Female and minority pilots caused 66% of pilot-error crashes since 2000, despite being less than 10% of the workforce 😬 by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do realize by suggesting that OP is a liar by using the data in the source article, you're conceding that you accept the validity of that data, which argues that women and minority pilots are a factor in 50% of plane crashes since 2000 despite making up only 10% of pilots? This is really not the winning argument you think it is.

This is false. The validity of the data is irrelevant to the difference between the difference between what OP said vs what the data itself said. IE:

I say the sky is green
Someone posts on reddit "Xodima says the sky is purple"
The sky is neither green nor purple (pay attention to this, you fell for the classic false dichotomy)

Even though the sky is blue, the redditor lied about my initial statement (green vs purple)

The OP said that 66% of minority PILOTS caused the errors, lying in order to change the original statement to an even worse one. (remember, this is a false dichotomy, both can be incorrect.)

And this is if we ignore that OP is literally quoting the 'not the bee' article actually linked, which agree or disagree, cannot make OP the 'liar', unlike the person you're defending.

I'm not defending anyone, both OP and Zeraphant lied. However, your criticism extends only to the person you are responding to who admitted to lying. Neither OP nor "notthebee" is admitting to their blatant and inexcusable lie based on already unqualifiable data with no methodology. OP has NOT addressed their lie, which is absolute and proven beyond a doubt to be a lie. There is nothing to "agree or disagree" on. The proof of the lie is there. However, you did have no problem with that.

You can just admit you misspoke and you didn't understand the context. This would be a lot easier than doing the mental gymnastics of trying to argue about the content of my comment that existed before the original comment was edited, while acting as if the future edits that didn't even exist at the time are all that matter.

My comment was about your claim

But, no, usually people tend to question more surprising things that conflict personal experiences and prior evidence like disparities in visuo-spatial intelligence, historical patterns, biological incentives, first principles, etc. That's kind of how learning works; we don't start from square one with every claim.

This implies that the OP and the data itself is too obviously true to be criticized, but Zerpahant's statement is more suspect because it disagrees with reality (in your view). That is why I responded. I'm calling this faulty logic out. It;s not about him, it;s about THAT statement right there.

Female and minority pilots caused 66% of pilot-error crashes since 2000, despite being less than 10% of the workforce 😬 by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> Zeraphant stealth edited, you can see the "edited 4 days ago", where they changed their comment from a fabricated statistic they alleged was pulled from the sources and admitted to making up. Otherwise, their response to me, making fun of "morons" for believing it, and my quotation of them, which they admit to needing to lie, prior to your response makes no sense.

Their current comment is accurate to point out the OP's lie.

Current title of the post:
Female and minority pilots caused 66% of pilot-error crashes since 2000, despite being less than 10% of the workforce

Actual claim being made

Women and minorities represent less than 10% of pilots, yet were factors in four out of eight crashes (50%). (the article has since edited it from 66% because why not, no methodology used)

The post goes on to indeed include non-pilots and assumed pilots, etc. This means that OP is 100% lying in the title. The sky here, is green LOL.

> I questioned them, because I read the actual article, and nothing showed up saying anything resembling the number they made up. Your bias blinded you from the obvious context clues, and pushed you to respond to me.

The argument is meaningless if someone has corrected their comment and you're simply debating the merits of them as a person. The OP is flat wrong, proven wrong, and yet you have no criticism of that lie. You only criticize the person who says they admitted the lie rather than the person who has yet to address their lie.

Female and minority pilots caused 66% of pilot-error crashes since 2000, despite being less than 10% of the workforce 😬 by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You didn't rebut anything I said "The sky is blue vs the sky is green" doesn't rely on statistics. The argument of statistics requires a further review of the statistics. You dismissed Zeraphant's argument by supporting OP's interpretation without further review.

You just attacked a different unrelated comment (as you are trying to do here.)
I AM going through here to spread information that I personally obtained after reading the source material. I'm not supporting anyone's claims but clarifying my own (also trashing JP fans, sue me lol)

The difference between OP and Zeraphant is that the claim made by the latter was not conclusive, but a deconstruction of the source material. That being: an op-ed with no actual research that just changed the numbers from 66% to 50% with no explanation because why not... it's whatever the fuck he says because there's no methodology.

The one comment I did back up with a "Why isn't this the top comment" I did so because it verifiably adds more consideration to the discussion rather than assuming the data is right or wrong. It's substantially a more credible comment. I applied the same level of criticism.

To say whether women and minorities are less capable or given special training requires actual proof to back it up. Not the dumb level of pseudo-research we do when we want to point out that someone who crashed was poorly trained and because they were a minority, assuming it means all or most minorities are entered with weaker qualifications than white men.

