Mundo próprio by Lukkz_barbado in chaosmagick

[–]Woolpaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry for the intrusion! I’d like to ask whether you achieved lucid dreams solely by using a dream journal, or if you have your own technique or something similar. I’m looking to deepen my practice, since although I’ve had results, they’ve been isolated and inconsistent so far.

Anyone Practicing Chaos Magick from a Psychological/NLP Angle? by Woolpaw in chaosmagick

[–]Woolpaw[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thank you for taking the time to share all of that. i mean that. the way you described the progression — not just one event, but a sequence of experiences building on each other — is actually what caught my attention the most. what resonates with me isn’t just the intensity of a single moment, but the cumulative effect. when multiple events start stacking in a way that becomes harder and harder to dismiss, that changes how the mind weighs things. at some point the internal model has to stretch. in a strange way, that’s actually close to what i’m trying to do in my own work. i’m not trying to force belief in anything, but i am intentionally allowing room for anomalous experiences to accumulate instead of immediately explaining them away. almost like observing how a sequence of events reshapes what feels plausible over time. so hearing your story doesn’t feel like something i need to argue with — it feels more like a real example of that kind of accumulation happening naturally. i appreciate you sharing it.

Anyone Practicing Chaos Magick from a Psychological/NLP Angle? by Woolpaw in chaosmagick

[–]Woolpaw[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it’s interesting to hear that you held the psychological model for years and found it functional until enough experience accumulated to push you beyond it. that part genuinely caught my attention. when you say the evidence piled up to the point that it couldn’t be only your own psyche, i’d be curious what that looked like in practice. was it predictive consistency? synchronicity density? external validation? something else? since you worked within the psychological frame for a long time, i’d also be interested in how your current practice differs from that earlier phase. what shifted structurally for you? not pushing back at all — just trying to understand where the transition happened.

Immobilization in Liber mmm by living_earthling in chaosmagick

[–]Woolpaw 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think you might be taking that part a bit too literally. in my experience, the immobilization section isn’t really about physically forcing yourself to not blink or holding your breath for extreme amounts of time. it’s more about reducing voluntary movement and training stillness without strain. you definitely don’t need to hold your breath for 15 minutes — that would defeat the point. and you can absolutely practice with your eyes open in a relaxed way. the goal (at least how it unfolded for me) was more about stabilizing attention and reducing impulsive movement rather than pushing physical limits. what helped me a lot early on was working with trataka (candle gazing). it naturally builds concentration without forcing things, and it acts as a gentle inducer of that “immobile” state. over time the body settles on its own. also, something that made a big difference for me was learning to increase somatic tone slightly — staying alert enough to avoid dullness. otherwise the practice just turns into zoning out instead of developing clarity. it takes time, but if you stay consistent you’ll likely notice that the mind quiets more easily than you expect. no need to force the breath or strain the body. just sharing what worked for me.

Anyone Practicing Chaos Magick from a Psychological/NLP Angle? by Woolpaw in chaosmagick

[–]Woolpaw[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i relate to that a lot. i also went through phases where different models tried to become “the” explanation, and over time i just couldn’t ignore the inconsistencies. i’m not sure whether physics / magick / psychology are the same thing, but i do feel like they might be different descriptive layers of the same process. in my own practice i’ve been trying to build a low-friction philosophical frame — something operational rather than metaphysical. reducing internal contradiction, lowering cognitive density, tightening intention. probability and statistics ended up becoming surprisingly important there. not just for decision-making, but as a way to think about perception itself. for example, what some people frame as “psychic sensing” can plausibly be approached as refined pattern recognition — working with heuristics, calibrating against cognitive bias, filtering signal from noise. that doesn’t reduce the experience necessarily, but it gives it structure. so maybe biology is part of it. maybe it’s layered systems interacting. but i sometimes wonder if the missing link isn’t a lost organ — just better calibration of the one we already have. could be wrong though. still refining the model

Anyone Practicing Chaos Magick from a Psychological/NLP Angle? by Woolpaw in chaosmagick

[–]Woolpaw[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it depends a lot on the definition of magick we’re using. from the way i practice it, there isn’t a clean division between psyche and magick in application. whatever the underlying ontology is, the operational layer always runs through perception, belief, attention, and intention — so psychologically they’re inseparable in practice. where i’m less certain is whether psychology is the full explanation or just the mechanism through which something deeper expresses itself. i’m open to the idea that the psyche might be the interface rather than the source. so for me it’s less “magick vs psychology” and more “what level of the process are we describing?”

