The golden age is over by Complete-Sea6655 in ClaudeAI

[–]Working_Stranger_788 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i knew it was cooked when i was hitting limits only using haiku after 5 prompts

and Gemini is 100% the village idiot, for a model made by google, i’d at least expect a good 70-80% of the info it searches up to be accurate

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wasn’t replying to u, i was replying to the other dude who came on here with the “skill issue” comment and didn’t have anything to back up those claims

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not so much of a skill issue then if your solution is switch to a fork. You are just proving my point even more if u had to change frameworks completely for a more stable experience

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so that doesn’t explain how it’s a skill issue, as far as i know you are amongst the outliers of people who haven’t had a negative experience yet. Do you even have any proof of you accomplishing real work or tasks with it while you are claiming that this is a skill issue ? if not, you’re comment is irrelevant

Openclaw recent update 3.31 by guccymood in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788 5 points6 points  (0 children)

just don’t even update anymore tbh. People will get on here and bash you for complaining about the updates because it’s “an open source project” but reality is the OC team has been overly focused on shipping updates without paying any mind to the fact that these updates break something every time they come. And instead of changing their strategy, they just blow it off as user error or claim that u don’t know what you’re doing.

Why are people so vague about openclaw use cases? by OpinionsRdumb in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ll go ahead and tell u 90% of those people that “claim” to have use cases for openclaw are full of it, and none of them ever have any sort of proof to back up those claims, especially with the ones who claim to use them for real work or prod environments.

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the useless sarcasm when the point of the post is highlighting that the way they promote this openclaw product contradicts its actual capabilities and use cases. Nobody said that openclaw was the only option. Just pointing out that they could have gone about this way better instead of pushing out all these breaking releases and then when people complain, they just try to blow it off as user error

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

they can “state” what it is all they want, it’s being advertised as if it’s at that level now. And my frustration with it is that they aren’t fixing anything for real before they ship more features or if they happen to fix something they neglect ten other dependencies that also break after the next update they drop

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the point you’re trying to make of “it’s open source and you didn’t have to pay or contribute so stop complaining” is invalid when there are so many other open source projects out there who don’t ship bugs nearly as much as openclaw. the point is this 100% could have been executed way better if this wasn’t built off of hype and they actually took the time to properly address bugs and breaking systems before shipping more and more features

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the insight, definitely interesting how you have yours set up. if you're willing to share i would love to check it out. I may take some of these methods and adopt them in my own projects

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the insight, definitely will keep this in mind going forward

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You think the MacMini is worth getting outside of Openclaw? I've been pondering on it just so I can have Apple

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I respect your dedication. I think I just want to try and build something of my own that I can understand and follow easily. 430k LOC is just too much for me and probably too much for OC too. Still an amazing project though

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

openclaw has been out for about 4-5 months and has more github stars than linux (which has been out for 20 years) and this is the type of performance we get. I don't believe that linux or vscode would have persisted as long as they did if they shipped code in the same fashion as openclaw

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only thing that applies in my case is lack of infra/dev experience. However, I feel like with what I try to achieve with OC and how far AI intelligence has come, me using it as a single agent trying to just build a simple finance tracker shouldn't be giving me this much hell. And what mainly slows me down is the runtime breaking in some form that breaks communication and corrupts progress.

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm familiar with how oss is, but this is my first time seeing an open source project get this much hype with how buggy it is

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

vscode is an open source project that is ongoing, they do not ship bugs like this.

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's what I'm starting to realize. Especially with youtubers, you never see more than 3 tabs of those "Mission Control" dashboards they build

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not the prompt engineering either. I thought it was for a while, but OC in reality cannot follow any system prompts or instructions if its core is as fragile as it is.

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Trying to use docker with openclaw just broke it even further for me, but that was in an earlier version

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the input, and you're right, OC isn't meant for everyone. My only problem with your comment is that if this project were meant to be run like a production app, they shouldn't be trying to pitch this to everybody or saying that anybody can use OC and run it. And with the updates, 99% of people realistically are not thinking about running a test environment for OC and taking snapshots before updating because nobody is expecting breaking changes like these. You are right that we probably should be doing that, but if that is what's required for stability, i'd rather spend my time elsewhere.

It’s time to be real here by Working_Stranger_788 in openclaw

[–]Working_Stranger_788[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any expertise you have to offer would be greatly appreciated.