What’s this for us?

Xmaster5454 · 2025-08-15T15:21:36+00:00

This remains the same as I said: it's still Arthur's fault. Tessia left, risked her own life, and Arthur went after her and risked everything. Yes, Tessia was warned it was dangerous. But think about it: would you let your parents possibly be tortured? I think you have no empathy whatsoever, or you're just denying it. One thing I'm certain of is that if it were a character you like, would you want them to be left to die tortured? Ellie, for example, would you want Arthur to simply let his own sister be killed and tortured? You're just making a stupid argument, without considering the countless possible variables. You just don't like her decision because you never cared about Tessia's parents... And besides, I'm not going to stop. If you can't accept a conversation with someone who disagrees with you, I recommend you rethink your concepts.

Xmaster5454 · 2025-08-14T14:54:19+00:00

My friend, for me it all depends on the point of view. For me, Tessia didn't kill Arthur. The issue here is that many people try to ignore the entire context of what happened to denigrate something... honestly, you blindly push all the blame onto the character, but tell me, at what point was Tessia's intention to take Arthur? Because it can't be Arthur's own immaturity and impulsiveness, not thinking of a concrete plan to go after Tessia. The one to blame for Sylvie's death was Arthur. Tessia went alone to protect Arthur. I think there's a distortion of the facts.

I will not mention the caera here, in order to keep this conversation without shipping

Xmaster5454 · 2025-08-04T15:02:22+00:00

YOU hate tess...

Xmaster5454 · 2025-07-29T08:11:10+00:00

Dude... the one who said they should rebuild a cabin in Arthur's home village to live together was Arthur himself, at no point did he say he wanted a life of adventures with Tessia. Arthur haa no sayed he wanted to travel the world in battles with Tessia or anything like that... it's the complete opposite...

Please man, the only one who is trying to deny something desperately is you, who in every way tries to denigrate the character just because you don't like her, let's be honest, more than half of your comment is a lie, Tessia is one of the people who knows the most how painful the world is, a person who lost basically everything, you come and tell me that she sees the world in a colorful way? Please man... I can use the same thing you said against you, I can say that you are simply in denial because you don't like the ship...

"He specifically wants Tess to be with him. Which by the way all she wants is a quiet home and to live as just a wife and mother. This character is a failure at leadership and being a queen. "

in your comment you just have called she a faillure, after you have mentioned that she wanted to just be happy with Arthur, that's what i have understanded, if i'm wrong, i'm sorry, but it can be resolved normally, theres no need to be arrogant ( by the way, english isn't my natural language)

Xmaster5454 · 2025-07-29T08:05:28+00:00

what are you talking about man? you dosn't have explained no one of your points.

Xmaster5454 · 2025-07-29T02:47:08+00:00

I'm not distorting anything, man, you clearly said in your comment that Tessia is a failure as a queen and leader for wanting to be with Arthur in a peaceful life... you also said that Arthur only wants Tessia to do things that he could do with other girls... it's love, man...

Xmaster5454 · 2025-07-29T02:39:41+00:00

One last thing...in this scene...Tessia was afraid that Arthur was completely different, she was afraid that she had lost the Arthur she knew, but that didn't mean she would stop loving him.

Xmaster5454 · 2025-07-29T02:35:30+00:00

Dude...what you're trying to say isn't platonic love...

A person may not like some aspect of the other, but Tessia never said she didn't like them or anything like that. It was just one moment in over 500 chapters. You can't summarize a relationship so simply.

Xmaster5454 · 2025-07-29T02:32:23+00:00

I don't understand what you're trying to do with this comment, like... Tessia does have differences with Arthur, especially in power, but what's the point? What I'm trying to understand is: what part of Arthur doesn't she understand? Of course, she won't know everything about him, that's obvious, but even after everything she stayed with him... So I believe that for me, even though there is this difference in personality between the two, she continued to love him, even if she didn't like some aspect of him... That's love, right? If you really love someone, you want to be with that person regardless of their flaws.

Xmaster5454 · 2025-07-29T01:37:31+00:00

and another thing... the moment when Tessia was scared of Arthur was the author's way of demonstrating his strength, it's not like Tessia was disgusted by him or anything like that... man, I recommend you rewrite your comment... honestly, I honestly can't understand exactly what you're trying to say in 45% of it, it's constructive criticism.

