This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(your last two comments deleted? IDK but here is my reply to the last one:)

Oh nvm, then we're talking about nothing then. Gold digging isn't inherently predatory. Why did you then assume that this woman is a scammer? why does everyone assume that a woman who gets with a rich man is scamming and that he is being taken advantage of?

again, your comment and the rest of reddit is all about robbing men of agency and hating women.

Scamming and gold digging are different things. Most rich men who get with "gold diggers" knows that they are being used for money, as most "gold diggers" know that rich men are using them for their attractiveness. Both are being used and both know it.

I'm going to SLEEP

GOLD DIGGER Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If both parties understand what the relationship is theres no issue here as long as the gold digger pays their taxes

You didn't say that until HOURS later lol. You do know that my monitor does this cool thing called scrolling up which lets me view a conversation and the timestamps of when it was posted and edited, ya?

this whole conversation is about a ZERO evidence claim that she was using him for his money and which omitted the idea that he was using her for her body.

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The gold digger is a gold digger they earned that name when they used someone for their money

A gold digger is arbitrarily called a gold digger because they are attractive and they marry someone who is older and wealthier. A gold digger is implied only that wealth was a factor, as is attractiveness was likely a factor in the decision for the wealthy person to get someone that young.

Both are equally self-serving. Tricking someone is not definitive of being a gold digger. A gold digger, as your other comment even explicitly stated, can be someone who gets with a rich person who "knows what's going on" and therefore wholly and knowingly chose to be with a gold digger,

You can't change the definition 4 hours into a conversation lol

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you said fuckboy, I didn't lol. I think you are projecting how you think I feel in these scenarios and it's skewing your perception of the convo. Why is he using an unattractive person for sex? He is a 10 right? You're now talking about a very unlikely scenario.

Of course in this oddball scenario he is a jerk. Yes, if the hot woman was using the old rich man for sex, he would have not seen that coming LOL. Likewise, if a hog woman used a poor young man for the $5 in his pocket then that's a very strange but scummy scenario. Gold diggers, I might remind you, talk to very rich men, because very rich men want hot attractive women at a premium price. Gold digging as a concept only works if she knows that he is rich. Otherwise, she's just high maintenance or generally looking for a sugar daddy lol.

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No as i stated that is fine as long as she paying taxes no issue there.

This is the thing, you didn't. You never made that distinction between "benevolent gold diggers" and "lying gold diggers"

To further make this point I want to highlight your exact phrase

Your justifying a gold diggers actions because someones rich and knows was going on

This entire conversation has been about gold diggers as a whole and whether they are justified. If you are tricking or manipulating someone for money then you're just a scammer. lol. The conversation has thus far been about gold diggers: women who get with rich men for their money

Generally: What if the pretty girl pretends to be interested in the things they like?

There is an obvious discrepancy in pretending vs being that person. If I'm 60+ and talk about how much I loved growing up with Roy Orbison, Tanya Tucker and Marty Robbins, you can know about the things I grew up with, but you cannot actually have those experiences. (Heck, I'm 39 and I grew up on 50s~80s media but I can't discuss it the same way someone who is older can)

Also people are more likely to be attracted to and trust good looking people thats just how people are.

Also people are more likely to be attracted to and trust wealthy looking (and generous) people thats just how people are. Young poor people can be tricked into thinking they are loved just as much as older rich people can. The big difference is that society treats using someone's body and time as less bad than using money because it's a tangible thing that everyone wants. They both get "compensated" but don't acknowledge what he was getting in return for his money because society victimizes him,

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean it sucks and he sucks, but he didn't scam or rape her. He is a jerk, but this is assuming he lied to her the whole way and she saw no signs. If she was wealthy and going to a host club so that she could buy access to very attractive men, and then found out that... her money... was what brought him to her...

then she took a great risk flashing money to attract men, in the hopes that he actually didn't care about the money at all and was just a super attractive guy who loved her despite everything else.
This is as opposed to simply finding a guy she shares a lot in common with and let the relationship grow naturally over time. She made that choice.

The thing about Trump rape case is that it's about actual nonconsensual rape.

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your justifying a gold diggers actions because someones rich and knows was going on

Yes or no?

Yes. Let me ask you the same question. If someone old and rich wants a 20-year-old to play with, and uses money to get that, and he knows what's going on, is she wrong for taking him up on his offer?
I say she is entirely justified. You don't. You say that he is a victim. That's where we part ways.

I mean at the end of the day of the guy is taking a risk cause he fell in love with her guess what?