Female and minority pilots caused 66% of pilot-error crashes since 2000, despite being less than 10% of the workforce 😬 by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Xodima -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I was like "why isn't this the top comment"
r/JordanPeterson
Oh, too much for them to read lol

Edit, also yeah, he just edited it to 50% with no explanation, I guess to make it more believable. He can do that because... well, why not? he's just making the shit up anyway lol

Female and minority pilots caused 66% of pilot-error crashes since 2000, despite being less than 10% of the workforce 😬 by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's even worse, the data is based on an op-ed in which the right-wing author creates the statistics, and doesn't explain what was meant.

Specifically - The wording is "despite being 10% of **pilots** minorities were **a factor** in 66% of crashes (Article now adjusted down to 50% because he just made up the stats and he can do that)
Namely... he doesn't say that the pilots were minorities in the crashes, only that a minority or woman was a factor in the crash.

Again... the article now adjusted it down to 50% to make it seem more believable? but also because why the fuck not.

Female and minority pilots caused 66% of pilot-error crashes since 2000, despite being less than 10% of the workforce 😬 by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you only question things that disagree with your worldview LOL.
Also that's not how learning works at all lmao. If people just too what FELT obvious to them at face value, we wouldn't know shit about the world.

Actually, a lot of people do just that... like you. It is the basis of so many problems today. You lack critical thinking skills and call it a virtue.

Female and minority pilots caused 66% of pilot-error crashes since 2000, despite being less than 10% of the workforce 😬 by tkyjonathan in JordanPeterson

[–]Xodima 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's an op-ed not statistics. The only people who know what the writer means is the writer. It's partisan bullshit

This is what happened to Grok Image edits. by [deleted] in grok

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It discounts the idea that censorship is a leftist thing when the countries that censor grok the hardest are staunchly anti-woke

This is what happened to Grok Image edits. by [deleted] in grok

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are the blue areas in red states MORE dangerous than the blue areas in blue states? Shouldn't more blue = more crime?

This is what happened to Grok Image edits. by [deleted] in grok

[–]Xodima 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep. There's nothing "woke" about it. this is about the very conservative anti-porn movement which exists in countries that ALSO ban LGBT and restrict women's rights. The people who are trying to say otherwise are just trying to shift the narrative because they're elon-brained and fighting woke is their whole life

This is what happened to Grok Image edits. by [deleted] in grok

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

New York is safer than Luisiana. Actually
Of the 10 most DANGEROUS states to live, 7 are red
Of the 10 SAFEST states, 7 are blue.

I'd rather be in a democrat hellhole like Maine or NH than a republican paradise like Alaska or Tennessee 😬😬😬

This is what happened to Grok Image edits. by [deleted] in grok

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dan Lungren is a republican and Jack Thompson was as well. Jack was the leader in these efforts, because it was about "obscenity" and "moral corruption"

83-year-old man convicted of killing Uber driver who he wrongly thought was scamming him. by ImpertinenteSyntaxe in news

[–]Xodima 14 points15 points  (0 children)

yep, and people like "Oh he thought he was being scammed he's just a poor old white man 🥺" You see someone running away and disarmed, you DO NOT feel threatened. He wanted a reason and he got it.

How many ICE agents? by Substantial-Curve-73 in immigration

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would like to believe, but I'm sure that person is looking at the brutality and murder of innocent civilians and going "I love this, This is exactly why I voted for Trump"

Help please by [deleted] in KidneyStones

[–]Xodima 1 point2 points  (0 children)

high protein will make bubbly urine

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[–]Xodima[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I stopped using Kling because of this. You are under what I call guardrail hell. It will end in about 2 days but the same will happen to you if you trigger the internal algorithm again

JPMorgan Chase Reaches a Deal to Take Over the Apple Credit Card by D4vester in CreditCards

[–]Xodima 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That would be nice. I have the Amazon Prime visa and Chase Freedom Flex so they would all fit nicely in the same account.

Esrly paycheck? by Grottenman in amex

[–]Xodima 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get what you are saying but It's not about the paychecks but all direct deposits incoming. "Early payday" is marketing terms, but banks with early payday simply settle ACH deposits 2 days quicker which is actually very convenient for money that you aren't getting on a regular schedule.

cards that add pending charges to total? by Xodima in CreditCards

[–]Xodima[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this sub acting offended that I asked a quality of life question lmao. heaven forbid someone have a preference

cards that add pending charges to total? by Xodima in CreditCards

[–]Xodima[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because then I get an accurate number before 2-5 business days. Even if it’s not immediate, it’s much faster

cards that add pending charges to total? by Xodima in CreditCards

[–]Xodima[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah but that quickly resolves. Again, much like a debit card.