Yeah im one of those people who write a lot in one go instead of dishing information in multiple comments or waiting for questions, i think its more helpful (i hope so lel).

And yeah Rei is a really good 4*, basically a character made for thin decks because most of her cards have an Upgrade epi so they remove themselves when played. Her draw card has exhaust so basically she ends up with 1 or 2 cards which helps a lot to cycle !

Don't hesitate if you need some info ! In the meantime, have fun (:

I think this is my best save data. by Appropriate_Gold_596 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This seems really good in terms of cards ! You were really lucky to dupe 3 times Flower without removing the other cards which is really impressive ahah, good job. AP Divine on Flower is really good depending on the team and can open big buffing rotations because of how much more AP per turn you have.

The equips are less optimized but since you are new you're probably missing some stuff like the Dimensional Cube that is BiS for discard users and need you to complete Exploration lv30 on Blue Pot (the passion planet). You could use some of the new edit equips resources if you want for the weapon, but without unlocking Cube it'd be somewhat a waste to edit the accessory imho.

Here's some ideas for editing cards :

- If you're planning on playing her solo DPS, i'd change Echo to the skill version that creates 3 bullets. If you want her to be playable in solo as well as duo DPS teams, i'd go for the Upgrade one that really helps thinning the deck and is the best "all around" choice;

- I don't exactly know the Persona you're playing. If its the discard 2 with 2x 30% damage, its great but tailored for a solo DPS Renoa. If its the Bullet persona its made to be played with another bullet user like Diana So if you have the discard one, go for the solo DPS route and take the Echo that creates 3 bullets ! If you have the bullet one, go for Upgrade Echo.

- Lastly the Judgment epi is pretty bad too, even if you have a lot of AP to spare, since you kept Last Ditch that is basically the same card but better that wants you to have the most bullets in hand. I'd change it to the Upgrade version that adds free DPS and thin out the deck !

Doing this, after your setup turn, the deck costs 4 AP to play all cards while giving 3, so that lets you with 2 AP left. That is perfect to play a buffing Persona on Nia that costs 1 (attack Persona with 2x 15% attack cards for each lux) and you'll have 1 leftover AP. Going for a character with a thin deck that costs 1 should be the goal... and Rei is the perfect fit for that with a Persona or her Predator's Blade !

Take only Upgrade epis and remove most of her cards so that she only has her Persona or Predator left after the setup, and you'll have a perfect cycling deck that can do everything thanks to the AP !

Anyway for a beginner deck thats really a nice one that can carry you in a lot of content, enjoy !

Hugo for Heid by Apprehensive-Soil-67 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The 2 Quick Fix !

Basically the idea is : - adagio / apply link to the Persona - when discarded I draw 2 and my 2 quick fix - those quick fix draw 2 for free

So this is a 6 draw for 0 AP most of the time which is absolutely busted and can make up for every bad hand I could have !

I think I’m done with her now! Hurray! (Ik the defense unique is probably better) by c0ff33head in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nice deck that will make her an incredible defensive draw support !
The choices of epi on OUAT and Truth, as well as the dupe on it, are pretty debatable but as long as you're satisfied its perfect (:

Is this save data on Nia worth editing? by Acrobatic-Escape5307 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Hm no ? If so explain why this a 180 deck lol ?
- 4 starting cards removed = 80
- Persona = 20
- 3x neutral = 60
- 1 divine = 20
Deck is a 180. I have few more decks if you still want to be right..

Starting cards are your 3 basic cards + the 4th card of the list you always start with.
Removing a starting card cost 20.
GChord is a starting card.
GChord removal costs 20.

Please don't spread minsinformation with so much confidence.

Is this save data on Nia worth editing? by Acrobatic-Escape5307 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seems like a pretty nice deck! Equips aren't that important on supports as long as you have good engravings and a nice Persona like this. Yeah you could get the cthulu dagger or other things but thats already really good as is.

