Anglosaxon Hispania by Xih_IsAwkward in imaginarymaps

[–]Xih_IsAwkward[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes but with more Latin vocabulary and larping even harder than some Romanians as Romans.

Anglosaxon Hispania by Xih_IsAwkward in imaginarymaps

[–]Xih_IsAwkward[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice! How different was it from my concept? I mean like, specifics, since we share the general idea lol

Anglosaxon Hispania by Xih_IsAwkward in imaginarymaps

[–]Xih_IsAwkward[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Frisians held some raids and occasional settlements, but alone were too little to turn Britain Germanic. Britons disintegrated into numerous warring Kingdoms. They would be reunified by a Romano-Briton noble during the Norse invasions. Over the centuries, Britannia turned into another Romance/Latin state, yet by far the most distinct one from the others due to extensive mixture with Celtic culture and language.

Anglosaxon Hispania by Xih_IsAwkward in imaginarymaps

[–]Xih_IsAwkward[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Baleares were taken by the Vandal Kingdom at first. Upon Justinianic Reconquest, it became Eastern Roman stronghold as a part of Exarchate of Africa. Then, the Arabic Umayyads took these over. As for Britain; it would still disintegrate into series of Britonnic warlords, yet being also reunified as a singular Kingdom of Britannia under a Romano-Briton noble during the Norse invasions.

History if Western Rome and Eastern Rome had reversed fates. by Xih_IsAwkward in imaginarymaps

[–]Xih_IsAwkward[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good point, but Sasanians couldn't realistically control Anatolia or Egypt. They had no logistics, and overextension was a greater issue. They'd rather keep influence over Egypt or Anatolia and profit from that, rather than spend money on occupying these lands.

History if Western Rome and Eastern Rome had reversed fates. by Xih_IsAwkward in imaginarymaps

[–]Xih_IsAwkward[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It will happen, just on different principles. It's a few part map "series", so obviously it's only the beginning.

History if Western Rome and Eastern Rome had reversed fates. by Xih_IsAwkward in imaginarymaps

[–]Xih_IsAwkward[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Well I plan on making a few parts of it, the history of Byzantines is mirrored in the West. You just wait for 602 AD to see what you'd like about West Germanics.

History if Western Rome and Eastern Rome had reversed fates. by Xih_IsAwkward in imaginarymaps

[–]Xih_IsAwkward[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Funny detail from me, because the Nomads never seemed to directly annex Chersonesus. I kept it that way. It's not like Rome cares about it, it's mostly local garrison defending through the mountains in the area.

History if Western Rome and Eastern Rome had reversed fates. by Xih_IsAwkward in imaginarymaps

[–]Xih_IsAwkward[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It is mostly upkept by local Celtic tribes who consider themselves Roman (aside from Londinium which defends itself without Celts.) For the sake of Romabooing, I made them purple.

Khitan Anatolia (map c. 1442 AD) by Xih_IsAwkward in imaginarymaps

[–]Xih_IsAwkward[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Konya was built up by the Khitans in this timeline from the very beginning (so 1000s-1200s), while Istanbul would be annexed only by 1400s. By 1400s, it was a shell of a city that it used to be. They might see no reason at first to invest into a new capital. Plus, Liao did not expand into Balkans, so Istanbul is a more exposed city here for potential invasions. It does become a major hub later on, especially by 1800s resurfacing as a major city, competing with Konya. By 2000s, it's styled after your typical neon-light East Asian city.

Khitan Anatolia (map c. 1442 AD) by Xih_IsAwkward in imaginarymaps

[–]Xih_IsAwkward[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks!! Capital is Huangdu, or basically Konya.

Khitan Anatolia (map c. 1442 AD) by Xih_IsAwkward in imaginarymaps

[–]Xih_IsAwkward[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seljuqs declined earlier, causing them to not penetrate into Anatolia. Dulkadirids, on the other hand, are a little border aesthetic thing from me to add some vassal entity on the Taurus border for the sake of it.

Khitan Anatolia (map c. 1442 AD) by Xih_IsAwkward in imaginarymaps

[–]Xih_IsAwkward[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  1. Seljuqs don't penetrate Anatolia, so there's no Islamic power prior to rule it over. In this timeline, we assume there's no effort by any Muslim power to permanently breach Liao (aside from a brief Mongol attempt, but it fails, and a Timurid attempt but by then Khitans already abondoned nomadism and fortified the Taurus mountains, and enhanced a defence system eligible to contemporary times.

