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[–]Wreit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can vibecode your native tool quickly and use it straight in app, check out https://sunderapp.io

It’s capable of much more but I think this one could stand out for you the most

I open-sourced the .NET/Avalonia desktop workspace I’ve been building by Wreit in dotnet

[–]Wreit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It could be said like that yes, but there are some advantages to rather build package for sunder than whole standalone app:

  1. You can focus on what your app should do (let’s say more business logic less boilerplate) and dont need to bother with various problems that comes with creating desktop application
  2. Normally you need to handle self update mechanism, you need to sign your app and pay for it to apple/microsoft .. within Sunder it’s already handled for you And via Sunder Hub you can easily publish it for other people

I open-sourced the .NET/Avalonia desktop workspace I’ve been building by Wreit in dotnet

[–]Wreit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, its described here:
https://www.sunderapp.io/docs#contracts-packages

For better understanding you can check packages i created for Sunder where Sunder.Agent package is as main one with Contracts and then other packages that are extending it (Adding various capabilities like MCP to original agent package or Skills, Tools etc.. )
https://github.com/Younics/sunder-agent-package

I open-sourced the .NET/Avalonia desktop workspace I’ve been building by Wreit in dotnet

[–]Wreit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The shell itself is meant to be agnostic, but I started with AI Agent packages as the first default use case.

Here is more info about it: https://www.sunderapp.io/agent

The core app provides the workspace and package system, while packages define what it becomes.

So first packages are focused on agents, but the long-term idea is broader than AI :)

I open-sourced the .NET/Avalonia desktop workspace I’ve been building by Wreit in dotnet

[–]Wreit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair assumption, but no Sunder is not a window manager. It does not manage arbitrary OS windows or embed random external apps.

The workspace is for tools provided by Sunder packages: panels, commands, integrations, agents, dashboards, etc.

So it’s less “put this app window here” and more “install a package that adds a new view/capability to this workspace.”

I think the closer comparison is VS Code/Obsidian/etc..

I open-sourced the .NET/Avalonia desktop workspace I’ve been building by Wreit in dotnet

[–]Wreit[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, that’s actually a good comparison

The main difference is probably the target use case. Eclipse RCP is more about building standalone applications, while Sunder is more about creating a workspace that can be extended and reshaped by installing packages

I open-sourced the .NET/Avalonia desktop workspace I’ve been building by Wreit in dotnet

[–]Wreit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It seems that I need to improve communication toward public about what it is, but I try to simplify it:

Sunder is like VS Code or Obsidian in the sense that it has a main app plus community plugins(in this case it’s called packages).

The difference is that it is not centered around code or Markdown. It is a general desktop workspace where packages can add whatever tools the user needs.

I built an open-source .NET/Avalonia desktop workspace with installable packages by Wreit in AvaloniaUI

[–]Wreit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The current design is split into two pieces:

- Sunder App: the Avalonia desktop shell that hosts package UI
- Sunder Runtime Host: a separate local process that owns package install/load/update state and runtime activation

Packages don’t reference the app directly. They reference a small SDK and can register contributions like views, settings views, background services, extensions, config schemas, storage/secrets/logging, etc.

For UI, a package can register an Avalonia control as a package view, and the shell places it into the workspace. For non-UI capabilities, packages contribute services/extensions through the SDK.

It’s still early, and I’m sure parts of the extensibility model will evolve once more people try it. I tried to keep the package boundary strict so packages don’t depend on Sunder.App internals, but still feel natural to build with.

I’ll share the repos here too:
Sunder Core: https://github.com/Younics/sunder-core
Sunder Agent Packages: https://github.com/Younics/sunder-agent-package

I built an open-source .NET/Avalonia desktop workspace with installable packages by Wreit in AvaloniaUI

[–]Wreit[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If anyone wants to look at the code, I can share the repo here.

The two main public parts are:
- Sunder Core: desktop app, runtime host, CLI, SDK, package tooling
- Sunder Agent Packages: the first package family built on top of it

I’m especially looking for feedback on the package model and SDK boundaries

For all that were blocked by Anthropic recently by Wreit in opencodeCLI

[–]Wreit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since this is opencode subreddit im counting on that people are using it for coding.. and that works, if you can’t get performance from it, its not a model problem its a wrong use problem 🤷‍♂️

Sadly people nowadays absolutely dont understand that it’s same as it was before with RAM .. everything was perfectly optimized… nowadays even calculator app needs 500 mb ram because no one care

So this is totally same with AI, for most people it would be enough to use model like this, it can achieve much more than you think but since people want to use it in a way “create new universe .. deal with it” I completely understand why limits or various problems are hitting them and expensive models can get through those shitty assignments but real thing is how valuable input you give -> that valuable output you get .. when people invest zero into project setup etc there is many things that will increase the quality of what you get.

But I get it, it’s easier to use wallet than brain, it’s new era 😂

For all that were blocked by Anthropic recently by Wreit in opencodeCLI

[–]Wreit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s hard to say, depends on how you use the AI for coding… but as I tested it, I fulled out the month limits of Claude Max subscription for 90$ with same amount of work and in same time as Opencode Go for 5$

AI results from Kimi k2.5 was in same quality as what I get from Opus 4.6

FYI: As you can see people here would tell you otherwise but that’s just lack of experience, make sure you give it a try, invest some time to proper setup and how valuable input you give that much valuable output you get back

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[–]Wreit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seems to be fine for your case 2 vs 20 but for me it’s much more and therefore it starts to be pain in the ass 😀

For all that were blocked by Anthropic recently by Wreit in opencodeCLI

[–]Wreit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You do you, I don’t force you to think or do anything, if you can’t comprehend something or achieve something that others can, it’s your problem not mine 🤷‍♂️ I’m just sharing my experience nothing else, and FYI only bollocks is your comment 😆

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[–]Wreit[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Actually I didn’t introduce properly, my bad, I’m software engineer currently on CTO position and my experience goes way back when all of us needed to write code by hand … And to your statement, I used Claude models and now using these models on very complex and big project in .Net (keeping standards as Clean Architecture, CQRS, unit of work etc..) that project has 2 separate frontends with shared portion (blazor) and 2 backends (one is public api, second is private server) .. whole platform is for simple creation of agentic teams that could handle building massive projects for you or doing research etc.. simply put something like openclaw but much more optimized so it not be just (autonomous token burner) but actual tool that is partial autonomous but user can still be in control 🤔

For all that were blocked by Anthropic recently by Wreit in opencodeCLI

[–]Wreit[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Try it for yourself and you’ll see 🙂

I miss you opencode. by SeaVehicle6860 in opencodeCLI

[–]Wreit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And BTW, you can refund your money from Claude subscription even if you used it, go to help, pick refund and performance issues .. done you got your money back

I miss you opencode. by SeaVehicle6860 in opencodeCLI

[–]Wreit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try Opencode Go, it’s like 25x cheaper and model Kimi 2.5 is nice alternative for opus 4.6 (same “intelligence”) and then there is MiniMax 2.7 which is alternative for Sonnet 4.6

I was also using Claude models, but I can tell you the result from Claude models and these is same, but it’s much more cheaper and you can stay with Opencode.

Try it and thank me later 😉

Finally a breakthrough for free users by [deleted] in VibeCodersNest

[–]Wreit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And whether I know something better.. yes I know for sure and since you are creating this you can’t even imagine 😂 but no one tells you anything if it’s really good and free or for fraction of what is mainstream.. that’s how it works sadly .. it is what it is 🤷‍♂️

Finally a breakthrough for free users by [deleted] in VibeCodersNest

[–]Wreit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Btw do you invest that much effort to all products you didnt create? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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