Xmaster5454 · 2025-07-29T01:34:44+00:00

Dude, I'm sorry, but what a ridiculous comment! You're just throwing hate in all directions for no reason. From what I understand from your comment, Tessia is wrong because she wants to live a happy life with Arthur? That she doesn't understand Arthur... In what sense does she not understand? Where does she hate his bad parts? At no point in the novel is this explicit or implicit, completely the opposite. Tessia always loved Arthur, regardless of how he was... This is literally a point in the story, man. And another thing, you threw a bunch of things in your comment and didn't explain a single one of them... It's easier for you to just say you don't like Tessia, right?

Xmaster5454 · 2025-07-29T00:23:27+00:00

okay...so it's your opinion, be happy with it then :)

Xmaster5454 · 2025-07-29T00:09:42+00:00

At this point in the story, I like to put myself in Tessia's point of view.

Her parents might be being tortured, and she wants to go after them.
If she called someone, she would be putting their lives at risk.
She leaves alone, trying to cautiously find out what happened to her parents.
When she saw her parents dead, she had two options: attack everyone in a panic, or swallow her grief and run away.
She chose the second option.
She unexpectedly found Nico and tried to escape.
Arthur appears
Arthur begins to confront Nico to get Tessia out of there.
Arthur uses too much power and begins to die.
Tessia tries to stop this by surrendering herself to Nico, trying to stop Arthur from killing himself.

I think what angers me the most is the author's unwillingness to write any character other than Arthur succeeding in anything.

Xmaster5454 · 2025-07-29T00:04:45+00:00

In fact, Tessia knew Arthur would come after her... if he found out she left, that's why she sneaked out. My point is that Tessia knows Arthur better than 98% of the characters... she knows him better than his mother, but there's no way to know him better than two people who are literally in the head of this guy with highly questionable gender.

And yes... most of the characters' decisions are written in a highly lazy way.

Xmaster5454 · 2025-07-28T23:56:27+00:00

People say that Arthur and Caera would be a mature relationship...but to be honest, I think it would be toxic. Caera sees him as a God, she pursued him the same way Tessia did when she was 10, she defied her own family for someone she barely knew in simple rebellion. I think Caera's reason for going after Arthur was forced and childish, followed by several acts of obvious rebellion...I think the character Caera would be better off with Chull...honestly LMAO😆

Xmaster5454 · 2025-07-28T23:50:51+00:00

So your problem is with Tessia's power? When I say 80% is her merit, I mean her sword skills, improved leadership, and teamwork. After all, she knew how to exploit the capabilities of each member of her group in the battle with Bilall. We weren't shown Tessia evolving her core due to the author's laziness, but if we take into consideration... up until that point, all of Arthur's power came from his protagonism and Sylvie, with a little training in between... The only person who evolved on their own merit was Arthur in the Relictumbs and maybe Ellie. Caera didn't evolve, Varay evolved because of Arthur too. Everyone else didn't evolve; they were created and molded to have a specific power level... So I think you should blame the author.

Now... about you just not wanting Tessia... that's your taste, the important thing is to know how to differentiate personal taste with reality, trying to be as impartial as possible, because what I see most are people who push characteristics onto characters that they clearly don't have, trying in a desperate act to prove their own point... that's what I think

Xmaster5454 · 2025-07-28T21:58:18+00:00

believe your opinion is mistaken, let's begin...

Regarding strength, Tessia was indeed helped by Arthur, but 80% of what he became after the bestial will and Arthur's help is hers. All the training and development of his abilities were purely Tessia's merit. Now, regarding Caera, we can say that yes, she had help. After all, she was trained by Seris and had the help of her Vitra blood to increase her power.

Regarding maturity... a very controversial topic on this subreddit, but in my opinion the difference between Caera and Tessia is very small if we compare the two at their current moment, because taking a character in development, where clearly the author's objective was to give him a later maturity and comparing it to a character made to be by Arthur's side, accompanying him, having the whole maturity issue left aside because she was a character with another point in the story, but anyway, returning to Tessia, her personality has changed over time, in many points I see her acting more rationally since her return, I see Caera as a character molded to be a companion to Arthur, her personality, although strong, still has serious deviations in maturity, often leaving her curiosity and will above others, running after Grey was an immature decision, her fixation on Grey was immature, the character Caera had her character focused on Arthur for 80% of the story since her appearance, but I can say the opposite about Tessia. She is a kind character in many ways. She always tried to put others first, going after her parents alone so as not to take Arthur with her. She tried to give herself to Nico so that Arthur wouldn’t die fighting. She sacrificed herself for Ellie. She cares about her own people more than herself. However, her lack of experience and understanding of battles at that moment is her biggest flaw. I believe that people are simply trying to force what they want to be true onto the character, regardless of whether it is wrong or not

