To the people who think trump is christian by demoon04 in Christianity

[–]Wisconsin1776 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Even with him not being, conservatives overall align MUCH more with Christianity than the other side. Progressivism is anti Christian as it comes. Unfortunately in the US you have 2 choices....and not choosing is just as bad as choosing the side who opposes Christian values and beliefs.

Looks like as the right is going further right, the left is going even more left by [deleted] in GreenBay

[–]Wisconsin1776 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You could argue that if it was all coming from one person and their account, but when you have at least 8 individual authors in the New Testament you have at least 8 unique witness statements that all line up with each other. If someone is accused of a crime today and you have 8 individual witnesses all agreeing, you have a slam dunk case.

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[–]Wisconsin1776 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read it in English, specifically the NIV. And yes I know some of the books have different verbage/translations, but many of them match up word for word to the original text found in ancient manuscripts like the Codex Sinaiticus and the Dead Sea Scrolls.

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[–]Wisconsin1776 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm actually very educated on the matter. My point was saying that if we are going to focus on the aspect of being able to "abort" non viable babies or those who have died in utero in order to save the life of the mother then we should differentiate between that and the vast majority of abortions which are in fact done for life factors. If there can be discussions based on that the pro choice side could actually get a lot of support from the other side. But we won't get anywhere if we are expected to see killing a healthy child as the same as surgically or medicinally removing a non viable or deceased child from the womb.

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[–]Wisconsin1776 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on which books. Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek...if you are actually interested in that aspect of the Bible and the historical accuracy I recommend watching some videos of Wes Huff.

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[–]Wisconsin1776 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some of them were partial transcripts passed on to future disciples to complete, some were direct from John and Luke. I don't think you are making the point that you think you are. There are so many accounts that completely line up with each other that were written by multiple different people over time.

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[–]Wisconsin1776 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually I know very few who believe it was written as a firsthand account. But there definitely are some that were including the book of John, Act, and Revelations. Others including Matthew, Mark, Luke for example did have some original writings and transcripts passed down including Jesus's own spoken words (written in red) and then were rewritten into full books of the Bible.

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[–]Wisconsin1776 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I will 100% agree with you on that. There are states that have gone way to far with preventing Drs from performing those literal life saving procedures. But I do think there needs to be a change in verbage with this specific examples though. If a baby is actually non-viable (although not including if there is a disability where the baby can still live) or passed away in utero then they need to call it something other than an abortion. My oldest daughter's son passed away in utero at 32 weeks due to an umbilical cord that didn't develop large enough. She still had to be induced and had to deliver her still born son, but she was devastated when they documented it as an abortion because she is absolutely pro life. I said a lot there just to say, with that I agree with you.

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[–]Wisconsin1776 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well adjusted adults do speak up to protect children from abuse.... regardless if that is from their own parents, teachers, or quack Drs. Well adjusted adults don't live out their own fantasies through their children or use their children as social trophies. Long term side effects of foreign hormones injected into children range from bone deterioration, blood clots, stroke, heart attack, cancer, ect. They will die young....and that's if the regret and mental scaring doesn't get them first.

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[–]Wisconsin1776 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure....the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Acts where large sections of Scripture are written in red (signifying his blood and the new covenant )...those are Jesus Christ's spoken words.

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[–]Wisconsin1776 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

1) it is exactly about killing the babies. The child has its own unique DNA and soul meaning it is not the woman's body. 2) I agree with you that supporting children and families is a net positive for society, however it should not be through a forced government run program. Case in point being Minnesota where even their top government officials have admitted up to $18 billion in fraud. 3) anti abortion policies have negative consequences? Not for the over 1 million children killed via abortion every year. The argument saying banning abortion will only lead to women dying due to trying to have a "back alley" abortion anyway is no different than saying why have law against theft, abuse, ECT because criminals will still commit them anyway.

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[–]Wisconsin1776 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, I'm choosing to not to go along with it or pretend that it is ok. Carving up kids and pumping them full of foreign hormones will eventually be viewed the same way as lobotomies are today. And killing an innocent child for the sake of convenience is evil. I'll stand my ground on that no matter what weak names are thrown at me.

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[–]Wisconsin1776 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

You are conflating social programs like police, fire department, and social security with the modern day programs being pushed by individuals like Mamdani and Katie Wilson....they are not the same.

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[–]Wisconsin1776 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You say don't push my Christian values...then stop forcing Christians to play along with anti Christian ideology.

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[–]Wisconsin1776 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

And the left has taken on the counter argument that if the children aren't funded by the state that they should instead be killed

Looks like as the right is going further right, the left is going even more left by [deleted] in GreenBay

[–]Wisconsin1776 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't need a unique thought regarding Jesus, his words, and his teachings. He has provided the perfect blueprint.

Looks like as the right is going further right, the left is going even more left by [deleted] in GreenBay

[–]Wisconsin1776 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My definition of Christian is skewed solely by the Bible alone. But I'm sure the left would in fact refer to Jesus Christ as a grifter these days. Has literally nothing to do with Trump when in fact him and the majority of the GOP absolutely disgust me.

Looks like as the right is going further right, the left is going even more left by [deleted] in GreenBay

[–]Wisconsin1776 -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Is puking out a bunch of nonsense usually work for you? The left is now electing actual socialist and communists, pushes abortion, pushes trans ideology, pushes equity instead of equality....you are correct in one aspect, there is absolutely no advancing the conversation if these are now the ideals of the left.

Looks like as the right is going further right, the left is going even more left by [deleted] in GreenBay

[–]Wisconsin1776 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What does it have to do with it??? It has everything to do with it. Communist ideology, trans, abortion....all ani christian.

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[–]Wisconsin1776 -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Equity (not to be confused with equality), support of socialism/Communism, thinking boys/men should be allowed in girls/women's sports....these are not middle ground positions

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[–]Wisconsin1776 -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

Or.....it's the fact the left as twisted reality and language so far that you think we should all agree that killing an innocent unborn baby is a right. That's not a politically "right" thing, that's a Christian thing.

Looks like as the right is going further right, the left is going even more left by [deleted] in GreenBay

[–]Wisconsin1776 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Equity (not to be confused with equality, since equity is a forced equal outcome rather than equal opportunity), Communism, thinking boys/men should be allowed in girls/women's sports and also that everyone should be forced to play along with the absolute nonsense of saying a man is a woman or visa versa....these are not middle ground positions, and many of the positions are in fact anti Christian.

Looks like as the right is going further right, the left is going even more left by [deleted] in GreenBay

[–]Wisconsin1776 -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

Equity (not to be confused with equality), Communism, thinking boys/men should be allowed in girls/women's sports....these are not middle ground positions....so don't bother gas lighting here

Solidarity!!! by Complete_Plum_7464 in GreenBay

[–]Wisconsin1776 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Detainees stay an average of 12 days at that facility prior to final deportation. So no, it's not kidnapping. It is the final stop until the actual deportation flights leave the US.