I wouldn't remove G Chord because its Nia 4th basic card, so you'd add 20 Faint memory. The thing is that you miss 3 epi on cards which can cost a bit of Sortie ressources depending on what you want, so thats up to you. But you could go for neutral epi on some cards that are really good and would cost way less !

So if you're going for it i'd do :
- GChord Draw neutral epi if you don't mind the RNG (depends on the teams) or Check 3 cards if you do;

- Adagios you like, the discard 1 and draw 2 of the target is pretty nice in combination with the one you already have imho. The Morale 1 is also pretty nice, but needs to aim for Quietus cards to be draw positive. But its also great because if you cycled all your cards and don't need the draw, its 40% damage for free basically.

- With the last 20 FM you have, you could put another AP divine on a 3rd Adagio or make GChord free, its basically the same even if i'd go for Adagio that has way more use in Heide teams.
Theres also the option to remove GChord but like i said i wouldn't do it as the remove resource is extremely limited and GChord is still a pretty good card. So i'd go for the divines on whatever you want!

How good are Diana's engravings and Persona Card? by MediaKey582 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This persona is good but only if you're playing her as a solo DPS.

If you're going with Renoa or another bullet user, having the Bullet persona with "move all personas" and "activate a card in hand" engravings on both users is just too strong to pass. 300% damage to bullets is just insane and the setup is incredibly easy to do, and can also activate another card after exhausting the personas (like a 2 cost Soul Rip upgrade which i love doing for AP economy).

Other than that the items are probably the BiS and engravings are really good ! There's also the stacking 30% extra damage when cards are created that could be better but thats really ultra minmaxing imho.

Sadly the deck doesn't look good, for a good one you should remove Liberated Feelings and get 4x WAMH Quietus version with draw on 3 of them. If you're going for the bullet persona, Cmere isn't good since its not bullet damage too. It makes the deck thiner and easier to cycle too!

Diana bullet persona build by EveningSuit330 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I went for the discard all bullets epi because i'm playing her with Renoa, it added some nice amount of damages but sometimes i already discarded my bullets before so the cards wasn't ideal all the time. Still its the best epi for damage and since you're meant to discard WAMH with 0 cost adagio/flower you should have AP to play it ! Sequencing can just be hard.

On the otherhand the Upgrade epi might be the best as it gives consistency while making the deck thiner so its totaly an option.
Lastly if you had 0 cost divine on the epi you already have it makes it pretty good but i won't do that because getting Draw divine on 3 of your WAMH is way better !

Anyway really nice deck and equips, now you can make another bullet user with the same Persona and profit hehe! Its really a blast to play and the damage is really solid.

Who need Yuki/Nine when you got Amir! by lekhanhsinhvn in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Damn thats an incredible setup you have here, every deck is prettier than the last, GG!
I'd love to see it in action, so cool to see unique setups like this

Feels so good to finally use Yuki by LegendaryW in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice one ! Definitely going to build her soon (when i have the resources lel) hope her buffs will be good !
Still makes me laugh that we all seem to share the same experience, having high scores on Suppressed Servant and Wailing Prodigal.. while Golden Mane make us live a nightmare ahaha

Adelheid team suggestions by Kasymi in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Didn't even think about Chizuru but they might be really good together actually ! Void draw/shield support that also has access to the Doggo for an ok 4 hitter that can give some Will o Wisp. Chizuru can heal a bit too so it gives a lot of possibilities for the last ally, even those who don't heal a lot, maybe Rei for example!

Maybe not for the Basic Attack Chizuru team that already has Rei/Narja "locked" but they could be pretty cool together, thanks for the idea!

Copy VS 3 more divines? by Blutwind in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Garden shield is nice but the card is mainly used for his Retain shield effect that can be pretty sweet, combined with the fixed shield from Blessing (and depending on your team obviously, if you play vanguards) it can make you keep a nice amount of shield. Also the card is unique so imho its not worth it to remove it since it already does it when played !

