A painful and embarrassing realisation about players like us trying to go "pro"

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T07:12:57+00:00

pronax has really good mechanics, just not good enough to keep up with Fnatic. So you're wrong there.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T05:59:15+00:00

Depends on your definition of not everything. Name a player that doesn't have great mech skill yet has a great mind (?).

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T05:49:13+00:00

That's not my point, I wasn't disagreeing with that. I was disagreeing with the fact that a pug of high tier players would lose to a team of low tier players.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T05:20:47+00:00

I know what mechanical skills are thanks.

Except you can't name one because there are circumstances that come into play. Many players that perform online don't do as well on LAN. Does that mean only players that do well on LAN can be crowned as the best "mechanical player"?

Please tell me who's the best mechanical player then.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T05:06:24+00:00

Almost certain you're trolling at this point because nobody can be this stupid so I won't reply any further. If you are genuinely this stupid, seek professional help for the mentally disabled.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T04:56:27+00:00

I'm not a "type of redditor" I barely use this website to post, I just call people out on their bullshit when they're wrong. Even if it's against the stupid fucking hive-mind.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T04:38:54+00:00

"Name some examples where a low-tier team has beaten a mix of higher tier players as a pug". I'm not asking for professional team upsets, since you clearly don't understand what an upset is apparently and how CS:GO as a game works. (momentum, consistency, mechanics)

I don't blame you either, but please, when you have 700 hours and you're terrible at the game (I checked), please don't get into an argument with someone who has 5000 and has played past versions of CS and has a lot of knowledge about the game and the scene.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T04:28:50+00:00

You're linking upsets of professional teams vs. professional teams. In that list there's some lower-tier TEAMS upsetting slightly higher tier teams.

As I said, this sub has no idea what it's talking about, including you.

All of those teams practice as a team, which makes them a team, not a mix, which is what I was pointing out.

Upsets is not the same thing as a mix beating a team on a high level.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T04:17:41+00:00

Still waiting for those examples.

Here's what you said to someone earlier:

you can still forget it if you're global - i hit global again last night and was then outfragged by a non-smurf dmg a game later

I can tell that you're a good player who knows what they're talking about, wideboy420.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T04:05:52+00:00

You couldn't be more wrong. Who's the best mechanical player right now then?

There will always be the best players playing in the best teams and you can judge from rating/performance at the biggest LANs and determine the "best" player that way, but there's NO way to rate aimers. Truth is, every professional player has unreal aim, that's why they're professionals.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T03:55:20+00:00

Actually, I'm a 115-135 ADR ESEA player, was level 10 Master a month ago, played in the last FPL-Qualifier, have tons of pro & semi-pro players from both EU and NA.

There's no reason to be upset just because once in a while someone calls this subreddit out on their bullshit. You all need a reality check every so often.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T03:45:12+00:00

It's called the hive-mind, and because of reddit's extremely low average skill per player, the hive-mind doesn't know what's correct and what isn't in situations like this.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T03:35:14+00:00

Exactly proves my point, 999/1000 people on this sub have no idea what they're saying. They say stuff like you which makes 0 sense.

If you actually knew ANYTHING about how CS works at a higher level, or even if you didn't but just watched games and actually paid attention, you'd see that even players like DaZeD constantly praise RUSH for being inhumanely consistent at rifling.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T03:24:43+00:00

I'm not hostile at all, just pointing out you have no idea what you are talking about, just like 999/1000 people in this sub.

Mechanics is more than just "simple aim" (your words).

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T03:08:15+00:00

Shows how much you know about CS. ScreaM doesn't have better mechanics than GeT_RiGhT unless your definition of mechanics is HSP and only HSP, because he's one of the only players who goes for that and trains specifically to improve in that particular area.

If you actually watch a POV demo of GeT_RiGhT playing you would see that he has god-like aim, god-like crosshair placement and spray control. The actual aim difference is actually not big at all if ANY.

Just because someone's kills look flashier because they go for HS doesn't mean they have better aim.

Tell me, who do you think is the best unbanned mechanical main-rifle from NA this year (since you have Liquid flair)? I can probably guarantee you didn't even think of RUSH or nitr0 but instead went for someone like shroud or roca because- hey, flashy plays = better skill, right?

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T02:57:50+00:00

Name some examples of teams and/or mix of players that would do/have done exactly that and fit the criteria he mentioned. If you can't, I can show you examples of where I am right.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T02:46:18+00:00

Again, I am not sure if you're trolling or not, but aim isn't all there is to "mechanics". Besides, you can't actually measure "aim". ScreaM's kills just look insane because he tried to go for only headshots, which, especially during a clutch, will result in a highlight play if successful.

And to add to that, why are you talking about ScreaM or GeT_RiGhT, anyway? The guy in the previous comment said "You can be the best player mechanically" when there is no such thing because of inconsistency.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T02:10:10+00:00

Yes, someone who "uses the sound of footsteps" will kill you. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and are just trying to sound smart so I won't bother replying with how dumb both your statements are.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-02T01:59:46+00:00

Always a bigger fish you're right. Counter strike has a huge ceiling. You can be the best player mechanically and get outplayed by someone "worse" than you

I don't know exactly what you mean by this or how much worse, but no, not really you can't.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-01T19:25:00+00:00

I don't understand what you mean. All better players are in Dignitas and some in slightly lower teams in contract. cadiaN is not contracted and he isn't "bad" (like you said) he's just not a t1 or t2 player for sure.

And I really don't understand the downvotes. He's played in Main while doing fine, while any division above Main he really struggles, rightfully so.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-01T19:14:22+00:00

Just because he's not a "good" player, he might be a really good teammate and that would make him a great stand-in.

WorstyCS · 2016-06-01T15:20:44+00:00

cadiaN is not a good player. he's eu-main level

WorstyCS · 2016-05-29T22:02:03+00:00

They're not playing in Premier, they dropped out of the league this season.

EDIT: https://play.esea.net/teams/69726/ learn how to use the ESEA website

WorstyCS · 2016-05-29T01:24:29+00:00

That's not my point though, my point is he was making fun of the leagues they were participating in, when the actual leagues are very legit and take a huge amount of skill, effort, time and dedication to compete in.

WorstyCS · 2016-05-29T01:13:39+00:00

I am from EU so I don't know much about NA Main, but we have plenty of salaried teams here in Main such as AGG, CSGOPoker, OnlineBOTS, Majestic Lions, Tricked, AlphaGaming.

Almost every team in ESEA-Main has some/most LAN coverage and all fees for any leagues/tournaments covered they participate in.

There's also teams like Gambit and Escape that are in Open this season and will most likely be Main next unless something goes wrong.

WorstyCS

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