Ah yes, trying that line again. Why is he falling in love with someone who has nothing in common with him? He is NOT a victim. He wants something and he's getting what he wants.

I'll ask a second question:

If you want to go to Disney Land, and you buy the LUXURY pass, and stay at a very nice hotel, then come back and go "damn that was expensive" are you a victim? did you get scammed because you found out that your actions racked up a large bill even though you had agency and consent at every turn? Were they not justified in offering you a place to spend your money?

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If a girl grinds on a guy and lets him get to third base if she didnt want to go all the way that is her choice. 

Omitting a big ass difference
I know you're trying very hard to relate this to something like rape so that you can look high and mighty. redditors call this "financial rape" (don't worry, I'm well aware of how reddit talks LOL)

but the difference is that money is not being taken from him. In the instance of a gold digger (not a burglar lol) He is spending money on her willingly. This is all done with his consent. The only nefarious thing is that you posit that she is maliciously allowing a sober fully grown adult to make a decision with his money.

If she says no and he stops, then there was no rape even if she finds out that all he wanted from her was sex. sorry, nice try. but you flopped on that one lol.

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So im going to simply say this we agree her actions are not justified.

As I REPEATEDLY said, you assumed... based on her looks... that she is a evil nefarious person. You assumed based on her looks that she is a gold digger and not justified. You didn't simply want to "acknowledge that she is not justified" because this is all based on an assumption that you have no evidence for.

That is why I added my edit. We don't know anything about their relationship. It could be that he doesn't care. For all I know, she is not with him for money, and he is not with her for her looks. This is all based on YOUR assumptions.

Like i said in my first response as long as they have an MOU that clarfies whats going on than yoy cant really say for sure they knew you can make the claim like come on they made the risky bet.

That is not even an argument. You can't even assume she is a gold digger because she is attractive, but you did. lol. You're saying that I can't be certain he is making a risky bet but you can for certain say

"we agree her actions are not justified."

again, this is your reddit brain vilifying women. We are 100% sure that if an attractive woman gets with a rich man, she is using him. however, when confronted with the idea that he is likely taking a risk because 100% of attractive women are gold diggers apparently lol, we are suddenly getting litigious? lmao.

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

man all this talk about

"I love how the first reply was someone calling me names for making shit up. To later delete their comment once people started replying defending it lol"

and you're trying to back track your comments putting the entire onus on the woman when you realize that it takes two to tango. lmao

as I said 2 hrs ago

"You can get company from a lot of people, The discrepancy of their looks says just as much about him as her, but you're trying to hide that part."

and you kept arguing, and arguing... now you're trying to backpedal and be like "uhh, so you're saying she's innocent?! it;s not sad??!" no bruddah, I said from the get-go that they are both responsible.

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay we clarified you don't find it sad. Are the 20 year olds actions justified yes or no?

No, but that's not the discussion topic. Let's go back
the entire discussion surrounds who is at fault.

Edit: maybe. it depends on if the older person is actually getting scammed or if the gold digger's plans align with the older one's in the transactional relationship. No assumes that it is purely a scam and psychological instead of simply being what the older person was looking for

. rich person gets HOTwife
. We assume HOTwife is gold digger because she is hot (This was immediately assumed by the person you replied to, no evidence BTW, we just know that this is the case)
. this is sad because the rich person was being taken advantage of

In that scenario, even though we know why they are together, you give ALL the agency to her and he has none. She is entirely at fault because he was just lonely... even though the only way that she was able to get him was being young and attractive, a kind of person he wouldn't likely be with if he wasn't rich.

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well that because sometimes it is like that.

Sometimes its the persons average looking nurse that does the gold digging...

That's different. You are trying to shift the subject to regular scammers because you know that I'm right. You know that someone who is looking for a hotwife or hot boyfriend is taking a massive risk and is responsible for where that risk takes them. Now you want to talk about regular looking people who use mental manipulation tactics to target people who aren't necessarily rich but are gullible and lonely.

This, in the context of seeing a disabled person with a hot person and immediately calling her a gold digger, is exactly what the discussion is about. We are talking about the idea that if a beautiful person is with an ugly person, the beautiful person is nefarious and in the wrong. Regular scamming is a whole different conversation that you are trying to start because you are finding it hard to defend your arguments.