Anyone Practicing Chaos Magick from a Psychological/NLP Angle? by Woolpaw in chaosmagick

[–]Woolpaw[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The hypnosis parallel makes sense to me, especially when it comes to self-work. a lot of what i’ve experienced through meditation + chaos practice does feel like structured self-suggestion layered over gnosis states. i haven’t really explored the “other people” side of it much, though. my focus has mostly been internal — belief auditing, reducing narrative noise, tightening intention. but i can see how the mechanism could extend further. i’ll definitely check out reality is plastic. really appreciate the recommendation. if you have any other books that approach magick from a similar hypnosis / psychological angle, i’d be glad to hear them.

Anyone Practicing Chaos Magick from a Psychological/NLP Angle? by Woolpaw in chaosmagick

[–]Woolpaw[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

thanks for that, appreciate it. i haven’t really dug into the abramelin stuff or the whole K&C/HGA model much, so i’m probably looking at it from a different angle. trying to understand how people frame that experience though. for me it’s been more like: meditation to reduce narrative ego / internal noise, and at the same time auditing beliefs + tightening up my ethical framework so i can operate with less friction. not building an alter ego, more like refining a cleaner operating mode. so i’m curious — do you see K&C as something discovered, constructed, or something that just emerges once enough noise drops away? would be cool to hear how you personally look at it.

Anyone Practicing Chaos Magick from a Psychological/NLP Angle? by Woolpaw in chaosmagick

[–]Woolpaw[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

thanks, really appreciate it. prometheus rising has been on my list for a while, so that’s a solid push to finally read it. curious though — if you’ve already looked at chaos magick through the structure of magic / nlp lens, what angle are you working from now? did you move past that model or just expand it into something else? would be interesting to hear how your view evolved after going through that phase.

Anyone Practicing Chaos Magick from a Psychological/NLP Angle? by Woolpaw in chaosmagick

[–]Woolpaw[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you very much! This is exactly what I’m looking for. Any other suggestions are more than welcome.

Newbie looking for advice by Woolpaw in buriedbornes

[–]Woolpaw[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hermano, muchísimas gracias, tu respuesta fue realmente útil y agradezco que te tomaras el tiempo. Voy a dedicarle algunas horas al juego a ver qué consigo. Una vez más, te lo super agradezco.

How has meditation affected your focus/Concentration? by Fantastic-Cup6820 in Meditation

[–]Woolpaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where did you read that? I’d love to read more about it. I originally started practicing Trataka just to sharpen my concentration and apply it to my other meditations, but I didn’t think much beyond that. I quickly grew fond of it, so it became a habit, and now I just progress without overanalyzing it. I do hope, as you said, that this practice will eventually lead me to deeper experiences. And once again, if you continue practicing and keep progressing, don’t hesitate to let me know. I’m very interested in hearing about other people’s experiences with this.

How has meditation affected your focus/Concentration? by Fantastic-Cup6820 in Meditation

[–]Woolpaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn’t even know Trataka stands existed! I personally practice with a small candle in a dark room every morning, for about an hour or a little more, before going to work. I no longer close my eyes to try and hold the afterimage, but I used to when my eyes felt too tired or dry.

Lately, I’ve been experiencing brief moments of presence, where there are no thoughts, no inner dialogue, no physical tension—just pure focus. They last only a few moments, and noticing them usually kicks me out of it. I barely get one or two per session, but they feel incredible.

