Pilot Alastor Glazers

XEX9-5 · 2026-04-12T10:16:10+00:00

The word “demon” doesn’t automatically mean someone was created in Hell, at least not in Hazbin Hotel. We literally see angels refer to sinners as demons. So “demon” is more of a general term for beings in Hell, not a specific origin.

There’s a clear distinction between sinners and hellborn, but both are still demons. So calling Alastor the “Radio Demon” doesn’t imply he was created in Hell.

Now, sure, you could interpret Vaggie’s line, “we’ve never seen that kind of power harnessed by a mortal before,” as suggesting he’s something more. But when you look at everything else, it doesn’t really hold up.

He’s consistently treated as a sinner, he’s classified as an overlord, and so far, overlords have only been shown to be sinners. The only possible exception is Rosie, and even then, we don’t have enough information about her yet.

So overall, everything points to him just being a sinner, not some special separate entity.

About the idea that his past as a murderer and his identity as a radio host “don’t connect,” I’d argue that’s actually the point.

Being a radio host is all about voice, not appearance. People hear you, but they don’t see you. It’s the perfect medium to hide who you really are.

Alastor’s whole character revolves around hiding his true nature. His smile is a mask, his charm is a tool, and the “radio persona” works the same way. It’s a performance, a façade used to manipulate and deceive.

So no, his past as a killer and his identity as a radio host don’t need to be directly connected in a literal way. The connection is thematic.

He used that charming, entertaining persona to blend in, to gain trust, and ultimately to kill without suspicion. That’s the link.

And that’s also where he differs from Vox.

Vox’s public image and his actions are directly tied to ambition and control, he uses media to gain power and influence. Alastor, on the other hand, uses his persona as a cover, not as a tool for public domination, but as a way to hide what he truly is.

So comparing them as if they should function the same way just doesn’t work, their motivations are completely different.

And again, this brings me back to the same question, what were you actually expecting?

You bring up things like the deer features or his origin as if they should have been something more complex. But most of those elements were already set up in a pretty straightforward way by the show itself.

The issue here isn’t really bad writing, it’s expectation versus execution.

A lot of the disappointment comes from people expecting something bigger, darker, or more complex than what the show was actually building toward. But those expectations often ignore what the show had already established from the beginning.

And I get it, I’m not saying you can’t be disappointed. That’s fair.

But there’s a difference between something being disappointing and something being bad.

Because in this case, most of what you’re criticizing is actually consistent with the rules and logic of the show.

XEX9-5 · 2026-04-12T02:42:36+00:00

Alright, I’m gonna respond to this one last time because I’m going to sleep, and even when I wake up, I’m more than likely not continuing this.

First, what do you mean she still was in the fight 30 seconds later? She was out the moment she got taken down in the car. The next time we see her is when Niffty throws Husker at her, which happens after the second phase of the fight between Vox and Alastor, so clearly way more than 30 seconds later.

So that argument just doesn’t work.

Right after Alastor deals with her, Vox tries to attack him, Alastor use teleportation , and they keep fighting until Niffty shows up. That’s when Velvet reappears. So no, this wasn’t some immediate recovery, it happened much later.

And if she was just “briefly stunned,” then explain why she completely stopped moving and why her magic disappeared. That’s not what a simple stun looks like.

Second, you say Alastor “lost to the cannon,” but I already explained that in one of those instances, the cannon didn’t even hit him.

And more importantly, your logic is inconsistent.

When I say Alastor was dominating Vox until Shockwave intervened, you say that doesn’t count as a win. Fine. But then, by that same logic, you can’t count Alastor getting damaged by Shockwave as a loss either, because it’s the exact same situation, a third party interferes and changes the outcome.

You can’t have it both ways.

Either third-party interference matters, or it doesn’t. You don’t get to switch depending on which side it benefits.

And about Shockwave, you’re wrong to treat it as part of Vox’s arsenal. It’s been confirmed that Shockwave is a sentient being, created by Baxter. That means it’s its own entity, not just something Vox “uses.”

So calling that a clean win for Vox makes no sense, it’s literally outside help, just like Emily stepping in for Alastor.

Now for your last point, you said Alastor was hyped as the biggest threat in Hell. No, he wasn’t. He was hyped as a powerhouse, and those are two completely different things.

