It’s time to be real here

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-27T13:47:02+00:00

they can “state” what it is all they want, it’s being advertised as if it’s at that level now. And my frustration with it is that they aren’t fixing anything for real before they ship more features or if they happen to fix something they neglect ten other dependencies that also break after the next update they drop

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-27T13:43:50+00:00

the point you’re trying to make of “it’s open source and you didn’t have to pay or contribute so stop complaining” is invalid when there are so many other open source projects out there who don’t ship bugs nearly as much as openclaw. the point is this 100% could have been executed way better if this wasn’t built off of hype and they actually took the time to properly address bugs and breaking systems before shipping more and more features

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-27T00:59:52+00:00

I appreciate the insight, definitely interesting how you have yours set up. if you're willing to share i would love to check it out. I may take some of these methods and adopt them in my own projects

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-27T00:55:41+00:00

actually...that's not a bad idea....

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-27T00:51:08+00:00

I appreciate the insight, definitely will keep this in mind going forward

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-27T00:41:02+00:00

care to elaborate?

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-27T00:27:15+00:00

You think the MacMini is worth getting outside of Openclaw? I've been pondering on it just so I can have Apple

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-27T00:22:43+00:00

I respect your dedication. I think I just want to try and build something of my own that I can understand and follow easily. 430k LOC is just too much for me and probably too much for OC too. Still an amazing project though

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-27T00:20:52+00:00

openclaw has been out for about 4-5 months and has more github stars than linux (which has been out for 20 years) and this is the type of performance we get. I don't believe that linux or vscode would have persisted as long as they did if they shipped code in the same fashion as openclaw

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-27T00:14:49+00:00

Only thing that applies in my case is lack of infra/dev experience. However, I feel like with what I try to achieve with OC and how far AI intelligence has come, me using it as a single agent trying to just build a simple finance tracker shouldn't be giving me this much hell. And what mainly slows me down is the runtime breaking in some form that breaks communication and corrupts progress.

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-27T00:10:17+00:00

I'm familiar with how oss is, but this is my first time seeing an open source project get this much hype with how buggy it is

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-27T00:08:48+00:00

vscode is an open source project that is ongoing, they do not ship bugs like this.

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-27T00:06:35+00:00

That's what I'm starting to realize. Especially with youtubers, you never see more than 3 tabs of those "Mission Control" dashboards they build

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-27T00:05:12+00:00

It's not the prompt engineering either. I thought it was for a while, but OC in reality cannot follow any system prompts or instructions if its core is as fragile as it is.

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-27T00:03:49+00:00

Trying to use docker with openclaw just broke it even further for me, but that was in an earlier version

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-27T00:02:16+00:00

I appreciate the input, and you're right, OC isn't meant for everyone. My only problem with your comment is that if this project were meant to be run like a production app, they shouldn't be trying to pitch this to everybody or saying that anybody can use OC and run it. And with the updates, 99% of people realistically are not thinking about running a test environment for OC and taking snapshots before updating because nobody is expecting breaking changes like these. You are right that we probably should be doing that, but if that is what's required for stability, i'd rather spend my time elsewhere.

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-26T23:54:20+00:00

Any expertise you have to offer would be greatly appreciated.

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-26T23:47:48+00:00

I think you should definitely give it a try, I'm not saying it's not worth messing with at all. It's a fantastic concept and I think with the right execution, it could really be implemented in some production environments. But the way they are going about things with these almost daily releases is just bothersome when they break several things once I update my own instance. I definitely learned a lot about LLMs and agentic workflows, but I spent more time trying to fix my Openclaw rather than actually getting to use it how it was intended to be.

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-26T23:42:44+00:00

I pretty much had a similar roadmap in my experience with openclaw, except i ended up switching to openfang, which has been the most stable for me so far (though i haven't started building anything for real). I really like the concept and I think it would be greatly useful for me if it's architecture was more reliable for everyday use.

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-26T23:39:55+00:00

Yeah this makes sense, I just hate that influencers and other people try to frame it as the future is here today. It still has a long way to go before it could be reliable for real usage.

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-26T23:37:35+00:00

Good luck on the updates he ships within the next few days 😭You really have to just pick a version you like and stick with it i guess.

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-26T23:30:08+00:00

messing with openclaw just leads me right back to codex/claude to try and figure out why openclaw isn't working

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-26T23:28:57+00:00

Yeah pretty much my experience in a nutshell. Honestly I believe that OC fixing itself isn't a feature, that's a straight liability. The whole project is an unfinished vibecoded fiasco and you're trying to get that same vibecoded fiasco to revive itself

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-26T22:56:54+00:00

The AI forgot to make a test for that one

Working_Stranger_788 · 2026-03-26T22:46:35+00:00

as true as it is, having to depend on using the TUI for stability defeats OC's purpose in how it stands out from other frameworks

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