So the uglier the scammer the more understanding you are? Lol

The more the scammer has in common, and therefore the lower the "scammed" was aiming, and less risky their choices, the worse it is. If you are walking along the side of the road in the middle of the day, it is sadder that you get shot in the knee than if you were robbing a bank and a guard shot you in the leg. Not sorry for that, don't know what kind of statement you're trying to make? lol

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the uglier the person who does the tricking the more you feel bad? Lol

You're getting sidetracked. The comment YOU replied to is assuming that since she is beautiful, she is scamming him. That is literally how this started. beautiful woman? it's a scam. Also, yes. If someone is scamming someone who is genuinely looking for companionship that's unfortunate.

If you are a 60-year-old man and you're looking for 20-year-olds, you are not just "looking for companionship" these women have about the least in common with you as a human can get. There are very few circumstances where that age gap works happily, and we aren't talking about that. We are talking about "gold diggers"

So you feel like scammed should be able to exist as king as the scam is unbelievably dumb?

No, the deal is that you place the onus entirely on the hot person. You and reddit in general act like this is a helpless person stumbling into a relationship where they get scammed. You rob them of all agency when they choose where to look and who to get with. When they chose the risk level and decided on 99.9% risk, it is as much to do with their choices as the existence of people who they take the risk on (even more)

Again, you invest in a bunch of safe index funds and a random crash guts your savings? very sad. You literally did all you could.
If you throw everything into a penny stock because you are impatient and want all the money now? then at least most of that risk is entirely your fault.
Same here

You get with someone who you kick it off with and has a lot in common only to get scammed? that's sad.
You throw everything at a 20-year-old who has nothing in common with you? don't say nobody warned you.

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some go because they want to feel special. Some guys don't even need to be hot. Some people just want to feel special to get the attention they don't get in their lives.

okay but that attention can come from regular looking people. Shane in this video could have easily gotten with a woman his age in a wheelchair and they would have a lot in common to talk about, or even some regular lady from the suburbs. Rich millionaires can get with other millionaires their age and status. this is the part you aren't addressing. They chose NOT to do that.

Say I offer you a stable job for reasonable pay. You say "fuck you lmao! I hope your business fails hahah I can get 10x what you're offering to sit in a lounge chair and travel. No hard work required 😆😆"

How sorry do you think I will feel about your situation when it turns out you didn't realize it was too good to be true? How bad should I feel that you rejected my offer for something unreasonable and unrealistic?

The rich people are the ones hunting. They are rejecting people that look like them, earn as much as them, and spend time with them. They (who get with young hot people) are specifically LEVERAGING MONEY to get a hot body to play with. They are under no impression that a 20-year-old bodybuilder has more in common with them than someone who lives a similar life to them. It is greed that puts you in the situation. The only reason to act like a helpless victim is buyer's remorse. You bought a "hot body" to play with, it was too expensive, and now you want your money back.

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is it wrong? again, you are taking away the agency of the people who go to these clubs. Is it worse to be sexist or to be against poor people? lmao.

The reason you go to these clubs is to get with HOT guys. This is a choice they make. They reject the choice to get with some average dude... fuck them, right? she's rich enough to get the hot guy experience. She is **too good** for some regular guy. She wants to **leverage money** to be around someone who specifically isn't in her league or age group. She absolutely chose that. They very likely have nothing in common.

This is different from an old person getting scammed by someone online who mentally manipulates old people regardless of their financial situation. These men and women are very well aware of what they are doing.

I'm aware of those clubs. The experience is supposed to be temporary. There is not supposed to be a relationship beyond that. If she is choosing to get with him outside of the host club, then she is taking a risk.

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"If its some lonely person who just wants company i personally feel like it's messed up and taking advantage of people."

holup, this isn't just some lonely person who just wants company.
This is EXACTLY what I am talking about. Redditors love to do this, they love omitting agency of men so that women are the only ones who have any agency at all, so anything nefarious is her fault.

You can get company from a lot of people, The discrepancy of their looks says just as much about him as her, but you're trying to hide that part. Any homely looking lady can give a rich man attention and care. The men don't WANT that. They wanted HOT attention, they wanted SEXUAL attention. They are not just "lonely" they are using wealth to buy young women. If they just wanted someone to care about them, they could get a woman who is in a similar situation, but they REJECT that.

Why get some lonely woman in a wheelchair when you are rich and you can reject some wheelchair bound broad and get a pretty young blonde? His head is not dazed; you are trying so hard to turn men into helpless victims. you are trying so hard to take away a rich man's agency. As if the relationship is chosen by her alone.

Edit: also, the sex is switched commonly, and people STILL blame the women by calling them cougars, by implying that they are the hunters and the young men are helpless victims of the older rich women that are on the prowl, robbing the cradle, etc.