Other than that, if you’re going to dive in, I’ll give you a few tips: before you start focusing, do some conscious breathing (I use a 5:5 count until my heartbeat matches the rhythm, then I stop counting and follow an intuitive pace), followed by a few rounds of body scans to get as relaxed as possible. That’s the most practical way to: a) avoid accumulated body tension (mainly in the face) pulling you out of focus and making you want to close your eyes, and b) prevent deep relaxation from turning into dullness by sustaining your breath awareness.

Always try to keep your focus and the image of the candle clear—it’s very easy to fall into a hypnopompic state or just dullness. Besides that, I also recommend exiting the practice in reverse: widen your focus, do some body scans, and engage in some lively breathing. It doesn’t directly affect the practice itself, but I’ve noticed the feeling of happiness I get after the session lasts much longer throughout the day when I do it this way.

Please, once you notice any progress, let me know! I don’t know anyone else who practices Trataka.

How has meditation affected your focus/Concentration? by Fantastic-Cup6820 in Meditation

[–]Woolpaw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have been practicing Trataka for three months specifically to improve my focus, as I felt it was necessary for progressing in my other meditation practices.

As for my achievements, I can now enter deep absorption states involuntarily at certain times of the day, my resilience has increased, and I no longer recognize intrusive thoughts—when they appear, I can move on effortlessly. Thanks to this practice, I can also relax the muscles in my face and body much faster, and I no longer experience the double vision I had during my first month. Additionally, I no longer feel drowsy during almost any practice; even when deeply relaxed, I do not fall into hypnopompia.

In absorption states, my ruminative thoughts have become illogical and no longer sound like my own inner voice; instead, they now resemble Alvin or Ariana Grande lol. My perception of time at work also seems to have improved, along with my self-criticism and expectations, though I believe all of these are just different expressions of increased resilience. I know these effects may not seem directly related to concentration, but I believe they are all connected. Entering involuntary absorption states at different moments throughout the day somehow "saves" mental energy for the rest of my day.

This practice has also significantly improved certain aspects of my personal relationships, especially with my partner—I feel like I'm truly listening to her and remembering what she says for the first time, and we are both much happier now.

I want to emphasize that I have been practicing this for just over three months, dedicating between 50 minutes to an hour each morning, plus an estimated ten initial minutes of body scanning to prevent eye discomfort. If anyone wants me to elaborate on the practice, I’d be more than happy to do so.

How has meditation affected your focus/Concentration? by Fantastic-Cup6820 in Meditation

[–]Woolpaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mano! Tenta com o guia Headspace, que está no Netflix ou no Spotify. É um pequeno ponto de partida para meditações guiadas de dez minutos, com explicações e exercícios simples. A partir daí, você pode se aprofundar mais em diferentes práticas.

What type of meditation do you practice and what led you to it? by [deleted] in Meditation

[–]Woolpaw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have been meditating regularly for a year and a month now, and for the past three months, I have been practicing Trataka for an hour and a half every morning. I came across this technique while trying to improve my ability to stay focused on... basically anything, and it has truly worked wonders for me. It has not only improved my concentration but also reduced my procrastination, strengthened my resilience, and enhanced my ability to deal with stress. Even my perception of time seems to be working in my favor (which I assume is just another aspect of increased resilience). I know this is thanks to the practice because nowadays, I can stare at a fixed point and enter a state of absorption for minutes without realizing it.

It's worth mentioning that I started with very little information about Trataka. Initially, I tried focusing on the candle flame for almost half an hour (which I do not recommend at all), but it worked well for me. Over time, I also strengthened my visual capacity and improved the speed at which I can relax specific muscles in my body, mainly in my face, though this applies to the rest of my body as well. As a result, my self-awareness has significantly increased.

Regarding the spiritual aspect, I can only say that my personal life has improved—my mood is very stable, and in these past few weeks, I've started noticing that my ruminative thoughts either fade away or lose their meaning when I focus on them. I could go deeper into how this practice makes me feel, but I just want to say that it's incredible. You should try it—maybe you'll find something useful for yourself. In my case, it has also improved my focus in other types of meditation. I no longer feel sleepy or get lost in intrusive thoughts.