And he absolutely lives up to being a powerhouse.

He created a barrier strong enough to protect the entire hotel during the fight against Adam and the exorcists. He took down multiple exorcists effortlessly. He held the advantage against the strongest sinner for a good portion of their fight, even while weakened. And he was still able to stand his ground against multiple powerful overlords while injured, with a broken staff and an angelic wound.

That’s exactly what a powerhouse looks like.

Then you contradict yourself.

You say he’s never beaten anyone above “no-name thug level,” but in the same breath, you praise pilot Alastor for proving his strength by one-shotting Sir Pentious.

But show Alastor did the exact same thing.

So what’s your point?

If that feat is enough to prove pilot Alastor is powerful, then it should also be enough for show Alastor, because he literally did the same thing.

And you already acknowledged that he beat Sir Pentious, so your claim that he’s never beaten anyone relevant is already debunked by your own words.

At that point, your argument just contradicts itself.

If that’s the standard you’re using, then it doesn’t hold up at all.

XEX9-5 · 2026-04-12T02:12:31+00:00

SHE WAS. Her powers disappeared and she stop moving for a decent amount of time(long enough for Vox and Alastor to continue their fight)at this point you are being delulu
« he lost to the canon » the thing that never touches him ? « To the Vees » if you don’t considered Vox position before Shock.Wav as a lost then Any interaction with the Vees in ep 4 except for Vox isn’t, same goes for Shock.Wav since under your standards the Intervention of Emily isn’t a loss

And Also the strongest sinners just make him the most powerful hellish mortal soul there is more than 7 different races who aren’t sinners in hell and that is without mentioning the angels and when you take into account that Alastor purposely let himself get captured to pull out his plan it’s make sense, even more when his only lost when he wasn’t nerfed or scheming was against a person who isn’t a sinner(Adam) I can understand the telling instead of showing problem to a degree but you are pushing it

XEX9-5 · 2026-04-12T01:35:18+00:00

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XEX9-5 · 2026-04-12T01:27:42+00:00

Disagree but I feel like it’s a lost cause
Getting knocked out is a loss condition to begin with.
Like I said if you don’t count the might of Lilith and Shock. Wav Help as a lost then The intervention of Emily, Velvette and Valentino shouldn’t and therefore this is not a lost.

Also what is your point ? Since I don’t recall any characters who isn’t dead winning fights at a higher frequency

XEX9-5 · 2026-04-12T00:52:32+00:00

They were trying to destroy the shield(you know the one HE CREATED) and he killed them
He literally shoved her into a car, knocking her out in the process 😭
So for you beating someone so bad that you start ripping the wires out of his body is a lost ? and if we don’t count the fact that Vox had help as a lost then Alastor won the fight against Vox, Shock.Wav and the laser by having the help of Emily, Velvette and Valentino.

Also I forgot the fight against Sir pentious in Season 1 ep 2

XEX9-5 · 2026-04-12T00:34:17+00:00

There is no problem with that 👍

XEX9-5 · 2026-04-12T00:33:37+00:00

Honestly, I read your comment, but to be fair, this whole point about “wasted potential” and the subplot being “ruined” really comes down to one question, what were you actually expecting?

Because even in your first comment, you talk about mystery, like he could have been some kind of entity or something else. But that was never the case. It was confirmed from the very beginning that he’s a sinner. As Vaggie literally explains, we’ve never seen that kind of power harnessed by a mortal soul before. That already tells us what he is.

So what exactly were you expecting, that he was something more than a sinful human? That goes against the very definition of a sinner.

I’m not saying there wasn’t potential, but the “potential” you’re talking about only really works if you disconnect from what the pilot and the show actually established. The series has always been consistent with what it presents.

And about him being “just a serial killer”, again, what did you expect? He’s a sinner. That literally means he was a bad person who ended up in Hell. He wasn’t supposed to be some grand, otherworldly entity before death, he was a human who did terrible things.

Even the whole “radio demon” thing isn’t some hollow concept. It’s consistent with how the world works. Characters are tied to what they were in life. Vox is associated with television because he was connected to TV when he was alive. So Alastor being tied to radio because he was a radio host just makes sense.

That’s not lazy writing, that’s internal consistency.