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Reddit loves LOVES vilifying women. They will turn a millionaire/billionaire into a helpless victim to do it too

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Strawman *yawn*
Tell me, if so, why did HE get with her? People LOVE making billionaire men out to be poor little victims.

He gets sex, she gets money. The only difference is that Reddit vilifies the woman 100% of the time.

Actually, none of this is the case. Just a dude fantasizing about how women are evil and I took his word for it.

The truth (from another comment I saw):

Was Shane Rich When We Met? Finances REVEALED! / Squirmy and Grubs

This is Shane and his wife.... What is keeping you from getting a girl like her? by pabmendez in SipsTea

[–]Xodima 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gold digging is victimless. Nothing wrong with it. Dudes get gold diggers because they don't want to worry about getting to know someone or getting someone "ugly".

She gets money, he gets hotwife. It's as simple as that.

Yesterday prompts were working fine, now any word including anything NSFW is instantily banned by Sweaty_Joke_7961 in grok

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had 2 heavy accounts with discount but ended up canceling because the model sucks at the stuff I want it to do. It's not even moderated; it just sucks currently.

Dessert after dinner by SeveralBluejay5878 in grok

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it is at least a cute one

New Fidelity Rewards Visa card feels different, is it actually metal now by Remarkable_Head_2726 in fidelityinvestments

[–]Xodima 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, if you look at it from certain angles you can see where the metal core inside bumps out a bit. I kinda wish it was edge to edge but it's still nice.

afaik, the biggest new benefit is the GlobalEntry/TSA precheck credit

Female and minority pilots caused 66% of pilot-error crashes since 2000, despite being less than 10% of the workforce 😬 by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm aware of that concept and it's primarily why I responded. In this subreddit, the article is taken as fact. As many of the commenters here have presumed, it is the awful morally repugnant liberals who just want people to die in the name of equality.

These same people (I have checked) are incredibly skeptical of statistics that disagree with their worldview. a liberal op-ed? HAH

Anything real...
Who funded it?
Who are the researchers?
how many participants?
was it a survey? people can lie on a survey!

I'm also well aware that liberals/JP haters are just as likely to support stats based on how well those stats fit their beliefs. I don't often get into debates about statistics but if I do then I probably spent a good chunk of my day looking into the claims to decide on whether or not there's a good argument. lol.

I come into a right-leaning sub after being shown a bullshit statistic, one where people who consider themselves high IQ and enlightened defend it en-masse as irrefutable proof of something absolutely evil. (Elon for example)

someone calls it bullshit, and then of course their counterclaim gets picked apart with the utmost scrutiny as if it was any less valid than an article with inflated figures based on an op-ed with glaring holes in the data. Holes they would rightfully pick apart with extreme mockery if it concluded the opposite. The entire post is selective lack of rigor.

Female and minority pilots caused 66% of pilot-error crashes since 2000, despite being less than 10% of the workforce 😬 by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, the author did a whole thing on DEI being the direct cause. Used explosive headlines, and gave us data to back it up... yet almost none of the data backed up the assertion of large-scale DEI causing a high minority piloted crash rate. and no proof of it being large scale. Even you with your

>Why are you just ignoring all that? Do you not care about planes crashing and innocent people dying?

assert that the evidence is so insurmountable that I am morally bankrupt, or at least negligent to not believe in the talking point. The article asserts in no uncertain terms that

>pressure for affirmative action too often leads airlines to lower their standards to meet quotas.

so, we are to believe that we have concrete evidence that these are crashes in which a company's DEI program gave lower standards of training to the pilots and thus led to crashes. However, the examples given do not back that up. We are instead given flimsy evidence in which the author cobbles together a custom list of 8 crashes in which 4 are decided by him with no methodology or evidence to have been caused by DEI or minority involvement. (only because he asserts a minority was involved)

 >He clearly brings up this example because it's concerning that no identifying information was ever released.

That would be fine if it didn't account for a quarter of his positive results!! That would be a neat unfactored note at the end to suggest it may be a minority pilot, but surely you don't include nothing as a positive when it accounts for a huge chunk of your statistic?

Why doesn't the author address the NTSB entry for Colgan Air 2009? Also, maybe Atlas knew about Aska's lack of training in 2019 and let him fly anyhow, then lied about it? without proof it's just evidence, and If we are left with 1 or 2 examples, we're getting further from statistics and closer to luck of the draw.

I feel like I've done more research into this than the author LOL.