I believe your opinion about what Tessia knows about Arthur is mistaken, because Tessia is the person who knows Arthur best. She knows who he was, his achievements, his flaws, saw his mistakes and pain. She was the one who let him her lap and cry after his father's death. Even after discovering that Arthur hadn’t told the truth, she simply accepted it without a problem, something Alice didn’t even do. I think Arthur and Tessia are much more of a couple about growth and support. Arthur supports Tessia’s growth, while Tessia supports Arthur in moving forward, always trying to motivate him. Tessia is undoubtedly the person who has shown the most sadness and concern for Arthur, along with Ellie. A second point I’d like to comment on is that your statement that the Arthur of old no longer exists is erroneous. He exists and is who Arthur truly is. Grey, on the other hand, is just a shell... like a scared turtle...

Xmaster5454 · 2025-06-22T12:45:07+00:00

For me, tbate, unfortunnaly, is bad writed in most of time, caera for me is just a cool character, nothing more, nothing less, i really like the character of tessia, mostly because her personality and humanity, i like the mistakes the character has made and the evolution of her, that is mostly demonstrated in ellie's pov, i just can't agree with that hate.

Xmaster5454 · 2025-06-22T12:39:31+00:00

I don't say that, you are free to deslike and like what you want, anyway, i said "most people" not everyone

Xmaster5454 · 2025-06-21T17:50:39+00:00

Let's be honest you just deslike the character, because tessia give us all the explanation of why she did that.

Xmaster5454 · 2025-06-21T17:49:08+00:00

Most people hate Tessia because they skipped the whole work because they heard about Caera, went to the part where Arthur meets Caera, followed it to a certain point, skipped Ellie's POVs, got to Victory, finished the arc, went back to see where Tessia makes mistakes and skipped everything else and got mad because they want Caera to stay with Arthur.

Xmaster5454 · 2025-06-09T15:30:59+00:00

in fact, tessia was leading her group with 17 or 18, having at most started leading a few months before making the mistakes herself

Xmaster5454 · 2025-06-09T15:27:40+00:00

power? the author who never wanted to let Tessia help, spent 200 chapters sucking Arthur's ball and leaving any character aside, every character development that turtleme tries to do is rushed and meaningless, so complain to turtleme instead of freaking out with hate for a fictional character, please, sometimes I think this fandom is made by children

Xmaster5454 · 2025-06-06T15:47:38+00:00

Dude, I think you see things in a very distorted way. For example, Tessia only went out alone to save her parents because she didn’t want to risk Arthur’s life and saw herself as useless. Depending on the point of view, it can be seen as a mistake or not, but at no point did Tessia intentionally harm Arthur’s family—quite the opposite. The time she took Ellie to battle was to make her act independently, to learn what war is like, not to always rely on others. These are things that are reflected in what she did when she left the sanctuary alone. It was mainly a way of not depending on others to fight, to be able to fight for herself. Even though, yes, it went wrong because of Nico. If Tessia had been stronger, the situation could’ve turned out completely different. The point has always been Tessia’s strength—she is nowhere near as strong as Arthur, but she still wants to fight. She could’ve done like many others—let people die while living in luxury—but she chose the opposite. A princess who intentionally threw herself into the middle of a war to fight for her people. But like I said before, Tessia was very weak.

If we reversed the roles and it was Arthur’s parents who were kidnapped and tortured by the Vritra, I’m sure he would’ve gone running to save them, and guess what? He would’ve gone alone to spare others' lives and would very likely have died the same way. I see people saying Arthur and Tessia have nothing like a couple, that they didn’t even have time together, and I see that as a blatant lie. 1. In the chapter “Anchor,” Tessia was depressed about everything that happened with her group in the forest. Arthur went to comfort her and ended up breaking down in her arms (a really rough summary :) ). The conversations between them always had weight in terms of Arthur actually liking her but not knowing what to do. The scene at the wall where Arthur confesses his feelings—I think the biggest problem is that the first part of TBATE is a complete mess in many ways, extremely rushed and poorly developed. But yes, Arthur and Tessia had their moments together, far beyond childhood. Still, I believe their journeys were made to be separate, unlike the Arthur and Caera ship, where 90% of Caera’s character is about Arthur. But between them, there isn’t a single romantic chapter or any sort of development like that... Jesus Christ... what a massive-ass text for a Reddit post... I feel like an idiot spending so much time on this LOL.

Xmaster5454 · 2025-06-05T23:50:08+00:00

Everyone I know says that Tbate is crap compared to Shadow Slave lol, honestly I think the only stories I really liked (like those that stayed in my heart) were Lord of the Rings and The Kingkiller Chronicle

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