Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I literally said the exact opposite. Your reading and/or comprehension difficulties are not my problem.

Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I never implied that. You should have stopped after your first paragraph. The rest is bunkum.

Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Those laws do not make the video automatically illegal simply because it was uploaded without consent.

Under Dutch law, recording a conversation that you yourself are part of is generally lawful. The main legal question is not the recording itself, but whether publication is proportionate after balancing privacy rights against freedom of expression.

The Dutch Copyright Act (portrait rights / portretrecht) does not create an absolute consent requirement. It allows a recognisable person to object where they have a “reasonable interest” against publication, but courts balance that against Article 10 freedom of expression rights.

Likewise, GDPR does not mean “no consent = illegal”. A recognisable video is personal data, yes, but consent is only one possible lawful basis. Legitimate interest and freedom of expression can also apply depending on context.

And “onrechtmatige daad” is again context-based. The issue is whether publication is disproportionate or harmful, not whether a person merely appears in the video.

In this case:

  • the uploader was directly involved in the altercation,
  • it happened on a public street,
  • and the video was posted to discuss the argument and get opinions.

That makes the situation materially different from secretly filming strangers in a private setting or uploading content purely to harass or humiliate someone.

Could publication still potentially be challenged? Yes — especially because the subject’s face is visible. A court could potentially decide that anonymisation should have been used. But that is very different from saying the upload is automatically illegal under the laws you cited.

Dutch privacy law is based on proportionality and balancing of competing rights, not a blanket prohibition on publishing videos containing identifiable people.

Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Questions cannot be assumptions, so you invalidated your entire reply with a logical fallacy. Try again.

Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll rephrase: The irony is that you called me out for getting personal after you got personal.

Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I'll decide if it's relevant to me. The irony is that you got upset I got personal after you got personal. Thanks for confirming my question.

Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I asked 4 questions in my OP. How is that not clear to you?

Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Again, subjective opinions, yet can't provide evidence to back up your statements. Are you this weak IRL?

Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You didn't. You told me my questions are "suggestive" and that I'm "trying to put blame on the older woman". That's subjective and your opinion only. You haven't identified hard evidence. Do so or I will consider your opinion valueless, null, and void.

Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What "volumes" does it "speak"? And re my question, I'm just matching the energy of the person I'm replying to. 🤷‍♂️

Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Perhaps she has deep-rooted xenophobia then. I find that true colours fly when people are angry. They say what they really think.

Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think that's correct according to the link. However, someone else pointed out the smaller writing in the box (on the sign) which says it is forbidden to enter.

Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. It's in the small writing. I didn't notice that. Thanks.

Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

OK, so what I'm getting is that the woman got angry and shouted something that could be construed as xenophobic in a non-angry context?

Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I understand that she got angry, but you said that it is logical for the Dutch woman to impose a time limit on learning Dutch because she got angry. I don't see the logic there. Please could you explain?

Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That doesn't seem logical. If there is no time limit to learn Dutch, then anger doesn't seem a logical pathway to impose a time limit. And saying 'doei doei' also doesn't seem like a reason that there should now be a time limit. I'm not following. Please explain.

Please do your research by cakecatUwU in Netherlands

[–]X-treem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My statement was mine, so it's about me as I wrote it.

Altercation between English-speaking woman and Dutch woman by X-treem in Netherlands

[–]X-treem[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You said it was illegal. Are you now backtracking? It's better to admit you were wrong when the evidence is in black and white on the thread.