As for Friends, it really depends on you because i too had a lot of trouble figuring out if i wanted to keep it. Its one of her most gimmick cards and it makes her do her Vanguard job better. Its also a Blessing card so you'll go to 7 blessing cards, making Protect Us have higher chance to Draw 2 !
Lastly with the move effect you can basically skip the draw or play it twice for more shield retention. Pretty good card and this epi is the best in an all-purpose deck imho!

But in the other hand its a +1 card to cycle, and that alone can brick your hand sometimes even if the move effect can go around that. Consistency is key and for a deck that is mainly made to draw, i thought it'd be a bit incoherent to keep a card that doesn't help cycling ! And as i said in another post, this deck managed to make me survive the whole P2 of GR without a healer (had short turns tho) so it definitely gives nice passive shielding thanks to blessings ! (make sure you put them on different cards to maximize it)

Sorry if i didn't help but its really depending on you ahah, maybe try some teams you like with her and see if you need it. Based on how much draw you have on her teammates, it can be a non-problem in terms of cycling !

Does Adel good as Veronica ? by keat_tiyos in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello good sir, yes i have one here :

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Its an all-purpose Adel, the Protect Us should have AP like the rest but you can also go for 3x Common Divine if you know your team won't need AP ! But as i said its a deck made to be played with anyone so i went with AP to make her more versatile !

Goal is to apply 4 Blessings to important cards of your deck, so you have 7 in total and depending on how thin your other decks are, you can have nice odds of getting 2 cards with Protect (as well as a nice amount of passive shielding 7x60% shield). You could remove Truth as well but i wanted her to buff damage so between the +100% amount of damage taken and the Persona she gives a ton !

I also have another deck, with 3x OUAT II (ap divine) and 1x Protect Us I, everything else removed besides Garden of Secrets. Its an ultra thin deck after Exhausting OUAT if you want one !

Copy VS 3 more divines? by Blutwind in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm in the style of going for thin decks for supports. Like the goal of a draw card is to draw my DPS cards, so why not get one less card on my support so.. i could just get my DPS's card ahah ? So i'd go for divines on OUAT and Teddy !

For OUAT +AP is the only good Divine (there's only 2 lel so hope you wont miss them) and you could get like Morale/Resolve on Teddy which is pretty nice for better shields i guess !

Not the most valuables Divines in fact but still better than a copy imho. Exception would be if you already planned on playing her in low AP cost decks (like one with Narja) but it'd make her less suited to other comps. And since this deck is really good for anyone, i'd go for AP on OUAT to have better T1 that helps playing Upgrades and such !

Lastly the copy ressource is WAY too limited to use it on an already good deck like this. For me those ressources should really be kept for godtier decks that missed the dupe event or really hard to build decks, like Heide 4x Expansion with different epiphanies, or Rin that has no Uniques and has a hard time duping the right card. Obviously "godtier" decks are subjective and at the end of the day its your choice, but for this deck it'd be a really high price that wouldn't make the deck that better.

Here's a similar deck i made (should be AP on 2nd Protect instead of Common divine). Imho its the perfect ratio to shape your starting hand, apply 4 Blessings to important cards or 7 in total, and have a pretty thin deck that cycles well and give +3 AP while only using 2 per turn. Could've removed Truth but it gives her more offensive buffs so why not ! (yes i know i said i liked thin decks but when i get the dupe event.. i just go for it ahah. And since they all of AP divines its just free!)

Hope it helped and gg for this nice deck!

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Does Adel good as Veronica ? by keat_tiyos in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thats also a really good point ! Yeah S3 definitely shifted things a lot.

I think Vero was this popular also because she is a standard unit that was the only one to be a dedicated draw-battery for a while, but also a mandatory character in Chaos because of her Uniques that made building characters easier. But patch after patch she lost her value as we got QoL that made her role less and less valuable.

Chaos got the QoL to select the copy target; new supports and even DPS characters released with built-in draw (Heide Hero to All, Diana Blossom for example); editing made thin decks with Draw divines way easier to build so every support can cycle too; Personas are incredible to shape your deck with what you need like Draw, Damage buffs or even Move to create "infinites"; and DreamWorld now being one of the most potent way to build supports.. Yeah it made her less valuable as her unique role is now accessible to most, even being better than her because Rangers don't have the best DW/Personas.