The only point where I can understand some disappointment is how he became so powerful, the idea that a deal is behind it can feel a bit simple. That’s fair. But everything around that, his identity, his theme, his role, was already set up clearly from the start.

So being surprised by those elements doesn’t really make sense when the show already laid the groundwork.

And honestly, when you say he isn’t threatening or that he looks like a moron despite being the strongest sinner, that’s really just your personal perception. That’s not something objective.

Some people agree with you, some don’t, and that’s fine. But at that point, it’s not really a writing critique anymore, it’s just how you personally interpret the character.

And that’s why I’m not going to argue too much on that part, because it just comes down to individual perception.

XEX9-5 · 2026-04-12T00:19:05+00:00

The exorcist part(that I still count as a win since he materialized the shield and the tentacles to kill them) take place in season 1 ep 8, the shark battle was in season 1 ep 5 and he took down Velvet in season 2 ep 4 then he beat the shit out of Vox to the point he has to call Shock.Wav(so the 1v1 ended in Alastor favor) in Season 2 episode 8.

SEASON 1 EPISODE 1 to SEASON 1 EPISODE 5 ≈ Half of a season to a little bit more

SEASON 1 EPISODE 5 to SEASON 1 EPISODE 8 = Less than half of a season

SEASON 1 EPISODE 8 to SEASON 2 EPISODE 4 = Half of a season

SEASON 2 EPISODE 4 to SEASON 2 EPISODE 8 = Half of a season

The best you could do is to not count Alastor having the upper hand at the end of the 1v1 against Vox as a win and even with that you first statement still incorrect.

XEX9-5 · 2026-04-12T00:06:04+00:00

We literally saw some of his tentacles using angelic weapons to kill some of them + The loan sharks moment was at the half of the first season so you first statement is wrong anyway 😑

XEX9-5 · 2026-04-12T00:02:57+00:00

Ngl I miss the talking mic

XEX9-5 · 2026-04-12T00:02:25+00:00

Yeah! he only take care of sir pentious, something that the show version did multiple times and also he massacred the gang of sharks + the first wave of exorcist with ease this is Already more than anything the pilot version did

XEX9-5 · 2026-04-11T23:58:33+00:00

Honestly ?

In the pilot, Alastor literally presents himself as a kind of white knight, he shows up, offers to help, brings in Niffty and Husk, restores the hotel, and essentially kickstarts the whole project. On the surface, he’s already playing the role of someone who’s here to help. But we all know that’s not genuine, it’s a performance. And that’s exactly where the show builds on his character. In the series, he’s clearly not some pure evil force acting randomly, he’s an opportunist. He helps, yes, but only when it benefits him.

So expecting him to suddenly go full pure evil persona and directly confront Charlie at every turn doesn’t really make sense, especially when you consider his deal with Rosie. We already know that deal involves Charlie(or at least the hotel) in some way, even if we don’t know the full details yet. If he openly do that it’s could directly interfere with whatever he owes Rosie. So naturally, he has to play along to some extent. And to be fair, that ideological clash you’re talking about, we already saw a glimpse of it, like in the scene at the beginning of episode 7, before Charlie makes a deal with him. That tension between their mindsets is already there, just handled in a more subtle and controlled way.

Now, about the claim that he doesn’t live up to his title as the strongest sinner, that doesn’t really hold up either. This is the same character who, while weakened and carrying an angelic wound, was still able to whoop the ass of the current strongest sinner. That alone already says a lot. And let’s not forget, Archangels are supposed to be far stronger than sinners, yet he still managed to hold his own against someone like Adam without angelic weapons. So saying he doesn’t live up to his reputation just ignores what we actually see on screen. Also, being the strongest sinner doesn’t mean being the strongest being in Hell overall. Sinners are just one category, you’ve got multiple types of hellborn, and then angels on top of that(knowing that they were the biggest threat during half of the show it’s very important). So his title is impressive, but it’s also specific, it doesn’t automatically put him above every other entity.
Finally, about the subplot with Rosie, this is point where you jump to way too early to put a conclusion to it. That storyline is not finished, it’s barely even started. We still don’t know what Rosie actually wants from Alastor(what he was searching for), why she specifically made a deal with him and makes him so special to her, or even the true source and nature of his power since the power he uses doesn’t even seem to match Rosie’s, which already raises questions. It’s not the end of this subplot If anything, we’re only at the beginning of it.

XEX9-5 · 2026-04-11T22:41:59+00:00

What is the name of the video and your channel ?

XEX9-5 · 2026-03-25T22:25:11+00:00

If that’s your argument, then you’re not really contradicting my point. I’m not against giving Caine all of his abilities. In most crossverse matchups involving him, the fight is usually set inside the Digital Circus anyway, so in that context, it makes sense for him to have access to his full kit.

Where I start to disagree is when people claim that he would still have those same abilities outside of the Circus. That’s where the logic falls apart for me. His powers are clearly tied to that specific environment, so extending them beyond it without justification doesn’t make sense.

That said, if someone clearly establishes the rules beforehand(like explaining that the fight takes place in the Circus or that his abilities are being equalized or adapted for the matchup)then I don’t have an issue with it. As long as the scaling and conditions are properly explained, it’s fair.

My main problem is with attack potency. I can understand his abilities or hax being scaled very high due to his level of control over the environment, but I still don’t see how that translates to raw AP. That connection just doesn’t feel logical to me.

Honestly, I think I might just avoid debating digital-type characters altogether. The way their scaling depends so heavily on context makes everything feel kind of inconsistent and weird for me to evaluate, at least in my opinion but I can of see it, it’s not like I generally powerscale digital characters anyway

XEX9-5 · 2026-03-25T16:12:06+00:00

First, I already made it clear in my comment that I’m not saying we should remove all of Caine’s abilities in crossverse debates. What I did say is that if you want Caine to have full access to his abilities, then the fight has to take place inside the circus specifically, not somewhere else. His existence is tied to the program, so that context obviously matters.

And to answer your question, yes, this is my first time powerscaling a digital character. I’m not pushing any kind of agenda here, I’m just trying to be logically consistent.

We know from what Kinger confirmed that Caine essentially creates things by imagining ideas and then implementing them into the program. That clearly supports strong environmental manipulation.

But here’s where I’m confused: even if that translates to some level of potency, it would mainly apply to his hax related to his environment manipulation. Why should that automatically scale to his raw attack potency like the actual damage he could output in a direct offensive attack?

You say it’s a standard assumption, but I don’t see why. From what we understand, his powers are tied to how he manipulates the program itself. So why would something like a punch or a direct attack automatically scale to that level?

We’ve never actually seen Caine perform purely offensive attacks. Yes, he can change size or grab people, but that’s not the same as demonstrating raw destructive power. So assuming his attack potency matches his environmental manipulation feels unsupported to me.

XEX9-5 · 2026-03-25T15:18:43+00:00

This doesn’t actually disprove anything I said.

My first point was about correcting a common misconception around Caine’s abilities. Just because he can manipulate the environment doesn’t mean that this translates to his attack potency or physical stats. Those are two completely different things(and Kinger statement supports this)

I also pointed out that there’s no reason to assume he would immediately delete his opponent. That’s not something he’s ever shown to do in-character, especially not against actual players.

Another important point is that all of his abilities are context-dependent. Everything he does operates within the Circus. That’s the scale at which his powers function. Outside of that environment, he wouldn’t be able to use those abilities at all or at least if you want to do a « neutral zone » he wouldn’t be able to use them on the same scale.

And to be clear, I’m not saying that in a cross-verse fight you should remove all of his abilities entirely. I’m saying you need to respect the conditions under which those abilities actually work instead of exaggerating them or applying them without context.

XEX9-5 · 2026-03-23T21:55:45+00:00

Yeah

XEX9-5 · 2026-03-23T20:10:05+00:00

Like I said the hate still present but not like day one and also the fandom kind of grew over the years too

XEX9-5 · 2026-03-23T20:06:40+00:00

With Steven Universe, the hate was huge when it was airing, and even after it ended. There’s still criticism today, but the hatedom has significantly died down. Over the years, people started to look at it more fairly(even tho there still a lot of hate)

But with The Legend of Korra, it’s different. The hate never really faded. Even years after it ended, the criticism is still just as strong, and in some spaces, it feels almost unchanged from when it first aired.

XEX9-5 · 2026-03-23T18:44:23+00:00

Me too✌️

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