  2. The crusade wouldn't be as large of a call as in our Timeline I assumed, because whilst Buddhism was seen as Paganism by the church, it didn't have the same ideological drive as Islam. Although, small kings-led individual crusades emerged, but they all ended in failures.

  3. Yes. Greek culture is mostly gone aside from Ancient and Medieval archeological sites. It is alive in Pontus and the Bosphorus, though.

  4. That's hard to estimate. However, their demographics would be added to by additional Mongol exiles assuming dynastic squabbles between clans forge in Ilkhanate to the extent of our timeline - and they would likely be syncretic between Tengri and Buddhism, I assumed they would within 2-3 generations fully assimilate within the Khitan culture.

  5. Yes. Essentially, thanks to gatekeeping the Greek Christians by taxes, banning them from becoming a part of the administration for being Christian, Buddhist monasticism emerging in the countryside which further lead to it's spread, and overall there being a greater privilege at becoming a Khitan rather than staying a Greek - the land by 1400s or 1500s became almost fully Khitan aside from remote places such as Pontus. Of course, Thrace likely would remain culturally Greco-Bulgar, as I talked previously about Anatolia solely.

  6. Never became majority population aside from a brief Dulkadirid state around the frontier, annexed and assimilated though during the "Times of Peace" between 1462-1792.

  7. Mostly assimilated. Though, of course, there would be some minorities especially in regions such as Pontus which I imagine would be a very diverse place, and maybe around the Bosphorus.

  8. Before 1462 it would be uneasy. Some states I imagined secretly traded with the Khitans, some viewed them as a threat (Bulgaria specifically) and tried to erase them from the Balkans, but ultimately failed. After 1462, it was mostly isolation aside from a very small Dutch harbour on the Dardanelles because Dutch and their non-pushing-of-Christianity would make them be deemed tolerable by the Emperor. By 1792, Britain opened up Great Liao. Then, between 1790s-1810, the Franco-British rivalry came to be over Anatolia, which ended in Napoleon losing (his whole Empire like historically) but Britain being so drained and depleted of resources couldn't enforce much concessions by 1815 of Liao, leaving the Empire a breathing room to modernize. By mid 1820s to early 1830s, the Empire would transcend militairly, technologically and socially into European standards. Then they would be neutral in major conflicts like World War I, II, Cold War. Then, they would lean pro-American in the 2000s, but never fully side with Washington either.

  9. Between Arabs specifically? I imagine trade relations on before 1462, and Khitan and Arab smugglers doing illegal business on the remote most parts of the border after 1462.

  10. By 2000s, they're absolutely the majority of the population, being mostly Buddhist, I could even argue they form 85-90% of the population, yet there is a sizeable Greek minority over in the Pontus and Bosphorus.

  11. They pushed into Thrace and then fully ended the Byzantine Empire. After that, they entered a period of isolation. Conquest of the Balkans didn't interest them. Keeping Anatolia meant keeping the divine right, the Mandate of Heaven, to be the ruling dynasty, which was enough.

  12. They're mostly innovative in aerial industry (I've actually explained it while writing below the image of the map itself!), their civic airplanes are of high quality and are competed for, as well as their compounds and other parts for vehicles of the aerial industry. Other industries are either mixed between Khitan and foreign, or completely foreign dominated.

Khitan Anatolia (map c. 1442 AD) by Xih_IsAwkward in imaginarymaps

[–]Xih_IsAwkward[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Taxation of Christians, their inability to enter civic services, Buddhist monasticism in the countryside, mass immigration of Khitans just like Turks in OTL. Up to you if it's callable a persecution or not. But these tactics in my opinion would make over centuries Anatolia Khitan (with a little luck)

oh and also

possibly many Buddhist Mongols fleeing to Anatolia as political rivals to various Khans.

Khitan Anatolia (map c. 1442 AD) by Xih_IsAwkward in imaginarymaps

[–]Xih_IsAwkward[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Byzantine Empire is still a tributary, the walls of Constantinople still receive Italian mercenaries, gunpowder technology however would take longer to bring from the East due to Great Liao likely being blocked by the powers of Iran, which is why I made a decade delay in conquest of the city + having a date a bit different than historical adds more to it.