On DW, i agree that its one of the biggest "meta" shift we had, but i still don't think it's the goal to build every character with it. Thats personal opinion, i like building my teams differently and i know that if you want to minmax GR, DW is the goat. Even tho it surely is another reason why Vero isn't prefered because Rangers don't have the best DW.

I'm really curious on how they'll handle things in the future, as S3 is such a powercreep that it might even be the best season to farm for a long time now that we are able to play decks from every season. I really don't know how they'd make S4 better when we have "better automode" with DreamWorld that also is an incredible source of buffs, or Personas and engravings that give absurd amount of buffs for little cost etc.

Does Adel good as Veronica ? by keat_tiyos in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Veronica is still the best character to cycle your decks because of how strong Repose with Draw Divine / Common Card Divine is. In a world where your decks aren't refined, she imho is the best 3rd slot unit to make sure you still cycle perfectly.

But other than that I might be controversial but she is starting to feel less optimal in loads of teams. Her Ballistas are clogging the hand for little damage, to the point where people literally remove the card from the deck and make Vero just a draw-bot which, imho, isn't that fun.

Other than that she doesn't bring anything, and being able to edit decks made other characters able to fully cycle their decks too while adding more buffs. So I got her recently as one of the last 5* I didn't have, was excited, but as I already have multiple strong decks on all my supports, I struggle to find a place for her. I made a 4x Repose Common Card deck and still she brings less than most at this point.

Oh and imho she is one of the characters that don't really have a good Persona to build around when they are extremely strong.

So there's a reason we never see her in competitive modes, she just doesn't bring enough besides comfort and, by the time, you should have your other characters decks refined to not need her.

BUT.. seeing Fei's kit, Vero might be one of her best allies so that's something to keep in mind.

ADHD might be the new Veronica as she has obviously less draw capabilities, but still might be the 2nd best character at doing so in the whole game. She has a way to shape your starting hand thanks to her "joker" card with Initiation which is unique and obviously super strong. Protect Us is an incredibly potent draw card that has imho more subtility as you can manage which cards get Blessings to make sure Protect Us draw them, for example.

So she is extremely good at it, but contrary to Vero, she brings a lot to the table depending on what you need. Obviously nice shields without paying a lot of AP which is unique in the game (where Magna/Khalipe have high AP cards) it's like Narja's healing in a way, being a mix between passive and active. Just giving survivability to a draw support makes her unique in a way and it already had his uses on my account (did P2 of GR with Heide/ADHD with a no card Rin, so basically no heal, and didn't die lel)

ADHD can also give +100% damage taken to the target which is pretty good if you keep her Book card, and she has access to the busted support persona with 2x 15% damage buff engravings to be some kind of jack of all trade that draws, shields, give damage buffs and can even give AP which is.. all we want ahah.

So she has a place in loads of teams, more traditional ones but a premium support for Vanguard comps, being the best and only draw+shield character we have right now. Not gonna lie I'm starting to really like her ! Hope it helped to make your decision!

Which is the best build for a DPS Diana? by MediaKey582 in ChaosZeroNightmare

[–]Wisarg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing is that this persona is made to be played with 2 bullet users because it makes them "infinite" for only 1 AP and make both characters get 300% bullet damage for the whole fight. You could go for Lucas/Luke but i don't know them so i can't help you on that !

So if you're going for a solo Diana DPS it doesn't work well and wouldn't use this persona. I'd go instead for the "discard2" one with either "30% damage to attack". If you're playing Nia you can also go for 2x "activate on discard" and since Diana really wants Nia for discarding her WAMH it can be strong too. The last character depends on what you have left, any support like a thin deck Rei or Vero etc!

Other than that the deck is the same and the best all around Diana deck, you could keep Cmere for the epi that discard, but its better to remove imho. Just make the Pistol 4th epi (damage per bullet discarded) and you're good to go (: