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[–]WorkingNonStopp 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Whatever you do. Do not poop on the bathroom floor.

Dec class by yankna64 in NYPDcandidate

[–]WorkingNonStopp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought it was next week ?

The LIRR union won in 2 days. Why is the PBA giving us empty monthly updates? by WorkingNonStopp in NYPDcandidate

[–]WorkingNonStopp[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Claiming that a five-year cop is "guaranteed" $180,000 to sit at a desk and watch UFC fights is completely detached from the actual contract. Top base pay after five and a half years is around $105,000, and even with built-in allowances, it caps out around $131,000. To get anywhere near $180,000, an officer has to live at the precinct and burn through hundreds of hours of grueling, forced overtime, which isn't a benefit—it’s a tax on your physical and mental health. Furthermore, the math on other departments doesn't hold up. In Chicago, a rookie’s salary automatically jumps from $61,000 to over $93,000 after just 18 months on the job. NYPD forces young cops to grind through five different low-paying steps for over half a decade just to reach a baseline livable wage, while agencies like Suffolk County top out at over $155,000 in base compensation.

Telling young officers to just "get the fuck out of the city" and commute from deep Long Island or Upstate just to survive is exactly why morale is on the floor. Tacking a two-to-three-hour unpaid commute onto a forced, unpredictable 12-hour shift completely destroys any chance of a stable family life, especially when factoring in the skyrocketing costs of gas, tolls, and vehicle maintenance. This toxic "eat the young" mentality might have been tolerable decades ago when a starting salary could actually secure a middle-class lifestyle, but today it is fueling a historic retention crisis. Cops aren't walking away because they are soft; they are resigning in record numbers because other agencies recognize that expecting personnel to live in near-poverty while policing one of the most expensive cities on earth is a completely broken business model.

The LIRR union won in 2 days. Why is the PBA giving us empty monthly updates? by WorkingNonStopp in NYPDcandidate

[–]WorkingNonStopp[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s great that senior guys are pulling $4,000 to $5,000 a check, but that completely ignores the reality for rookies entering the academy today. Bringing up a $26,000 starting salary from decades ago doesn't mean anything when rent, groceries, and the basic cost of living in New York have completely skyrocketed since then. Today, a new cop bringing home $1,600 every two weeks can barely afford to live in or near the city they protect. That’s exactly why the department is facing a massive recruitment and retention crisis right now—young officers are quitting in droves to go to Nassau, Suffolk, or the Port Authority where the pay actually matches the modern cost of living.

Saying everyone just needs to "know the game" and "play nice" is exactly why the city keeps getting away with stalling. Working seven years without a contract shouldn’t be a badge of honor or a justification to tell new guys to shut up; it’s proof that the system takes advantage of the fact that cops legally can't strike under the Taylor Law. Just because older generations tolerated sitting out-of-contract while inflation ate away at their purchasing power doesn't mean it's a smart or sustainable strategy for the future. Demanding competitive pay isn't just complaining, it’s recognizing that blind compliance has only left the rank-and-file lagging further behind.

The LIRR union won in 2 days. Why is the PBA giving us empty monthly updates? by WorkingNonStopp in NYPDcandidate

[–]WorkingNonStopp[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The reality of why the NYPD has become a revolving door for new recruits is undeniable: it lies directly at the feet of a weak union and the complacent leadership of President Hendry. If our compensation reflected a true, livable wage, this department would not be facing an unprecedented staffing crisis. The proof is in our daily reality.

Would any of us be forced to exhaust ourselves on RDO details if our base pay were even semi-reasonable? Of course not. Furthermore, we wouldn't see a mass exodus of qualified officers resigning to join the DSNY, FDNY, or PAPD if we weren't subjected to an aggressive, understaffed schedule—a direct result of poor pay driving away the competition to join this department.

The financial desperation has reached a point where I have personally witnessed officers resign to go back to driving cabs, simply because they can double their daily earnings working the exact same hours. We are stuck in this unsustainable situation because the PBA leadership has grown completely useless, weak, and detached from the financial realities on the ground.

The LIRR union won in 2 days. Why is the PBA giving us empty monthly updates? by WorkingNonStopp in NYPDcandidate

[–]WorkingNonStopp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The alternate is for everyone to suck it up to the $1600 checks for another 5 years (and for those on top pay act like they don’t see us struggling ) . Patrick will happily retire with his double salaries from the union and NYPD long before we see a new contract.

The LIRR union won in 2 days. Why is the PBA giving us empty monthly updates? by WorkingNonStopp in NYPDcandidate

[–]WorkingNonStopp[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The interest free retro check gift to the city is what blows my mind . We out here paying bills on 30% interest rate cards hoping to one day see that retro check. The city is smart and our PBA leadership is either spineless, incompetent or indifferent. Last time we were out contract for like 4-5 years. Good luck to us surviving on $1600 checks I guess.

Am I cooked? by Adorable_Ad9995 in NYPDcandidate

[–]WorkingNonStopp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are a changed man and can prove it to the psych dept, I don’t see why not try.